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Maybe the cause of the different effects between people are due to enzymes. Maybe some people are very efficient at breaking the chemical down and don't get much as a result. Maybe others are a bit slower to break this particular substance down and can enjoy having it be in their system at the right levels to achieve some sort of positive effect.
This is my personal suspicion on the matter. I'm extremely sensitive to phenidates (and god do I love them) and people who tried MDPM, who also could detect nothing from 4F-MPH/MPH, could detect nothing from MDPM. I however, being sensitive to phenidates, was sensitive to MDPM, and I suspect there may be a degree of overlap there as far as how they're being metabolized, but I'm not sure. I used to think these people were just NDRI resistant, but they all love NEP which kind of threw the whole NDRI-resistance idea out of the window.
Speaking of which, ever combo Soma with 5-MeO-DIPT and if so how was it? How's the Foxy ben treating you in general
I have combined soma and foxy, after finding soma and LSD seemed to potentiate one another (though Shinji Ikari tested it and he felt more of a synergy than potentiation, if that makes sense), I combined carisoprodol with virtually every psychedelic in my possession. 5-MeO-DiPT with DXM was a bit scary, three days of being so wide awake I couldn't even make my eyes look just normally open instead of painfully wide open. Once I was a day or so in, I realized I'd accidentally MAOI potentiated DXM, which is unwise. When I combined soma with 5-MeO-DiPT, I was specifically vaporizing the foxy and taking 250mg intervals of soma, all of which built slowly. This combination was absolutely wonderful. I want to mention though, I do NOT know if it is safe. Foxy on its own can be this incredibly stimulating, energetic, empathogenic psychedelic that kind of feels like a "feral" take on LSD. When in combination with soma, it felt more like an empathogenic psychedelic that left me comfortably energized without being incredibly stimulated. It reminded me a LOT of mixing MDMA, 2C-B and carisoprodol like I did to celebrate getting engaged a while back. That night we'd also taken some 7-OH, bupropion, caffeine and cannabis of course, but those aren't super rare for us on the daily. Overall, I'd highly recommend the combination.

Foxy has been treating me incredibly well in general. Before using it, I read a ton of accounts of horrible body load and nausea and comedowns, but I've yet to experience any of those, even when being somewhat reckless in dosing and mixing RoAs (vaping, insufflating, and eating it all in the same night for example). I had a box mod loaded up with it at one point, that shit was wonderful. It's kind of shocking how little tolerance builds if you redose while still tripping too, and it seems to fully reset within maybe 4 or 5 days which is interesting. Combining 5-MeO-DiPT with other psychedelics is neat, and honestly, having 5-MeO-DiPT and 2C-B, I feel like I still have two empathogens on hand, despite the fact that they're also psychedelic to some degree. I mean, MDA is like that too in many ways. 5-MeO-DiPT can induce manic hypersexuality, sometimes it makes me want to try to relearn sideflips/frontflips which would be reckless given my current health, but it's definitely had me considering the possibility. It's also extremely anorectic, moreso than methamphetamine or NEP but less than bupropion/DOB in my opinion. If you have any other questions about it feel free to ask!
Have an appointment on Tuesday, gonna try to switch to Buproprion and take Mirtazapine as needed and up my Gabapentin
I need to go get a gabapentin script in the first place man, this nerve pain is getting to be a bit much. I'm excited to hear about how your swap from mirtazapine to bupropion goes!
This was back in the day when I was bumming and not working so I wasn't able to buy large amounts regularly. But I'd always use birthday and christmas cash as well as raise funds throughput the year to try and make purchases. Things were crazy cheap. High quality 3-MeO-PCP and MXE for $15/g and $20/g respectively. $10/g of A-PHP. $25/g 2CE. The good ole days. didn't know hoe good we had it. Now if I can get a gram of a RC arylcyclohexylamine for less than $180 then I'm stoked. They've been getting more and more expensive and I'm always afraid of missing the boat. I'm very excited to try this, especially after rerading Nervewings report. Probably spent a good few hours the other day reading their blog.

I actually made a very rough ranking of my favorite arylcyclohexylamines the other day and it goes as follows:
The ranking is very interesting to see, thank you for that! How would you classify 3-Cl-PCP, MXPr and DMXE relative to things like (and I'm just listing what I'm familiar with here) ketamine, 2F-DCK, DCK, 3-HO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCP, or CanKet (2-FXE)?

I suspect that the super low cost of things that are difficult to produce like 2C-E might come down to the fact that it was being produced on a huge scale in big pharma certified labs in China. That was truly a golden age, but I'd love to see a clandestine scene in the future arise around these chemicals. Tragically, it would maybe pentuple prices at the lowest, I've recently been talking with another chemist and we were both figuring out what prices things like A-PVP, 3-MeO-PCP, 3-HO-PCP, 2C-B, 2C-C, and 2C-E could move at to not be a complete loss if clandestinely produced. The cheapest one there per dose would probably be 3-HO-PCP just because it's SO potent by weight, but none of them turned out to be anywhere below 5-6x the prices back in the "golden age" of RCs. In addition to that, what date exactly is the phrase "back in the day" referring to? $10 in 2000 is worth ~$17 now, or ~$14 in 2010, so we've almost doubled costs since 2000 without income adjusting at all, here in the US.
 
This is my personal suspicion on the matter. I'm extremely sensitive to phenidates (and god do I love them) and people who tried MDPM, who also could detect nothing from 4F-MPH/MPH, could detect nothing from MDPM. I however, being sensitive to phenidates, was sensitive to MDPM, and I suspect there may be a degree of overlap there as far as how they're being metabolized, but I'm not sure. I used to think these people were just NDRI resistant, but they all love NEP which kind of threw the whole NDRI-resistance idea out of the window.
I don't think that I'm particularly resistant to NDRIs. Buproprion is effective as an antidepressant for me. Ethylphenidate was amazing and I had bouts of severe APVP/APHP/MDPHP addiction. NEP was very active for me and I enjoyed it though I found the effects kind of strange. 4F-MPH provides me the effects that one would expect at any given dosage. Maybe I was blind to the subtleties of 3-MDPM and was too focused on trying to find the stronger stimulant effects of 3-FPM. All I know is that with an oral dose I felt slightly stimulated and had zero to urge to get anything done. Snorted I felt the initial tingles of a stimulant experience but it never built past that and died quickly afterwards. The vendor that I had gotten it from I had only ever gotten quality batches from, outside of one batch of 3-HO-PCP years ago that was the worst thing I ever put in my body. That batch felt like literal poison.

I have combined soma and foxy, after finding soma and LSD seemed to potentiate one another (though Shinji Ikari tested it and he felt more of a synergy than potentiation, if that makes sense), I combined carisoprodol with virtually every psychedelic in my possession. 5-MeO-DiPT with DXM was a bit scary, three days of being so wide awake I couldn't even make my eyes look just normally open instead of painfully wide open. Once I was a day or so in, I realized I'd accidentally MAOI potentiated DXM, which is unwise. When I combined soma with 5-MeO-DiPT, I was specifically vaporizing the foxy and taking 250mg intervals of soma, all of which built slowly. This combination was absolutely wonderful. I want to mention though, I do NOT know if it is safe. Foxy on its own can be this incredibly stimulating, energetic, empathogenic psychedelic that kind of feels like a "feral" take on LSD. When in combination with soma, it felt more like an empathogenic psychedelic that left me comfortably energized without being incredibly stimulated. It reminded me a LOT of mixing MDMA, 2C-B and carisoprodol like I did to celebrate getting engaged a while back. That night we'd also taken some 7-OH, bupropion, caffeine and cannabis of course, but those aren't super rare for us on the daily. Overall, I'd highly recommend the combination.
The synergy vs potentiation makes sense. So far I have only tried it with Allylescaline and felt neither potentiation nor synergy. It wasn't bad but I did feel a dulling of the psychedelic headspace similar to one would combining benzos, but not nearly as strong as a benzo would. I can see it being great with something more tactile like foxy or moxy.
I've heard the comparison of Foxy to LSD a lot and I REALLY like the sounds of a "feral" sort of LSD experience. I think I know exactly what you mean and I can't wait to try it. Maybe some time this summer. I definitely wont mix it with DXM. Have you mixed Foxy with any other dissociatives. I always add dissociatives to my psychedelic experiences if I have any on hand.
Foxy has been treating me incredibly well in general. Before using it, I read a ton of accounts of horrible body load and nausea and comedowns, but I've yet to experience any of those, even when being somewhat reckless in dosing and mixing RoAs (vaping, insufflating, and eating it all in the same night for example). I had a box mod loaded up with it at one point, that shit was wonderful. It's kind of shocking how little tolerance builds if you redose while still tripping too, and it seems to fully reset within maybe 4 or 5 days which is interesting. Combining 5-MeO-DiPT with other psychedelics is neat, and honestly, having 5-MeO-DiPT and 2C-B, I feel like I still have two empathogens on hand, despite the fact that they're also psychedelic to some degree. I mean, MDA is like that too in many ways. 5-MeO-DiPT can induce manic hypersexuality, sometimes it makes me want to try to relearn sideflips/frontflips which would be reckless given my current health, but it's definitely had me considering the possibility. It's also extremely anorectic, moreso than methamphetamine or NEP but less than bupropion/DOB in my opinion. If you have any other questions about it feel free to ask!
I'm surprised to hear that you find buproprion to be more anorectic than methamphetamine or NEP. Methamphetamine I can easily go a couple of days without hardly thinking of food. Wellbutrin has never given me grief in that regard. It can be a little harder to eat after starting a regimen but eating becomes normal again. In terms of body load I had a similar experience with 2CT2. I had read countless reports of a nightmarish body load but to this day 2CT2 had the most intensely pleasant body feel of any psychoactive that I have ever done. I had the same pleasant body feel at every dose that I tried. Felt better than MDMA/MDA, 2CB, Opioids, 5-MeO-MIPT. Regardless of the psychedelic I find that body load is heavily influenced and even determined by the headspace going into the experience. I used to always get unpleasant body load one way or the other when tripping, but ever since I've been mindful of working myself into a pleasant headspace before consumption its basically been a non issue. I eat healthy before a trip, try to meditate, go on long walks, ruminate on what I want to get out of the experience, etc. I'm also okay with the hypersexuality. Being on Suboxone I have basically no sex drive. The only time that I do is on dissociatives, stimulants or psychedelics, so I try to enjoy it while I can.

5-MeO-Mipt might be one of my favorite tryptamines and one that I have some of the most experience with. I have always wanted to try Foxy and have always had a feeling that I would like it. When a substance is calling out to me and I have a strong feeling that it will mesh well with me during my studies of it, I'm basically almost always right.
I need to go get a gabapentin script in the first place man, this nerve pain is getting to be a bit much. I'm excited to hear about how your swap from mirtazapine to bupropion goes!
I say that its worth a shot! Gabapentin is insanely easy to get. I've only ever been prescribed it off-label for anxiety and have never been denied it. If you have actual nerve pain then I think the doctor would be more than willing.

The ranking is very interesting to see, thank you for that! How would you classify 3-Cl-PCP, MXPr and DMXE relative to things like (and I'm just listing what I'm familiar with here) ketamine, 2F-DCK, DCK, 3-HO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCP, or CanKet (2-FXE)?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean like that. I can say that 3-CL-PCP, MXPr and DMXE are all unlike anyother dissociatives that I have tried (although MXPr and DMXE bear some resemblance to each other).

3-Cl-PCP might be the most interesting dissociative that I have ever tried. I REALLY miss it. Long duration, up to 16 hours off of a single dose and possibly longer off of a large dose. It also comes in different stages. The initial stage is as it kicks in, its a pleasant mood, empathogenic and with a light/moderate mania. You want to get stuff done, talk to people etc. That portion lasts a while (maybe about an hour) and then it builds into the dissociative stage. This stage is more mentally dissociating. I've never experienced a hole or difficulty walking and the headspace is still very empathogenic. My all time favorite thing to do on this drug is play a long session of Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I'm talking complete immersion into the game and strong empathogenic qualities. I feel very connected to the NPCs and there hwere multiple times where I cried and had to grieve the loss of beloved NPCs. It is also a VERY VERY sexual dissociative. Rivaling amphetamines. Probably the only dissociatived that I have edged on for 12 hours. The only downside is that it doesnt feel 100 % safe. There are physical effects such as overheating and just a general strange feeling. There were points after reaching around 140mg total where I was glad that I didnt go over. Still, overall it's great stuff and insanely worthwhile and I would love to have a life time supply. Oh yeah, I also did take a dose before seeing my therapist to see if there is utility there and there definitely is. I can see this substance being a valuable tool in psychotherapy.

MXPr is neat. The first couple of times it was very euphoric and I felt like a marshmallow. Not too much in terms of valuable introspection. Just very fun and I also feel like a computer. It alters vision in a very neat way (almost like a computer screen) and it's great for playing video games.

DMXE is another favorite of mine, It's basically like having a great day in pill or powder form. It's lightly manic and not dissociating even in higher doses. I have never holed and never felt close to a whole. It may be one of the best sex drugs that I have ever done. It led to great creativity in the bedroom. Music sounds fantastic on it and is a fantastic base to a combo with psychedelics. The headspace of this one is slightly psychedelic in its own so the transition from the DMXE headspace to psychedelia is seamless when one combines a psychedelic with it. It's one of my favorites purely due to the fact of the great mood that it puts me in 100 % of the time. As an acute treatment for depression its very effective.

Over all I feel that 3-Cl-PCP, MXPr and DMXE bear little to no resemblance to the others outside of the fact that theyre dissociatives. I can see MXPr bearing some resemblance to 3-MeO-PCE in terms of the visuals being similar. DMXE also has some similarities to 3-MeO-PCE in terms of headspace (though its a rough comparison). 3-Cl-PCP feels like if methamphetamine, MDMA and 3-MeO-PCP had a baby.
 
I don't think that I'm particularly resistant to NDRIs. Buproprion is effective as an antidepressant for me. Ethylphenidate was amazing and I had bouts of severe APVP/APHP/MDPHP addiction. NEP was very active for me and I enjoyed it though I found the effects kind of strange. 4F-MPH provides me the effects that one would expect at any given dosage. Maybe I was blind to the subtleties of 3-MDPM and was too focused on trying to find the stronger stimulant effects of 3-FPM. All I know is that with an oral dose I felt slightly stimulated and had zero to urge to get anything done. Snorted I felt the initial tingles of a stimulant experience but it never built past that and died quickly afterwards. The vendor that I had gotten it from I had only ever gotten quality batches from, outside of one batch of 3-HO-PCP years ago that was the worst thing I ever put in my body. That batch felt like literal poison.
3-HO-PCP arguablly is poison, it's killed a lot more than other PCP analogs and it's also hyperpotent. It feels incredibly detrimental to physical wellbeing too, relative to 3-MeO-PCP or any other arylcyclohexylamines I've ever touched. I suspect that MDPM is substituted at the wrong position, I think MDPM accidentally modeled the phenethylamine structure-activity relation of ortho-MDA, a stimulant without empathogenic effects that Shulgin characterized in PiHKAL.
I'm surprised to hear that you find buproprion to be more anorectic than methamphetamine or NEP.
Yeah, I'm shocked it's worse than methamphetamine in this regard, I often facetiously refer to bupropion as "RitaMeth" because it feels like ir Ritalin had all the downsides of methamphetamine. Grinding my teeth, constantly feeling ready to beat someone to death if they just look at me wrong, if I take bupropion for long enough that it builds up in my system I sleep 1/3-1/4 nights and I unironically cannot feel feelings. Happiness, sadness, nothing but pure, unadulterated, homicidal rage. What sucks too is that bupropion in the right dose range is the only antidepressant that works for me, 2C-B microdosing helps a lot too though so I take bupropion spottily and substitute in with other things here and there.
In terms of body load I had a similar experience with 2CT2. I had read countless reports of a nightmarish body load but to this day 2CT2 had the most intensely pleasant body feel of any psychoactive that I have ever done.
2C-T-2 is something I've yet to get my hands on, but is sure does sound beautiful! All of the 2C-t/ALEPH-[1/2/4/7/21] compounds I want to eventually get around to.
I say that its worth a shot! Gabapentin is insanely easy to get. I've only ever been prescribed it off-label for anxiety and have never been denied it. If you have actual nerve pain then I think the doctor would be more than willing.
I've had 15 abdominal surgeries (a couple dental ones on top of that), I'm definitely the kind of patient that can get anything prescribed just due to my chronically poor health. I just need to get off my lazy ass and get to making the appointment, frankly hahaha.
Over all I feel that 3-Cl-PCP, MXPr and DMXE bear little to no resemblance to the others outside of the fact that theyre dissociatives. I can see MXPr bearing some resemblance to 3-MeO-PCE in terms of the visuals being similar. DMXE also has some similarities to 3-MeO-PCE in terms of headspace (though its a rough comparison). 3-Cl-PCP feels like if methamphetamine, MDMA and 3-MeO-PCP had a baby.
Your in-depth descriptions here are immensely appreciated, thank you!!!
 
3-HO-PCP arguablly is poison, it's killed a lot more than other PCP analogs and it's also hyperpotent. It feels incredibly detrimental to physical wellbeing too, relative to 3-MeO-PCP or any other arylcyclohexylamines I've ever touched. I suspect that MDPM is substituted at the wrong position, I think MDPM accidentally modeled the phenethylamine structure-activity relation of ortho-MDA, a stimulant without empathogenic effects that Shulgin characterized in PiHKAL.
I sorta agree on 3-HO-PCP. Its at least caused more black outs and hospitalizations for me than any other disso. Even had cops break my ankle while trying to restrain me. I'm not sure I ever felt physically poisoned by it until this particular batch. Instead of the usual grey/off-white powder, this was a brown crystal. Consumption led to dissociation, as well as dysphoria every time and generalized physical pain, including in the organs. I dont know if cyanide is a possible byproduct of synthesis but thats what this felt like. It takes a lot for me to throw a way a drug but this one I tossed after 2 attempts. I gave some to a friend (before I discovered it was poison. He also tossed it immediatiely after trying it. By far the most harmful batch of any RC that I have tried.

I don't know enough about chemistry and structure-activity relationships to speak on that but I wouldn't be surprised. One would think that MDPM would at least be a fairly active stimulant at a high enough dose.
Yeah, I'm shocked it's worse than methamphetamine in this regard, I often facetiously refer to bupropion as "RitaMeth" because it feels like ir Ritalin had all the downsides of methamphetamine. Grinding my teeth, constantly feeling ready to beat someone to death if they just look at me wrong, if I take bupropion for long enough that it builds up in my system I sleep 1/3-1/4 nights and I unironically cannot feel feelings. Happiness, sadness, nothing but pure, unadulterated, homicidal rage. What sucks too is that bupropion in the right dose range is the only antidepressant that works for me, 2C-B microdosing helps a lot too though so I take bupropion spottily and substitute in with other things here and there.
Shocking is a good way to put it. That just goes to show that everyone reacts differently to different things. Sucks that you experience that sort of rage. I experienced rage like that during pregabalin withdrawal and it was very disturbing and uncomfortable. I would get waves of very suicidal, constant thoughts of jumping into traffic ( to the point of having to stand a few yards back from the road while waiting for the bus), as well as homicidal rage. I am by no means a violent person. Never been in a fight, I dont lose my temper, never have had thoughts of harming someone. With the pregabalin withdrawal I was having thoughts of violent murder and dismemberment at the slightest slight towards me, as well as bathing in their blood. It was extremely disturbing and I was considering going to the psych ward. My coworker was the one pissing me off and I work with knives so I had to be mindful to work a station away from any potential weapons. I think that pregabalin withdrwawal might be the worst out of any I've experienced. Worse than benzo WD, opiate WD, meth/pyro WD. It was pure hell and felt like being posessed.

2C-T-2 is something I've yet to get my hands on, but is sure does sound beautiful! All of the 2C-t/ALEPH-[1/2/4/7/21] compounds I want to eventually get around to.
2CT2 is an absolute gem. All of the 2ct series sounds fascinating. So many chems, so little time.

I've had 15 abdominal surgeries (a couple dental ones on top of that), I'm definitely the kind of patient that can get anything prescribed just due to my chronically poor health. I just need to get off my lazy ass and get to making the appointment, frankly hahaha.

I highly recommend it! You'll for sure be able to get gabapentin. Its a decent daily med but its even good just to have around and stock up on. Good for various combos or your days off from benzos
 
I sorta agree on 3-HO-PCP. Its at least caused more black outs and hospitalizations for me than any other disso. Even had cops break my ankle while trying to restrain me. I'm not sure I ever felt physically poisoned by it until this particular batch. Instead of the usual grey/off-white powder, this was a brown crystal. Consumption led to dissociation, as well as dysphoria every time and generalized physical pain, including in the organs. I dont know if cyanide is a possible byproduct of synthesis but thats what this felt like. It takes a lot for me to throw a way a drug but this one I tossed after 2 attempts. I gave some to a friend (before I discovered it was poison. He also tossed it immediatiely after trying it. By far the most harmful batch of any RC that I have tried.
That's wild, I've never been arrested in the first place let alone while having a manic episode on any drugs. I was only hospitalized once after drinking something like 400-600 standard doses of LSD (an entire vial that was meant to be divided into more vials, then lain onto sheets, it was almost a full page (not sheet, page) worth of LSD) and what happened was that my ileostomy bag fell off, so a paramedic was called to help out. By time the paramedics rolled up though, I was able to just fix it myself. God damn that was a lot of acid, it permanently changed me as a person in a very positive way. 3-HO-PCP often caused dysphoria because it gave me double vision by not keeping my eyes aligned (probably some disruption of the vestibulo-ocular reflex). The only times I've had physical pain from dissos would be the 2-3 times I've approached half a gram of ketamine or 2-FXE within 6 hours or so, but that's been insanely rare. My 3-HO was grey/off-white powder, I've never even heard of it being brown.
Shocking is a good way to put it. That just goes to show that everyone reacts differently to different things. Sucks that you experience that sort of rage. I experienced rage like that during pregabalin withdrawal and it was very disturbing and uncomfortable. I would get waves of very suicidal, constant thoughts of jumping into traffic ( to the point of having to stand a few yards back from the road while waiting for the bus), as well as homicidal rage. I am by no means a violent person. Never been in a fight, I dont lose my temper, never have had thoughts of harming someone. With the pregabalin withdrawal I was having thoughts of violent murder and dismemberment at the slightest slight towards me, as well as bathing in their blood. It was extremely disturbing and I was considering going to the psych ward. My coworker was the one pissing me off and I work with knives so I had to be mindful to work a station away from any potential weapons. I think that pregabalin withdrwawal might be the worst out of any I've experienced. Worse than benzo WD, opiate WD, meth/pyro WD. It was pure hell and felt like being posessed.
I've spent a lot of my life in circumstances where violence has been a necessary part of life, I've yet to lose a fight in this regard, though the majority are somebody giving me a reason and me waiting behdin a tree by their car, that kind of deal. My mother was a bouncer, my brother and I both used to work 'private security' jobs, we're the types who are always armed and hyperaware just because of how our lives have been, if that makes sense. I've never used pregabalin, but I have used a lot of oxycodone, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, countless benzodiazepines, GHB, methamphetamine, countless hallucinogens including MDXX's, and I've yet to experience a withdrawal or comedown. I consider myself incredibly lucky in that regard. If I'm 4-5 days without cannabis (as I recently, foolishly did) I become the kind of schizophrenic who was attempting to locate the levitating deity in a nearby neighbor's yard. He had a goat's head, if he stood up he would've been maybe 12-16 feet tall but he was levitating with his legs crossed. Two lights were coming out of his shoulders, playing the sounds of horns louder than anything I've ever heard, and I was present for a 50 kilowatt amplifier blowing a series of large scale speaker arrays back when I was an audio engineer. I ate some THC-O and I was normal within a couple of hours. I guess my issues come more from not using cannabis as often as I should.
2CT2 is an absolute gem. All of the 2ct series sounds fascinating. So many chems, so little time.
Eventually I'll get around to these, now that I've moved and am getting a container home set up, I've got to get a couple containers down to live in, then one as a laboratory. I've got all the equipment for inside the lab besides the schlenk line and inert gasses, but the remainder I've got on hand which is good. 2C-T's start from 2C-B, which is a pretty trivial thing for a wizard to conjure. BL isn't a great place to talk about synthesis, but 2C-T's/ALEPHs shouldn't be a far stretch to reach.
I highly recommend it! You'll for sure be able to get gabapentin. Its a decent daily med but its even good just to have around and stock up on. Good for various combos or your days off from benzos
Thank you for the recommendation here! I'm definitely going to do it, probably won't see the GP for a while though, then I'll need a referral to a pain specialist because I'm considering also shooting for carisoprodol or cyclobenzaprine. Some of the nerve damage I sustained around a decade ago leads to almost constant cramping issues, and a spasmolytic would be of specifically intense benefit.
I've heard the comparison of Foxy to LSD a lot and I REALLY like the sounds of a "feral" sort of LSD experience. I think I know exactly what you mean and I can't wait to try it. Maybe some time this summer. I definitely wont mix it with DXM. Have you mixed Foxy with any other dissociatives. I always add dissociatives to my psychedelic experiences if I have any on hand.
Yeah, foxy with 3-HO-PCP, ketamine, and 2-FXE was alright. Honestly, the numbing nature of dissociatives, and the tactile nature of foxy are somewhat antithetical to one another, I found dissociatives kind of ruined foxy in a way that they don't with other psychedelics. It's a "feral" LSD experience in that it leads me to do things like have an extreme desire to quadrapedally run around for no reason, it makes me shake uncontrollably in higher doses, for some reason I slightly pissed myself with no warning while at work once on 24mg of intranasal foxy.

How would you characterize pregabalin relative to pregabalin, carisoprodol, or benzodiazepines?
 
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That's wild, I've never been arrested in the first place let alone while having a manic episode on any drugs. I was only hospitalized once after drinking something like 400-600 standard doses of LSD (an entire vial that was meant to be divided into more vials, then lain onto sheets, it was almost a full page (not sheet, page) worth of LSD) and what happened was that my ileostomy bag fell off, so a paramedic was called to help out. By time the paramedics rolled up though, I was able to just fix it myself. God damn that was a lot of acid, it permanently changed me as a person in a very positive way. 3-HO-PCP often caused dysphoria because it gave me double vision by not keeping my eyes aligned (probably some disruption of the vestibulo-ocular reflex). The only times I've had physical pain from dissos would be the 2-3 times I've approached half a gram of ketamine or 2-FXE within 6 hours or so, but that's been insanely rare. My 3-HO was grey/off-white powder, I've never even heard of it being brown.
Luckily I wasn't arrested. Cops arrived along with the EMTs and the cops helped restrain me. During the experience I was hallucinating that I was at a homeless shelter. I couldn't move and all of these people were hovering over me. I just see them slowly creep and then they all suddenly jump on me and pin me down. I'm screaming and fighting for my life because I think these homeless people are literally trying to smother me to death. At the time I was completely unaware that they were EMTs or cops. They must have administered the anti-psychotic there. I woke up once during the ambulance ride, then once or twice more in the hospital. Once the drug was out of my system I was free to go. Unfortunately it was during a massive snow storm and I wasnt sent to the hospital in any sort of warm clothes. So I had to walk on a broken foot in my slippers and a hospital gown in the freezing cold, wait for the bus and then walk another 30 minutes home in inches of now. It was painful and very, very humiliating.

That is an insane amount of acid. I'm surprised that you were able to fix it yourself in that state. I'm not at all surprised that that trip changed you as a person. It's good that it was for the better as it could have gone either way, but it sounds like you typically respond to psychedelics in a pretty positive manner.

Yeah, foxy with 3-HO-PCP, ketamine, and 2-FXE was alright. Honestly, the numbing nature of dissociatives, and the tactile nature of foxy are somewhat antithetical to one another, I found dissociatives kind of ruined foxy in a way that they don't with other psychedelics. It's a "feral" LSD experience in that it leads me to do things like have an extreme desire to quadrapedally run around for no reason, it makes me shake uncontrollably in higher doses, for some reason I slightly pissed myself with no warning while at work once on 24mg of intranasal foxy.
That is great to know, I appreciate the info. I'll be sure to experience the Foxy on its own and maybe save a dissociative for the comedown if I still feel like it. Feral Acid sounds amazing to me. I love it when psychedelics make me feel animalistic. "Return to monkey" my friend and I call these trips. 4-HO-MIPT has a characteristic where it brings me in touch with my animal roots. Makes me feel like a somewhat intelligent ape, dissolves my human complex.

How in the hell were you at work on 24mg of Foxy? You never cease to amaze me

How would you characterize pregabalin relative to pregabalin, carisoprodol, or benzodiazepines?
I think there may be a typo here?
 
Luckily I wasn't arrested. Cops arrived along with the EMTs and the cops helped restrain me. During the experience I was hallucinating that I was at a homeless shelter. I couldn't move and all of these people were hovering over me. I just see them slowly creep and then they all suddenly jump on me and pin me down. I'm screaming and fighting for my life because I think these homeless people are literally trying to smother me to death. At the time I was completely unaware that they were EMTs or cops. They must have administered the anti-psychotic there. I woke up once during the ambulance ride, then once or twice more in the hospital. Once the drug was out of my system I was free to go. Unfortunately it was during a massive snow storm and I wasnt sent to the hospital in any sort of warm clothes. So I had to walk on a broken foot in my slippers and a hospital gown in the freezing cold, wait for the bus and then walk another 30 minutes home in inches of now. It was painful and very, very humiliating.
That sounds like a traumatic experience, my condolences that you went through such a thing. I'm glad the police were just there to help and not exerting excess force. Walking home on a broken foot is wild, a much milder version of something similar happened to me. I had a skin-level phallic surgery (nothing absurd, a scar from circumcision was causing issues and just needed to be fixed), so I had something like 8 stitches surrounding the shaft in a circle. This was while I was cultivating far more mushrooms than I could give to my friends, so I was often eating them in unmeasured fistfuls, whether dry or plucked straight from the bin, with little to no care for tolerance given, my stance at the time was "well if I have a tolerance, I just need to eat even more". The homies at the apartment (we had 6-7 of us in a weird hippie commune type of deal) would eat about an ounce of mushrooms weekly, but I was probably 3-4 times that at my highest rate of consumption. That's just the context for this.

I had driven myself to the hospital, about half an hour away, maybe 1.5 miles (the whole city I lived in was 65k people in 2 square miles), and after the surgery, I got a ride home. The next day, in a mushroom laden stupor, I decided I was going to do three things:
  1. Eat so many mushrooms I cannot see straight for the goddamn life of me.
  2. Only listen to a new podcast that day as I was getting sick of my usuals (Last Podcast On The Left, Behind The Bastards, Nine Club, Some Place Under Neith, etc.) so I put on this thing called Trash Talk that I'm pretty sure dealt unironic psychic damage to me.
  3. Walk all the way back to the hospital, sleep in my car until I'm sobered up, and then drive my car home.
The walk was miserable. I didn't realize that the stitches would rub inside of my pants, so to alleviate the agony I was tenting my pants up with my hands in my pockets, thankfully I had loose sweatpants on. It also began raining, and in Maine the rain is ice cold year round, so I was both drenched and quite cold, in pain with every step, because of nothing more than my foolishness. I could've just gotten a ride from a friend, or called an Uber, but for some reason I had decided to walk. This walk took me eight entire hours. I could normally do it in half an hour at most, and typically I was navigating the city on a skateboard, longboard, or BMX bike, but that would've been even more painful than walking I bet. Maine arguably doesn't have four seasons, but instead six (the natives there got it right), and this was right in the midst of "melting season", where the winter snows are melting into slushy, muddy nonsense that makes navigating the city an absolute nightmare, even in a car.

I finally reached my car, slept off the mushrooms, and drove home by roughly sunset, and I left my apartment around the time that the sun rose.

That is an insane amount of acid. I'm surprised that you were able to fix it yourself in that state. I'm not at all surprised that that trip changed you as a person. It's good that it was for the better as it could have gone either way, but it sounds like you typically respond to psychedelics in a pretty positive manner.
I've had a bag since I was 4, and my earliest memory is at 13, so I've never known life without a bag. I'm not super shocked I could change it, if somebody without a bag could wipe their ass on a full vial that was meant to be spit up into numerous sheets, I bet I could change an ostomy appliance, you know? I think if I'd gotten it recently as a grown adult (like most people do) I would've had significantly more trouble with changing it. I definitely respond to psychedelics in a positive manner, only super potent opioids and certain anticholinergics lead to bad times, but I can't find a dissociative, cannabinoid, or psychedelic that does me dirty. 180x Salvia extracts are wonderful, eating 3.5g of THCa I decarbed was a great time, I'm a big enthusiast of ripping spice out of a box mod and I used to smoke it off the street, no amount of PCP ever did me dirty, that vial of acid or half an ounce of mushrooms or 75-100mg of 2C-B intranasally have all been nothing but profoundly positively impactful, all of these experiences have been honestly.

After that brain damage at 13 years old, I was exhibiting tons of signs of schizphrenia until I was 19-20, when I realized that smoking weed made me normal for 3-4 days. I found it really peculiar, and antipsychotics did jack shit for me for some reason. My psychiatrist eventually had me to go a neurologist, so I had a "medical team" working on the case by that point, and the conclusion that they came to was that I likely have a demyelination disorder caused by the fact that from the ages of 4 to 17, I did not absorb a single bit of B12, which is necessary for your body to create and maintain neurons, and it caused some pretty serious damage (on top of the surgically induced brain damage) which I've used psychedelics to recover. After years of frequent and high dose psychedelic use, my brain scans were finally able to be interpreted. My docs said that people with a lot of brain damage have sort of incomprehensible scans, but mine went back to normal after I'd cleared maybe 5-6 sheets of acid, about a pound and a half of mushrooms, a variety of RC psychedelics, a few grams of PCP, and maybe a quarter ounce to half ounce of vaporized DMT on top of daily ayahuasca for 8-10 months, all within the course of something like 2-2.5 years from 22-24 years old.

That is great to know, I appreciate the info. I'll be sure to experience the Foxy on its own and maybe save a dissociative for the comedown if I still feel like it. Feral Acid sounds amazing to me. I love it when psychedelics make me feel animalistic. "Return to monkey" my friend and I call these trips. 4-HO-MIPT has a characteristic where it brings me in touch with my animal roots. Makes me feel like a somewhat intelligent ape, dissolves my human complex.
Foxy is definitely a "return to monkey" type of drug. It honestly has a lot in common with miprocin (4-HO-MiPT). and they mix together fantastically.
I think there may be a typo here?
Yeah, sorry I was sipping a heady dose of etizolam when I wrote that message, on top of the MDMB-4en-PINACA box mod which isn't the best for not making typos haha. I was asking about how you'd compare pregabalin to gabapentin, carisoprodol, or any benzodiazepines, as I've yet to encounter pregabalin but I've spent a lot of time with the latter three groups.
How in the hell were you at work on 24mg of Foxy? You never cease to amaze me
Well I thought I had a bunk batch, but it turns out it was just residual tolerance from 25I-NBOMe/25C-NBOMe/LSD. I viewed it as a mild stimulant at most, so I insufflated 24mg before going to work one day as as "mild energy boost". I proceeded to trip fucking balls at the office, my entire day was just doing inventory three times over, since we did two runs (one for the old inventory system, one for the new one), then a final one making sure that they both were aligned with one another. I was shaking pretty uncontrollably, my handwriting resembled that of somebody with early stage Parkinson's disease, it was pretty illegible. I had an absolutely fantastic time, my field of view was narrowed as if somebody had played with the FOV setting in Minecraft almost, and the visuals appeared at that dose as oddly phenethylamine-like but with a DMT sort of touch. I find DiPT to resemble foxy in a way, but foxy does not seem to resemble DiPT, it's this peculiar one sided reflection that reminds me more of inheritance than mimicry, if that makes sense. I appreciate the compliment too, the "You never cease to amaze me" thing, I have received a few comments from people in my life along the lines of "Man, I could never go to work as a software engineer on ayahuasca/LSD/vaping DMT all day/3g of oral THC/8g of mushrooms", but honestly I kind of thrive in that environment, and as long as I don't have to drive to get to work, I'm all set tripping in the workplace.
 
I have combined soma and foxy, after finding soma and LSD seemed to potentiate one another (…. When I combined soma with 5-MeO-DiPT, I was specifically vaporizing the foxy and taking 250mg intervals of soma, all of which built slowly. This combination was absolutely wonderful..

I had no idea it had synergy with psychedelics. Soma is the best drug of all to combine with opioids imo. Amazing synergy adding to the euphoria. The body euphoria in particular.

Can you elaborate on what type of synergy it had with psychs?

I havnt looked into the pharmacology of soma in detail. I know it’s gabaergic which can have some downstream dopaminergic activity but I wonder if the dopaminergic activity of soma could be particularly strong and that’s why it goes so well with everything. I wonder how it is with hard stims and dissociatives….wouod be funny if it syniergized with basically everything.
 
Can you elaborate on what type of synergy it had with psychs?
Yeah, it has consistently potentiated LSD for both @Felidaez and myself, but @Shinji Ikari tested it and found that it was more of a synergy than a potentiation, my fiance (@Felidaez ) and I thought it was more of a potentiation, but we were also on 1,000ug+ of LSD, so the experience can inherently vary quite a lot at those doses.

Soma adds a GHB-like drunkenness, sexual enhancement, tactile enhancement, and I personally experienced more intense visuals when carisoprodol was present, but Shinji found it to be slightly muted.
 
Yeah, it has consistently potentiated LSD for both @Felidaez and myself, but @Shinji Ikari tested it and found that it was more of a synergy than a potentiation, my fiance (@Felidaez ) and I thought it was more of a potentiation, but we were also on 1,000ug+ of LSD, so the experience can inherently vary quite a lot at those doses.

Soma adds a GHB-like drunkenness, sexual enhancement, tactile enhancement, and I personally experienced more intense visuals when carisoprodol was present, but Shinji found it to be slightly muted.

I don't think it muted the psyches but it didn't potentiate them either they just kind of worked in parallel. Tried it with acid and 2cb and enjoyed both.

30mg of 2cb. Perhaps why not.
 
A tab and a quarter of crystal caretakers finest
Translation for the clueless?
It's actually you who made me think 2cb might be more fitting into daily life compared to other psychedelics.

On topic
200 mg Tramadol
40 mg Oxy
100 mg Pregabalin
50 mg Atarax
With some grapefruit juice and Magnesium
And nicotine ofc
+200 mg Tapentadol...
 
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4mg Buprenorphine and a Little bit of some quality d-methamphetamine shards, had a few cocktails earlier, tbh the alcohol doesnt play nice with ice but it’s wearing off now. Not sure if i want to sleep now or just work on music through the day and pass out when i pass out. I feel like I could probably go to sleep if i tried now, this stuff doesnt feel as restless and jittery as stuff I’ve had before, it’s glass quality too, totally clear.

Gonna grab a smoke and then try and setup my music gear, got a new toy that is gonna help all my other toys work better together
 
20 mg methadone (no tolerance)

15 mg diazepam (no tolerance)

I was in a good amount of pain. Oddly the pain is still there at the same level but I seem to not care as much and can focus on work and am motivated now and no longer depressed and having suicidal ideation from the pain.

Pretty damn high, feel good and wrapped in the warm comfort of opioids…but not so high that I can’t stay awake, etc.

I’ve definitely had the opposite from pain drugs; pain is eliminated but don’t feel “high”….bit this particular result is odd
 
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Sleep well!
I just elaborated on my original post a bit.

btw it’s morning here but sleep is definitely an end goal with these drugs…..I love sleep. The feeling of laying in bed and knowing I’m about to go unconscious and not exist anymore. I love it. When I’m on my deathbed and have this same feeling it will be a thing of elation and relief.

I often dose benzos exactly for this reason at the high enough doses needed. But this wasn’t dosed with that intention.

😴😑😑
 
Ihe feeling of laying in bed and knowing I’m about to go unconscious and not exist anymore. I love it. When I’m on my deathbed and have this same feeling it will be a thing of elation and relief.
I hope for you that this will be the case. A peaceful death is a real blessing.
I hope that at that moment I'll be able to look back at my life without any serious regrets...
 
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