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madness00 said:
Cigarettes potentiate kratom very well, IME.
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Preliminary research shows otherwise; or rather that kratom may potentate the effects of cigs not sure if it's nico and/or other(s) in cigs).

My bad:
~2.5mg alp today
~8g kratom
~.5g yay (right?)
coffee
cigs
5mg flexeril
 
Eh, ODd on 1,4-butanediol, due to drinking alcohol first and its metabolism (via alcohol dehydrogenase) being delayed, thus redosed too many times because I didn't feel it and then it suddenly hitting at once to the point I went catatonic. Ended up in an ambulance and then the ER, because my girl found me unresponsive and couldn't wake me up. Not good times, would not repeat. My poor girlfriend is traumatized but taking it so well that she's making me pancakes... and my friends came over to be with her because she was freaking out.

This night has made me realize I have great friends, and a fantastic girlfriend.
 
Damn Xorkoth, glad to hear you're alright! I'm very curious about GHB and similar chems but the apparent potential for accidental ODs I hear about puts me off.

OT: 150mg armodafinil from my bed... 😃 gonna try to avoid any benzos or kratom today, had a week of going a bit too hard on them.
 
I don't think GHB is that dangerous, you just need to be aware of the dose and its interactions with other drugs, specially with ethanol but also benzodiazepines and other gabaergics.

I've never tried 1,4-butanediol but I think it's a riskier drug (but nothing crazy either), and you really need to avoid drinking ethanol because they will both compete for the same enzymes (as Xorkoth said). Moreover, 1,4-BD is likely to be biologically active on its own and will probably potentiate the depresant effects of ethanol even more.

Two different enzymes are needed to transform 1,4-BD to GHB in-vivo, and while the metabolism seems to be almost 100% in normal conditions, it wouldn't surprise me if some 4-hydroxybutanal (intermediary metabolite) could potentially cause some liver toxicity if the aldehyde dehydrogenase enzyme is inhibited.

I'm glad it turned out well Xorkoth, that must be quite a scary experience...

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Kratom
Thinking about doing some GHB lol
 
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Xorkoth said:
Eh, ODd on 1,4-butanediol, due to drinking alcohol first and its metabolism (via alcohol dehydrogenase) being delayed, thus redosed too many times because I didn't feel it and then it suddenly hitting at once to the point I went catatonic. Ended up in an ambulance and then the ER, because my girl found me unresponsive and couldn't wake me up. Not good times, would not repeat. My poor girlfriend is traumatized but taking it so well that she's making me pancakes... and my friends came over to be with her because she was freaking out.

This night has made me realize I have great friends, and a fantastic girlfriend.
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Shit xork, that was frightening. Csreful man, thank god ur ok
 
Vastness said:
Damn Xorkoth, glad to hear you're alright! I'm very curious about GHB and similar chems but the apparent potential for accidental ODs I hear about puts me off.

OT: 150mg armodafinil from my bed... 😃 gonna try to avoid any benzos or kratom today, had a week of going a bit too hard on them.
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GHB is a great drug, and quite safe, but you have to just be careful. Also it's extremely moreish and quite addictive. In fact I am probably going to have some withdrawals... and will have to use phenibut to taper off of it.

4meSM said:
I don't think GHB is that dangerous, you just need to be aware of the dose and its interactions with other drugs, specially with ethanol but also benzodiazepines and other gabaergics.

I've never tried 1,4-butanediol but I think it's a riskier drug (but nothing crazy either), and you really need to avoid drinking ethanol because they will both compete for the same enzymes (as Xorkoth said). Moreover, 1,4-BD is likely to be biologically active on its own and will probably potentiate the depresant effects of ethanol even more.

Three different enzymes are needed to transform 1,4-BD to GHB in-vivo, and while the metabolism seems to be almost 100% in normal conditions, it wouldn't surprise me if some 4-hydroxybutanal (intermediary metabolite) could potentially cause some liver toxicity if the aldehyde dehydrogenase enzyme is inhibited.

I'm glad it turned out well Xorkoth, that must be quite a scary experience...

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Kratom
Thinking about doing some GHB lol
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It was pretty scary, especially for my girl. I don't remember past a certain point, I guess I went to the bathroom and passed out on the floor. She found me and I was breathing weird and wouldn't wake up so she called 911. Some cops and paramedics and firefighters showed up, they gave me a shot of narcan because she wasn't sure what I took and my pupils were apparently absolutely pinned. I guess I woke up immediately then but was extremely confused, they were trying to get me to answer questions which I kinda remember. I could only remember my first name and couldn't tell them my birthday or what day it was or where I was. They were going to not take me to the hospital but since I couldn't answer questions they said they had to. I remember they were asking me what day it was and all I could think of to say was "no I'm good" over and over. I remember they loaded me into the ambulance and I was trying to say I was gonna be fine but couldn't speak properly. Next thing I remember I was in the hospital and still couldn't answer any questions. Eventually I became lucid again and I still couldn't remember what happened and said I didn't think I took anything because I couldn't remember, and they gave me a CT scan because they thought maybe I was having brain bleeding. Finally I called my girl and she had called my friend who told her it was probably GHB, so she asked me if that was it and I remembered, so I told the doctor. And then asked to be released so they released me after doing blood work and a urine screen. I felt amazing, and was trying to joke with the doctors, one of whom was not amused and the other of whom was being funny and joking with me. Then my friend picked me up and brought me home.

nznity said:
Shit xork, that was frightening. Csreful man, thank god ur ok
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Thanks, yeah this whole thing has made me realize I need to get my shit together and quit abusing addictive drugs. This lockdown has been a big setback for me, when I'm able to focus on playing shows with my band and doing my normal life I have way less desire to abuse drugs. But really I need to learn better ways of dealing with boredom. I get self-destructive when I'm bored, it's not good.
 
Xorkoth said:
GHB is a great drug, and quite safe, but you have to just be careful. Also it's extremely moreish and quite addictive. In fact I am probably going to have some withdrawals... and will have to use phenibut to taper off of it.



It was pretty scary, especially for my girl. I don't remember past a certain point, I guess I went to the bathroom and passed out on the floor. She found me and I was breathing weird and wouldn't wake up so she called 911. Some cops and paramedics and firefighters showed up, they gave me a shot of narcan because she wasn't sure what I took and my pupils were apparently absolutely pinned. I guess I woke up immediately then but was extremely confused, they were trying to get me to answer questions which I kinda remember. I could only remember my first name and couldn't tell them my birthday or what day it was or where I was. They were going to not take me to the hospital but since I couldn't answer questions they said they had to. I remember they were asking me what day it was and all I could think of to say was "no I'm good" over and over. I remember they loaded me into the ambulance and I was trying to say I was gonna be fine but couldn't speak properly. Next thing I remember I was in the hospital and still couldn't answer any questions. Eventually I became lucid again and I still couldn't remember what happened and said I didn't think I took anything because I couldn't remember, and they gave me a CT scan because they thought maybe I was having brain bleeding. Finally I called my girl and she had called my friend who told her it was probably GHB, so she asked me if that was it and I remembered, so I told the doctor. And then asked to be released so they released me after doing blood work and a urine screen. I felt amazing, and was trying to joke with the doctors, one of whom was not amused and the other of whom was being funny and joking with me. Then my friend picked me up and brought me home.



Thanks, yeah this whole thing has made me realize I need to get my shit together and quit abusing addictive drugs. This lockdown has been a big setback for me, when I'm able to focus on playing shows with my band and doing my normal life I have way less desire to abuse drugs. But really I need to learn better ways of dealing with boredom. I get self-destructive when I'm bored, it's not good.
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Mate, from all the Timye i hsve on BL you're one of the nicest persons un here.im glad you're realizing you need to get your shit together. Here there's ppl thst care about u man. Ur always advicing people AND ur a good prson altogether. cool that ur fine AND this didn't escalate ninto something worse. Cheers. Man (Nick-NZN) :)
 
Just stood up - made a coffee with a lot of vanilla sirup, and filled my 50 ml brownglass-bottles up that I use at home or even more for going out.

No other thing until now, but this will surely change ;)

JJ

sorry for OT: since the lockdown and sitting and laying around but eating normally i gained 7,5 kg!!!! OH MY GOD!!!
 
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