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You mentioned Gabapentin overpowering opioids. Yes, that’s if you let the Gabapentin kick in first.

If you take too much Gabapentin, let it kick in for an hour or so, then take an opiate, you won’t feel shit.

It’s always best to take your opiate at the exact same time with Gabapentin because the opiate will kick in first. Or take Gabapentin after your opiate. That way there’s no interference.

Yes, Gabapentin is excellent with amphetamines. It smooths the ride out, helps to take the edge off of anxiety.

I loathe amphetamines now so I’m on Concerta. Gabapentin is perfect with Concerta, takes the edge off. Just like with amphetamines.

Whoops, your post ended up above mine since I deleted that one so I could reply to a message. (Can't figure out how to add a quote properly with member name, etc. except from the initial reply.)

I've never really tried opiate-first -- I guess I'd be a little nervous that the gabapentin kicking in would push the OD-risk or just the sloppiness-factor up. This hasn't been the case for you? Or maybe the opiate's mostly worn off? (For me, gabapentin usually takes a good 2.5-3 hours to kick in, so a short-acting opiate would be on its way out.) I guess timing has prevented me most, since I've tended to save my opiate dose(s) for the later part of the day.
 
I’ve never had an OD problem. If you take the opiate the same time as Gabapentin, the opiate will kick in first in like 45 minutes. Then the Gabapentin will kick in in an hour or two. It’s all good. Never had a problem.

Like I said, the only time you will have a problem is if you take a significant dose of Gabapentin first, let that kick in, then try to add an opiate. That’s when it will cock block. I’ve been angry plenty from my opiate buzz being blocked. Had to learn...

But overdose was never a problem. I actually consider Gabapentin quite harmless, but that’s just me. People should always be careful. Every one’s tolerance is different. I have a high tolerance.
 
Glad you're liking them. The whole family is hit or miss, with some people getting nothing and some discovering the holy grail of euphoria, but pregabalin seems to be quite a bit more "hit" than gabapentin.

Coffee will probably go even better with pregabalin than benzos. I find the gabapentinoids quite speedy and disassociative, pregabalin even moreso than gabapentin or phenibut, plus all of the common "empathogenic" features (tactile and musical enhancement, emotional lability, sudden seemingly-profound realizations). I don't find them very benzo-like on their own, although they can definitely increase the subjective strength of a benzo taken after.

For what it's worth, I like to combine them with amphetamines, timing the gabapentin/pregabalin to kick in just after the peak period (~4 hours for me), for synergistic stimulated and also easing the comedown. Sometimes I also like to add a little bit of DXM or just 1-2 alcoholic drinks, since both intensify the disassociated feeling, but too much alcohol gets messy.

Personally, gabapentinoids completely overpower the more subtle feelings of opiates, while at the same time making an OD (or similar scary blackout+loss of motor skills situation) much more likely. So I try to separate them as much as possible, especially given the long duration (particularly of gabapentin, compounded by the couple of hours needed to stagger a solid dose).

Even by themselves, gabapentin or pregabalin can be quite impairing at even a moderate recreational dose, in terms of appearing "drunk" with slurred speech, forgotten words, poor coordination, etc. It's sometimes hard to find the time to take them, between responsibilities (and/or dosing other drugs), since a nighttime dose can definitely last through until morning, while an early morning dose might not be felt until midday.

Yeah man it's so weird but at the same time pleasurable. A very distinct speedy dissociation. Goes very well with cigarettes as they seem to slow it down a little. God I took 300mg and I am stumbling around but somehow getting a lot of shit done in my house. It's like amphetamine and PCP had a baby.
 
This shit lasts longer than I thought it would, either that or my perception of time is wonky. Doesn't feel much like a benzo anymore, like I said it's like PCP and amphetamines or something

Fuck it imma just go with it. 4g super red kratom in chamomile tea, Parliament cigarettes (which taste wonderful right now), and a persistent Lyrica buzz
 
Yeah, I imagine nicotine has a great synergy with it. I’ve just never been a smoker.

Weed has great synergy too, but I don’t have any.

I mainly use nicotine as an adjunct to more fun stuff. Can't beat heroin and a Newport, that's the Chicago special. Lyrica and a Parliament isn't bad either though.

I don't smoke weed anymore though on account of drug court, but honestly I don't think I'd smoke it much even if I could. I came to the conclusion a while ago that weed makes me depressed and anxious with prolonged use.

Added 15mg DXM just because
 
Yeah man it's so weird but at the same time pleasurable. A very distinct speedy dissociation. Goes very well with cigarettes as they seem to slow it down a little. God I took 300mg and I am stumbling around but somehow getting a lot of shit done in my house. It's like amphetamine and PCP had a baby.

Wow, PCP -- I'd be really interested to see how it compares, but I passed on it when it was around during my teen years (influenced by the scare stories) and since then I haven't run into it, so I'll have to take your word for it. (That said, PCP's probably one of the easier disassociatives for me to find given my rudimentary internet skills, since it's actually got a fair amount of street popularity, but it's less common where I live now compared to past cities.)

I've heard it said that pregabalin experience is akin to taking every major category of drugs all at once, which seems right. I perceive: the heightened emotions+sensations of MDMA/empathogens, the talkative mania of amphetamines/stimulants, the confident sociability of alcohol, the introspective thoughtspace of cannabis, the anxiety relief of benzos/sedatives, the euphoric sense of warmth+security of opiates, and the, well, disassociated perspective of disassociatives. (Gabapentin, too, just emphasizing or diminishing the relative prominence of the different factors.)
 
I've heard it said that pregabalin experience is akin to taking every major category of drugs all at once, which seems right. I perceive: the heightened emotions+sensations of MDMA/empathogens, the talkative mania of amphetamines/stimulants, the confident sociability of alcohol, the introspective thoughtspace of cannabis, the anxiety relief of benzos/sedatives, the euphoric sense of warmth+security of opiates, and the, well, disassociated perspective of disassociatives. (Gabapentin, too, just emphasizing or diminishing the relative prominence of the different factors.)

This is incredibly accurate. It's extremely hard to describe, but it does feel like a dogpile of different drugs hitting you at different times. Like I could lay down and probably fall asleep, but I just got done playing MW and my reaction times and focus were intense. It's like nothing else existed besides shooting fake people on a TV screen. It's like a choose your own adventure drug.

One thing I don't care for is that it makes me kinda twitchy.

As for the PCP comparison I see a similarity in the distinct stimulating dissociation PCP provides. Once again it's difficult to explain. It just feels similar.
 
I mainly use nicotine as an adjunct to more fun stuff. Can't beat heroin and a Newport, that's the Chicago special. Lyrica and a Parliament isn't bad either though.

That's funny that different cigarettes are better on some occasions, lol.

I like parliament just because they remind me of the joints i used to roll with make-shift filters.

OT - 15 G kratom. Tapering off the 30 i had yesterday so i can rebuild a non tolerance.
 
That's funny that different cigarettes are better on some occasions, lol.

I like parliament just because they remind me of the joints i used to roll with make-shift filters.

OT - 15 G kratom. Tapering off the 30 i had yesterday so i can rebuild a non tolerance.

I like Parliaments because they're smooth, and also the built-in coke scooper recessed filter lol.

You're really getting into that kratom huh?
 
Dude it's all i can do and i need high doses to even feel like it's a worth while drug. It's not too bad.. it's growing on me.

I am dead broke though after building my stash so i won't have more after tomorrow until next Thursday when i get paid.

Still feels like a couple beers but less sloppy and more focused. I would go as far as saying it helps with empathy as well. *cough cough* ;)
 
Well its Friday, so happy Friday to all

Woke up early this morning and had some;
Few bong hits
1mg alzam
Few hrs later pict up some stash and had
Few hits H
200ml vodka

Feeling semi good but my mind is racing with my thoughts bouncing around..
Anyhow hope everyone has an awesome weekend
 
50ug 1P-LSD, 125ug clonazolam, 5mg buprenorphine and wine. LSD is dulled a bit but tbh i just wanted a chill fun high
I definitely still feel it but it's more laughing at every single thing rather than proper tripping

I'd take the bupe down to 2mg, never got anything from doses over that. Might dull the trip less as well.

Today I took 150mg pregabalin earlier at work and gave my buddy one also. Had him feeling real good, it was pretty funny listening to him talk about it. Just took another 150 right now and some kratom.
 
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