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How does a person afford an addiction?

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The other day, I was chatting with a friend, and we ran into a quandary of how a person who is opiated all day long, can afford a heavy OC addiction, without a prescription.

In the prices thread, I rarely saw OC sell for under .50c/mg, (sometimes as high as $1) yet I see testimonials all the time of people taking anywhere from 260-700mg a day, and keeping this lifestyle up for months.

I consider myself a fairly marketable job-seeker, so if I had a $200/day addiction (roughly 5x 80mg daily) I would need a job that pays around $125,000yr to maintain my current lifestyle plus my addiction.

The highest paying job I've been able to manage, pays just over $40,000yr. This is a joke, as it wouldn't even cover half my addiction, nevermind living expenses.

So someone help me out with the math here. Even if you have a cheap hookup, it's pretty clear to me, that you would need a pretty fantastic job to be able to afford to take this much oxy. I do realize that this is one of the main reasons people get into heroin, but there are still many holes left in this logic.

Mods, I gave it some thought and really, there's no other way for me to get an answer to this question without outright asking it. If this contravenes the rules about pricing being outside of the pricing thread, then I apologize. I just didn't see any way around it. If you have any issues with this, please PM me.
 
jobs (yes there are people out there that work for their high)


hustles (make legal money with various hustles)


crime and grimy junky shit (stealing, robbing, manipulation)

Doctor shopping


its difficult and a shitty life style but all of the above are possible
 
well first you get as much of your living expense as you can covered by the govt. Most junkies i know are on unemployment/food stamps. I know a few guys who get 1900 a month on unemployment its insane. Then you get a good hook so people want the shit you get and make a small profit/dope with that. you get the idea, the schemes are endless.
 
I had a script and a really good couple that I was good freinds with ,who had chronic pain and went to a doctor that wrote out large scripts of Dilaududs, OC's etc. to his patients if they aked specificly for a certain drug, which most doctors would take as an obviuos sign of drug seeking, but this guy would write each of them a script for 240 40mg OC's and they would front me like 150+ at a time plus free pills to sell them for them. I paid less than .25 per mg, which was the street price here until about 2 years ago..I basicly paid .10 per mg and sold them for .25 per mg to friends locally. I made plenty of money and was able to do a lotta OC's for free or very cheap.
Sometimes the doctor would switch them to 4mg Dilaudids, and I was fronted a couple hundred of those each month then, selling them for cheap to friends. I got very addicted to opiates during that time, since I had a script for OC's and doctor shopped till I was caught , getting all kinds of pills, selling the Percocets and Hydrocodone 10's and Fentanyl patches and MSContin,etc. and kept the OC's and a script of 50mcg Fentanyl patches for myself,plus the pills from my two good friends, I stayed high everyday for several years, plus selling weed,coke,etc. to supplement my pill income, which was lower as time went buy becasue I used more than I sold, finally using heroin on top of all that, until I finally OD'd for the how many times I can't remember and had several terrible car wrecks almost dying in each one and was scripted a bunch of pills till I had several long surgeries, the last one was 8 hours long and I was given a shitload of pills after the surgery, then tapered off by the doctor over 3 or 4 months till I was taking no opiates.
My two friends moved to another city, and one ended up dying of a Methadone+Xanax OD.
I still use heroin sometimes,snorting, but take frequent breaks after a few dayts binge, which sucks becasue I know I can never go back to those years where I knew I had a bunch of pills to take the next day,and week,etc..
 
^Voila! haha

Ummm the easiest way is if Codeine is available OTC. It is a bit of a pain to magic it into oxy, but hydrocodone you can do for about $10 to $15 per gram. Dihydrocodeine even cheaper.

I like the story above though because it illustrates drug company mentality. I mean I wonder what the stats are on how many narcotic pills are sold every year and how many are taken for actual pain vs. abused.

Anyone got a thread on that? Maybe I'll go google.

edit:
Canada OxyCotin Abuse
Source of Drug
Regular Dealer %45.0
Irregular Dealer %20.0
Doctor %40.0
Partner %15.0
Friend %45.0
Theft %0

Percentage can add up to more than 100 indicating more than one drug source
http://journal.cpha.ca/index.php/cjph/article/viewFile/646/646

So it seems that at least in Canada health care is paying for a fair amount OC abusers habits
 
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How does a person afford an OC addiction?

You don't
eventually you will run out of money
or die...I ran out of money first(6 years)
and tens of thousands of dollars later
 
^ I second the above, MiamiRoxi30's. You can't supplement this addiction. As one addicted to OC (and on day 1 w/d), I can say that at first you may think this is possible, for years even, but soon enough it'll catch up with you. Once it does, your money will disappear as well your sources.

I work, make more than enough money. Went from profiting to a decreasing checking and savings account. I DO have state health insurance/foodshare (food stamps, once called). I have a pain doctor and 'friends' who have pain doctors. I know many people who often have pills around for free or for sale. These things used to seem too good to be true. Yet, now here I sit sweating, can't keep my legs still, wanting to suffocate myself or pass out for a week so I don't feel this anymore -- and can't find a pill to 'save my life'.
 
^You're saving your life right now buddy


Some are just plain rich, but most aren't. It can become a lifestyle just as heroin addiction, so if 95 percent of ones energy is put into the game of finding OC for a decent period of time then they will probably become pretty damn good at it%)


But soon they either die, get clean by withstanding the hell for a short period, or go even deeper by switching to Heroin. A TINY minority can keep up an OC addiction for their whole life, usually the wealthy/influential or quacks with a medical degree.
 
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this is my first post, whaddup yall.

straight up, you cant afford it. you can in the beginning and shits fun and all, but then it stops being a good time and starts being your fuckin full time job. you hustle, you lie, you cheat, you steal, you manipulate and fuck over every single person who gives a shit about you.

i have a minimum wage job and expensive habit. if i'm not workin legit, i'm workin in some other way to get my high.
 
Hey, amapola!! just wanted to say good link and ... Thanks.

The total cost to support this level per month for me , based purely on LOCAL Market conditions = $3720 approx. If I had to pay for all of them ...

AND A HUGE REPLY TO THIS POST WAS JUST DELETED AS I PRESSED A KEY THAT FUKIN CLOSED THIS BROWSER AND i GIVE UP ...



amapola said:
^Voila! haha

Ummm the easiest way is if Codeine is available OTC. It is a bit of a pain to magic it into oxy, but hydrocodone you can do for about $10 to $15 per gram. Dihydrocodeine even cheaper.

I like the story above though because it illustrates drug company mentality. I mean I wonder what the stats are on how many narcotic pills are sold every year and how many are taken for actual pain vs. abused.

Anyone got a thread on that? Maybe I'll go google.

edit:
Canada OxyCotin Abuse
Source of Drug
Regular Dealer %45.0
Irregular Dealer %20.0
Doctor %40.0
Partner %15.0
Friend %45.0
Theft %0

Percentage can add up to more than 100 indicating more than one drug source
http://journal.cpha.ca/index.php/cjph/article/viewFile/646/646

So it seems that at least in Canada health care is paying for a fair amount OC abusers habits
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RKulsh21 said:
You dont ever afford it.. I dont have money for anything other then my habit. No recreational activities, bills go unpaid, and it is all for your fix.

Having to come up with the money for 4 30mg roxies a day is such a hassle and full of stress they cost 25-30 bucks in my area now, and if im not working ALL of the time im finding another way to get them..

Literally when I have a day off from work, then im suffering, if i'm working, i'm working for my habit and that is it.. its a vicious cycle and one that i hope to break free from soon.

Let's see 4 a day at $120 a day is $840 a week.. :(
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I remember those days. For awhile, I was also basically just working to support my hydro habit, with a little left over for gas & smokes. Having money in my pocket was one of the more immediate, tangible rewards of getting clean.
 
That exists in many other European countries and the United States as well, we have both methadone and buprenorphine maintenance. Although its usually not "state sponsored" but insurance company sponsored.
 
sell drugs.
skim money of the above or at work.
steal.
take money from people you still trust.
have one or more jobs.
sell possessions.
rent out the rooms in your apartment so your rent is only 100 a month and sleep on the couch (but you still cant pay rent because that 100 for rent bought pills and beer)
 
JustaChippa said:
I remember those days. For awhile, I was also basically just working to support my hydro habit, with a little left over for gas & smokes. Having money in my pocket was one of the more immediate, tangible rewards of getting clean.
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Yea man.. Leftover money goes to gas and I have still literally ran out of gas like 5 times recently because i would rather have my fix then gas. :\
 
Living for free at ones parents or similar yet keeping a steady part-time or full time job I imagine would cover the cost decently, plus if your addicted then you might be selling, alot of dealers make only enough money back from dealing to buy what they consume themselves too. buying in quantity helps too, some people may average prices upwards to be glamorous or to reflect their heaviest using times,. Because there are certainly times where supply is low and they have to make due on and off with lower quantities or using other lesser drugs of choice
 
I think using OC as an example makes it look even harder...it's hard, but there's a reason people graduate to dope, and that's cause it's cheap. And in my case it's just basically a matter of working every opportunity I get and making sacrifices in other ways, like eating cheap and w/e. Plus as others have mentioned, a lot of times you end up having to really stretch supplies and look hard for ways to avoid being sick.
 
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