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how does 2c-b compare to MDMA

Drug comparisons are tricky, because everyone reacts to them differently. Never take anyone's one experience with a drug as being your standard for what to expect. Nevertheless, I'll give a try at this, since I've used both...

First off, MDMA is in a class by itself in terms of pushing you into a positive headspace. I've yet to encounter another drug that requires so little effort on my part to stay optimistic, heh. It's not psychedelic at all in my experience; even when weed is thrown into the mix or I'm very tired, the experience becomes more delirious/dissociative than psychedelic.

2CB is a psychedelic in every sense of the word: you get visuals (watery rippling for me, usually, or pulsing/breathing effects), your thoughts meander along unfamiliar lines, and the power of your imagination is magnified to sometimes frightening proportions. 2CB, like most PEAs, has a nice body high to it; I personally get a "rushing" feeling, like standing in a strong breeze, and a sense of nervous excitement that can make it hard to sleep.

The only real similarity between MDMA and 2CB in my opinion is the feeling that most psychoactives give you: a sense of caprice, loosening of social inhibitions, and a nice body high.

The dosage is very, very different than MDMA. With MDMA, you have some margin of safety, since the dose is large -- on the order of 100-200mg -- and it's hard to put yourself in a bad place by taking too much (within reason, of course). With 2CB, you're talking about doses of 10-20mg; taking more than 40mg can easily put you in a very uncomfortable state of confusion. Most cheap digital scales can only measure within 0.01g, which gives a margin of error of +/-50mg...you can see the problem, I'm sure. 8)

If you've never done a psychedelic before, I recommend starting out with something a little less problematic, like mushrooms or LSD. If you have, I recommend using 2CB in a controlled setting your first few times, at least until you become acquainted with the effect that it has on you. Be careful, and invest in an accurate scale so that you don't end up in deep water. :\
 
I was quite dissapointed with 2c-B, although it gave me cartooning style open eye visuals, i got very talkative and developed a scottish accent, (i'm Australian btw, thick aussie accent) it just doesn't compare to the buzz and gurn factor that i get from MDMA,

if you have no other choice other than 2c-B its something different and enjoyable.
 
I couldn't compare 2cb to MDMA because they're way different IMO.

2cb is more trippy. There's no love feeling and body buzz like MDMA, but it's a nice drug I think. It usually lift my mood, lots of laughts, make me talk a lot. In addition it gives some nice open eye visuals like walls "breathing" or melting, wattery surfaces... and enhances color, everything looks more saturated (in terms of color).

But I can't compare them definitely. If I have to chose, I'd take MDMA, but I also like 2cb, for example if I want to have fun two days, I'd take 2cb the first one, and MDMA the second one.

It's also a nice combo.
 
Honestly this is a stupid question. They are nothing alike. And you should look it up on here, erowid, wherever, if you want to learn about it..before making a thread.

They aren't alike, I like both. Good luck getting 2c-b though, I hadn't heard of it before I took it but it's fun. I can't get any now, and neither can most people(other 2Cs aren't the same at all).
 
^ Definitely.

Its hard for me to grasp where the notion of the two being synonymous came from, as the two are completely different for the most part in effects.

Yes, with 2C-B the tacticle sensations do, in a way, feel like MDMA, but in a mostly different way. Its not so much an orgasmic/rushing body high, but a ticklish and buzzing body high.

2C-B is one of my favorite substances, so OP, I do hope you have the chance to try this chem out!
 
i dont think i have tried 2c-b yet but since your qurious to other chemicals i will say that i went to a house party once and i didnt want to roll because i was trying to be good so i did 2c-e and im just going to say i wouldnt recomend it. i was fucked for like 15 hours i swear to god the devil was in my brain poking it with his pitchfork. now 2c-i on the otherhand sounds pretty fun and similar to mdma but more trippy. research, this should keep you busy for a while haha.
 
^ 2c-e is not a party drug. It is more of an introspection drug, almost like a dissociative. I had a pretty bad first trip but I've found it to be a very worthwhile drug if you simply give it enough of a chance and tweak your dosage/set/setting.
 
Idk my friend had some but i bitched out lol...i just decided 2 roll...ad some bomb ass molly tho so i still had fun...go lakers lol
 
I've tried 2c-i before, and its nothing like mdma. But it is kinda similar in some ways, but their totally different drugs. Like everyone said, you can't really compare the two.
 
dj_esky said:
I was quite dissapointed with 2c-B, although it gave me cartooning style open eye visuals, i got very talkative and developed a scottish accent, (i'm Australian btw, thick aussie accent) it just doesn't compare to the buzz and gurn factor that i get from MDMA,

if you have no other choice other than 2c-B its something different and enjoyable.
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after i read this post i read the aussie part i stopped and re-read the whole thing over in steve irwin's voice like when he is about to pounce on a croc crikey mate!

no disrespect just her smokin a blunt and had a moment lol...=D
 
2cb is way more useful than mdma in many ways but not quite as dancey.

2cb is soft and fluffy altho it can energize alot too. Sometimes it's totally neutral - not energizing or sedating. Purely empathodelic sometimes.Very therapeutic!

I for example had worked long period and made some knots in my psyche to stand the work. I was kind of locked. 2cb helped to resolve something.It's not deep like some psychedelics but its empathy and opening quality is still very useful.
There is no bad comedown or serotonin depletion from 2cb. I think it does not release serotonin or norepinephrine at all. Side effects are very few in general.
I feel good in the weeks and months after the experience without any need to do it again.

Mind space in which mdma took me was just too speedy to be useful. It can be very fun, but the fun feels quite ungrounded. It feels like it is destined to crash.That's what I mean by ungrounded.It was just a up and down drug for me. Mdma did not leave me in very content state.

Others don't have to agree and probably some wont. These were my only personal observations and I don't like speedy things in general. They seem stressful for me.
 
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Hey, sorry for the really late question to this thread but i've done LSD and Mushrooms as well as MDMA. Is it kinda like mushrooms crossed with MD? And i've heard lots of things like "its not safe" and "don't do it" on the internet is this true?
Thanks
ps is there any mind fuck/thought loop stuff to it?
 
"Is it Mushrooms crossed with MDMA" - No not really, it's quite different. Only with the loosest of descriptions could you really class it like this. It's probably more like low dose and visual LSD than mushrooms, really, but I've never thought about it like that before and it's still completely different. To me it's a short, clear headed, confident-ish, visual, tactile, hedonistic experience. It's quite unique, really. A very beautiful drug.

As with regard to the safety of 2c-b - I've never heard any claims that it is unsafe. What are the claims in particular? There was a time in my life when I regularly used 2c-b as my regular party drug and it was a very happy and clean time in my life; it doesn't seem to cause comedowns or arcrue brain fog like MDMA and other drugs do. I've never heard of any safety issues other than psychological issues; I've heard of/witnessed a few people get paranoid, and although this is far less likely than with the tougher psychs, it can take you by surprise.

No thought loops as such, not in my experience anyway. You're more likely to be visually overwhelmed, although mostly at higher doses.
 
2cb has had usage now that surely rivals MDMA in 80s or 90s? It can hardly still be a research chemical (even though it is) Point is, documented details are pretty reliable and this being an unsafe drug is not really apparent.

So, yes all drugs are dangerous, but this particular drug isnt overly compared to the majority. In fact, the purity of 2cb is likely far higher than what you would be finding in heroin, meth or coke, so technically safer?

Its effects are nothing like mdma nor mushrooms, nor anything between.
Consider, the sparkly, uplifting elements of mdma.
Consider the visually impactful effect of mushies, thats what people are suggesting are similiar.

This means headspace, spatial awareness, empathy etc, these arent necessarily similiar at all.
Hope this helps?
 
In my experice you dont feel like genarl love from everything with MDMA. 2c-b really lets you connect to yourself. You'll start noticing things with your body that are out of wack.
You might catch some tears. Music will sound amazingn and if you truly like your SO, youll be all over here him/her.

If I could take MDMA without damaging my brain, id choose to dose it over LSD:D

 
One thing that is particular to 2c-B is it's short duration, something like 6 hours and if you snort it more like 4 to 5, although if you do snort it your nose will be in serious pain for 10 minutes but fine after that.
That means that the peak is also short, usually 90 minutes, so if you get in a bad trip and can't come out of it, at least you can find some relief in the thought that it will be over soon.

Anyway, does not resemble MDMA, as it's not particularly active as a stimulant, and it's not anxiolytic either.
There will be less confusion and less disinibition, and more ability to control impulses.

It's not particularly toxic at high doses, I personally experimented up to 40mg with no problems, was just more tired than if I had done 20.
I know of people that took up to 60 and still were fine, but I think that taking like 100mg or more will cause some medical emergency.

It doesn't resemble mushrooms at all, I find it more social and slightly stimmy compared to mush that are not stimulant at all, more like they will relax you.
 
Beware that if you snort it, its between 2-3 times as strong and kicks in almost instantly. I've recoiled in pain before only to open my eyes in pain and see telltale fractals forming on the carpet. It can be very disconcerting.
 
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