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how do you feel about people who introduce others to drugs?

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So, long story short, I was over at someone's house the other night and tried H for the first time in my life. The girl who's house me and another guy were at were smoking tar, with my aforementioned associate, and eventually asked if I wanted some. I hesitated but eventually accepted, taking two hits off some foil, then proceeded to slump in a corner for a while and stare into space. I felt very relaxed and had the nice warm good feels, but I wasn't super impressed by it...perhaps it just wasn't good heroin, or I built it up too much in my head, or something...

But anyway, that incident reminded me of this question. When I told her that I'd never done heroin before, she didn't even bat an eye, instead telling me how long I should hold the smoke in if it was my first time. On the one hand I feel like I can't judge that too much, because introducing people to something like heroin probably doesn't seem like a big deal to a heroin user, because they may not see their own usage as a big deal, but at the same time cavalierly giving stuff like that to people who've never done it before...just seems wrong on some level to me.
 
My boys who got me on opiates, I got to start smoking cigrets when I did. I might have said "If I'm going down, you are, too!" then I fed his nicotine habit for quite awhile. Dickmove? No. Moral thing to do? No. Do I regret it? Fuck no.
 
I've never had anyone pressure me into trying addictive substances, or any drug for that matter.

Also, if someone offers you an addictive drug, they could be trying to be polite. Even if it is a dick move when the recipient is a virgin to em.

Remember that quote?

"What do you say to a stranger who offers you drugs? You say thank you, because drugs are expensive!"
 
It really depends on how it is offered etc. If you were all sitting around having a joint and offered someone who had never tried anything than some booze and was a complete virgin to all things narcotics then I don't really see the harm if it was done in a non pressured way.
If that same virgin to all things narcotics were offered some hard and highly addictive drug like H or meth then I see that as being wrong as regardless of if it was in a non pressured way or not, starting out with something so life changing and addictive is not cool.
Also adults offering kids drugs is way not cool at all.
 
I made the choices when an what I did.
kick the nikkas some barrz or bennies every now an then.
Spread plur threw mdxx lsd shrooms 2cb.
I'm cool wit it.
 
I do think about this an awful lot - two old friends of mine, avid intellectuals with a penchant for drugs asked what I was under the influence of, on one occasion. Codeine was the answer and we began discussing opioids, they expressed an interest and so I spent 3 hours straight explaining CWE's and general HR. After I left, I felt so guilty; 'what if she/they enjoy opiates as much as I do? Fuck, I've created two new future Junkies!'.
I then proceeded to link them to every CWE and opioid addiction thread on this website, painting a rather gory picture of the potential damage opiates can cause. I think I performed 5 CWE's for them, out of worry that they would possibly OD on the APAP if done wrongly by themselves.

Turned out neither of them enjoyed opiates that much, appreciated the novelty, then never used them again.

If someone asks to sample anything I'm using, I become the most hypocritical, encyclopaedic 'man of HR'. I often spend longer talking about the drug than enjoying it myself! =D
 
Ahh I remember my first time trying heroin. An old friend and her new boyfriend visited my apartment. The dude pulled out a piece of foil with suspicious looking black stuff on it. I wasn't sure what it was, but I could guess. It scared me. But I did ask for it. He chuckled for a second and said he didn't like taking people's virginities. (in a way). Buuut then he let me smoke even though I was terrible at it and probably wasted some of his shit. Good fella.
I went two weeks without so much as craving another hit. Then I made the mistake of purchasing just $5 worth from my usual other-drug dealer. After that, about $200 a week was reserved for ze heroin.

Anyway, yeah, I think it does depend on if the person asks or if the user asks them first if they want it. I still don't know anyone who would actually pressure someone into doing heroin. The less we share of our stash, the better for us.
 
I agree pretty much with the belief that if one is seeking the drug for the first time and someone provides them with it then they are not being a bad person or intentionally doing them harm by any means. I have introduced many people to psychedelics for their first times and it is to my understanding that most if not all are grateful for this.

It can also be bad depending on the scenario. When I was fifteen I tried coke for the first time. It was provided to me by someone who by law would be considered an adult so morally speaking that was a probably a little fucked up. What is more, my best friends mom provided me with the best cocaine I have ever done to this day at the age of 17, along with introducing me to xanax bars then try to take advantage of me in other ways lol. She would sell me 8 balls and make me promise I would be careful because of how pure it was. Pretty messed up all things considered, but she was very sick and since then has passed away. Rip Tina
 
nothing quite like the feeling of smoking a joint only to get half way through when someone tells you its cocopuffs.....faaaaaaak then you get that incredible hulk feeling and want to tear a door off its hinges!

or being at rave and asking your friend for a drag and it turns out it was a dip ..... ooooooh lawdy!

thats all i got, no anger, no resentment, just an experience(s) in the books
 
I feel that it really is up to the person who receives the drug, ... but with what said.... I've introduced some folks into hard drugs, and now I feel horrible about it years later that they havne't quit. : (
 
The people who introduced me to blaq a long time ago always egged me on with free drugs if I IV'ed it.. It was my choice to IV diesel in the first place, but c'mon.. "ykM, I'll give you two roxi's if you slam em', you have self-control!" As I'm getting a few OG Opanas ready to snert.
 
^ good people ehh?

Some people are going to try drugs regardless, if you don't introduce them somebody else will. It should be their decision like with everything else in life but at the same time its complicated because peer pressure usually happens even if you aren't conscious about it, its up to you to analyze the situation. If you care about the person (or even if you don't) you shouldn't introduce him to something that you know will do more harm than good (like very addictive drugs but other things as well).

I've introduced people to MDMA, psychedelics and weed in the past but even if I believe those drugs provide mostly a positive life experience i won't do it anymore unless the other person is convinced. But that's only because how could you know what's best for the other? You don't even know what's best for yourself. IMO
That being said i still believe "everybody" should try a psychedelic at least once.
It's kind of extrange but no one has ever introduced me to a drug before, they may get it for me but it's always been me the one who asked first.
 
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4meSM said:
That being said i still believe "everybody" should try a psychedelic at least once.
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QFFT, expand thou mind, find inner harmony, love things you take for granite on the daily.. Like fucking water. I was in a very awesome state off a ten strip, tits, tripped.. I was thirsty (So I figured I'd fill up a big ass pitcher of h2o! Not sure why I filled it to the literal brim, but I gotta make sure my broj's hydrated.. And have cigrets! There were 4 of us tripping quite hard, I ate ten, only other person who went half deep was my boy Joseph who ate 4-5. Preset; He's laying on the garage floor, asks for a cigret, I have no idea who handed it to him, but it was a Budheavy. Nearly certain I heard "Ohhhh fuck yeah" then he slammed it. Damn, I need to write a TR.
 
^ Yeah i honestly feel kind of sorry for all the people who die without having that psychedelic experience, living a "sober" life thinking they know everything.
The exploration of our consciousness is essential. Now that i've tried DMT I often think about the fact that the majority of the earth's population live an entire human life without knowing that something like that exists, i mean hows that possible!?
 
Honestly, we're all fucking leeches / Parasites, sucking the blood of others to churn a profit.. Not that a person doesn't need to survive, but you don't have to fuck people.. To the ones who think psychs are awful drugs, and this MAY sound a bit harsh, but a difficult experience might be good for them.. I'm not sure what these so called 'bad trips' are, but if you're having a rough time as your brain goes to levels you cannot fathom, don't be a kurwa and stay in the same damn place.. The entire. Fucking. Time..
 
ykm420 said:
The people who introduced me to blaq a long time ago always egged me on with free drugs if I IV'ed it.. It was my choice to IV diesel in the first place, but c'mon.. "ykM, I'll give you two roxi's if you slam em', you have self-control!" As I'm getting a few OG Opanas ready to snert.
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That's some fucked up shit.
had a gf like that would always use together she likd iv would ask me to hit her an shit.
Can't say she made me but don't think it helped my curryosity.

Lsd and shrooms for the masses nikka.
once that doors open enlightenment awaits haha

ykm420 said:
Honestly, we're all fucking leeches / Parasites, sucking the blood of others to churn a profit.. Not that a person doesn't need to survive, but you don't have to fuck people.. To the ones who think psychs are awful drugs, and this MAY sound a bit harsh, but a difficult experience might be good for them.. I'm not sure what these so called 'bad trips' are, but if you're having a rough time as your brain goes to levels you cannot fathom, don't be a kurwa and stay in the same damn place.. The entire. Fucking. Time..
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Working threw those complex thoughts an feelings are all what I love about trippin.
if I've been a shit bag the last month and trip it'll prolly kick me in the nuts for the better.
 
Buy the ticket, take the ride
as long as we arent talking about selling drugs to high school kids, if someone chooses to buy a drug off of me, its on them if it comes back on them, not my fault if it comes back on them.
given i dont sell drugs and dont plan on starting
 
I personally don't introduce people to other drugs unless they ask and plan on trying the substance anyways. I honestly don't see a big deal with offering drugs though. If someone offered me drugs and I accepted, nobody else is to blame for that choice but me. Although it's the person being offered responsible, trying to force a drug on somebody clearly hesitant and wants no part of it is a dick move
 
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