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Stimulants How do people become addicted to amp and methamp when physical symptoms are so harsh?

Answered your own Q "How-do-people-become-addicted-to-amp-and-methamp-when-physical-symptoms-are-so-harsh"???

The fuckin physical symptoms? shit!!???!..Amphetamines will fry your brain like fuckin waffle house!! ...Keep fuckin aroun and you're ass will end up in the fuckin chicken hatch!! There's a fine line between "Heightened perception" and psychosis....You cross a line....Most times when I was sleep deprived and startin to lose it, I knew better than to go out in the world....You're basically in a waking dream....Usually, by the end of day three....
The only truly productive days for me are 1 and two....even then, you're fuckin around with you whole dopamine norepinephirepiriner shit when you take any of these drugs....
I lost it once from a 2 month meth binge and ended up in the fuckin psych ward...it's not as far off as it may sound kids.....!

Also, dexedrine(dextroamphetamine) is the best one out there....addies are dirty...ritalin dirtier...I like it better than meth

If you stay hydrated, take showers, eat soup and toast....it goes a long way.......
Dehydration is the killer!!
 
Adderall and street amphetamine are equally potent. Street amphetamine and street methamphetamine are not the same thing. Adderall is ~75% dextroamphetamine and the rest levoamphetamine. As the poster above me stated, Dexedrine is 100% dextroamphetamine is considered better by most people. Some people like Adderall or racemic amphetamine (50% levo/50% dextro) better. Depends on personal taste.

Street amphetamine is generally racemic and therefore slightly less potent than Adderall. Methamphetamine can either be racemic, all dextromethamphetamine or somewhere in between. Levomethamphetamine is not CNS active.
 
I used to take a lot of adderall which I know isn't as strong as street amps. I remember how bad the comedowns where, especially the physical symptoms. Now most people addicted to stims are addicted to the euphoria they cause am I right? Well the euphoria goes away after a short while and all you get is bad side effects. Every redose after that just worsens and prolongs these effects while not giving you anything "good".

After a while, everything that made you love this drug disappears/or is severely decreased. Why don't people just stop using for a while? I understand other drugs like with opiates and how every re-dose gives you more euphoria/sedation. Its a chain of positive reinforcement where as stims give you a chain of negative reinforcement after the initial highs. Not too mention how hard staying awake days on end is on your brain/body. Can anyone give me their experience/insight on this? Thanks

And this is exactly why drugs like this are seen as so evil and adicting...lol even though there are so many side effects and a horrible comedown, for some reason you just go back.
 
1. Intense dopamine release from a recreational dosage of amps
2. Dopamine autoxidation from massive, uncontrolled dopamine release from the rec. dose of amps, which literally curls back the dopamine receptors and kills them off
3. You have less dopamine receptors due to meth abuse, leading to natural anhedonia and dysthmia
4. You take more amphetamine to fill in the dopamine gap that is only getting worse and worse the more you abuse amps

Vicious cycle, meth is not to be fucked with, imo
 
1. Intense dopamine release from a recreational dosage of amps
2. Dopamine autoxidation from massive, uncontrolled dopamine release from the rec. dose of amps, which literally curls back the dopamine receptors and kills them off
3. You have less dopamine receptors due to meth abuse, leading to natural anhedonia and dysthmia
4. You take more amphetamine to fill in the dopamine gap that is only getting worse and worse the more you abuse amps

Vicious cycle, meth is not to be fucked with, imo

i agree wholeheartedly, i regret ever trying it.
 
Doesn't it just get tiresome? I can't even go 3 days in a row w/ addy before therapeutic and rec. effects go away and it just makes me depressed and anxious as shit. I can't imagine how bad continuous doses of meth would be. My bad, I was under the impression that street amp was slightly stronger than pharm amps.

I have a chance to change from adderall to dexedrine for the first time (seems docs are so reluctant to prescribe it for some reason). I've heard that the crash is less pronounced and easier to deal w/ but I have tried Vyvanse and didn't like it (short duration, not much focus compared to adderall, comedown was just as bad too). I'm thinking that dextroamp won't be any different than Vyvanse, am I right or wrong here? If I don't like it I will have to wait a month before I can get back on adderall so I don't know if it's worth it. Plus, an instant release dex will have harsher side effects than Vyvanse right?
 
Doesn't it just get tiresome? I can't even go 3 days in a row w/ addy before therapeutic and rec. effects go away and it just makes me depressed and anxious as shit. I can't imagine how bad continuous doses of meth would be. My bad, I was under the impression that street amp was slightly stronger than pharm amps.

I have a chance to change from adderall to dexedrine for the first time (seems docs are so reluctant to prescribe it for some reason). I've heard that the crash is less pronounced and easier to deal w/ but I have tried Vyvanse and didn't like it (short duration, not much focus compared to adderall, comedown was just as bad too). I'm thinking that dextroamp won't be any different than Vyvanse, am I right or wrong here? If I don't like it I will have to wait a month before I can get back on adderall so I don't know if it's worth it. Plus, an instant release dex will have harsher side effects than Vyvanse right?

when you redose meth, its different than redosing normal amphetamines. if you redose consistently, you wont get tired until you run out, which could be in 3 days or a week. however psychosis will start developing at around the 4th or 5th day, possibly later or earlier depending on the ROA, dosage, and frequency of doses, as well as the users brain chemistry.

however, i do get what your saying, and i agree, after being spun for a day or two, all you want to do is go back to feeling normal, but it takes another day without much rest or food until you are able to sleep and restore your body and mind so that you can feel good again. and even then, if you probably will end up going to score more so thhat the crash will go away.

and d-amp is better than vyvanse IMO, but your description of vyvanse was exactly the opposite of how i viewed it. try dexedrine, its cleaner than adderall and kicks you in the ass more than vyvanse. IR dex will have harsher side effects than vyvanse, but i think that when you tried vyvanse, it was either not vyvanse, or your body chemistry was ina state where your experience was altered (extra enzymes may have broken the vyvanse down more rapidly, causing a high dose of d-amp to be rapidly absorbed by your system, causing negative effects and such). i would give dexedrine tablets a try, they are IMO/E the best ADD drug aside from desoxyn.
 
I'm with you OP. I never ever ever redosed any stimulant. Well I've done it once and since then will never do it again as I dread the comedown from any stimulant as is. It may be because I'm more prone to anxiety but i still dont think I would redose.

Also, once i take a stim I wont feel like taking any again for at least a few weeks. I cant even imagine taking a stimulant daily, it would be a form of torture to me.

This. I love stims and they actually helped me a bit with some depression issues by putting things into perspective and it carries on even when I'm sober. Even then I can only do them a few times a year and any more would just be torture to me. Is there an opposite of euphoric recall? :p I just remember the crash more than the good feelings, same with MDMA. Don't get me wrong, I love it but I have no need to do it more than 5 times a year otherwise anxiety on the comedowns cripple me to doing stupid shit.
 
A month or 2 ago I had 2 50mg Vyvanse (I checked online they were legit) and decided to empty the powder out both caps and parachute it. This shouldn't have affected absorption bc it is a prodrug and only a small amount gets released at a time. I guess dex is worth a try, I only hear good things about it.
 
Yeah, I agree BFOTD.....If you wanna get straight wacked, do meth.....If you wanna experience amphetamines "as God intended them to be", do the dex.....It's the cleanest amp out there IMO....You can do 3 times the amount of D-amp, without the harsh side effects as opposed to adderall....I feel like adderall was a fuckin conspiracy to prevent people from having good amps!!.....crazy?!
I dunno!......
But the dex will eventually do the same thing to your body and mind if you keep screwin around with it!
It's unnatural, straight up!....Occasional use you can get away with...but if you wanna go deep into these ampthetamines/stimulants....something;s gonna give, eventually!
But, the government spends hundreds of billions on the one end, "chasing meth labs!"....While you can go to a doctor and get prescribed the same fuckin thing!!!
The publics clueless!!!
 
It's always astonished me that people can do multiple week runs...IV meth is my favourite drug, hands down, but once it gets past the 48 hour mark the returns are very diminishing and I end up wanting to eat and sleep. Although this is also somewhat dictated by how expensive the stuff is here in Australia...perhaps if I had a constant cheap supply I would be doing 7 day runs of insanity. It's probably a good thing that's not feasible.
 
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