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How do casual users 'know their source'?

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sj227

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Ok thought i would re-word my latest topic/thread.

A bit of backgroud. I am a professional who uses MDXX etc occasionally, probably about 6 - 8 times per year. Although now i virtually never do it as the quality is so bad.

My question is how do casual users get to know their source? In my experience if your not buying regularly or 'in the scene' then it is unlikely you are going to find someone who is honest or whom can be trusted, especailly if your friends are casual users also.

As someone who is only in the market a few times a year, it is hard to get connected with the right people, and find those who can be trusted. Myself for eg would try other substances (4mmc etc) but cannot find someone who is willing to provide actual info on what they are selling.

Please note this thread is not for bitching about dealers, it is about tips/stories etc as to how to get to know your source
 
From my own experience, I only know my sources from hanging around on the scene. As far as I see that's probably the only way to do it - unless your old friends some uni are synthesising in their garages...
 
I think that this thread may be closed soon..

Seems a little too close to sourcing..

Bluelight is here to minimalise harm, not to help you score...
 
Ash,

It's not designed to source. Its a genuine HR thread designed to encourage casual users to know their source and not be sold substances as what they are not.
 
I kind of have to agree with ashstorm, this thread is bordering too close to sourcing and doesn't really gel with the harm minimisation theme of the forum. It's all about who you know...
 
I think it will get closed aswell, it sounds like finding the best way to find good sources.
In my opinion luck definately has a big role.

But without any luck the best way is just to cut any bad dealers out as soon as they do something dodgey. And the good ones you meet, be good customers. Don't waste their time or fuck them around, make their life easy and they will treat you right.
 
pillreports is a good website :)

getting your own reagent tester is def the key

don't just get the one. better off getting both mandeline and marquies, and if u wana be real safe get all 5 :)

test your pills. test it infront of your dealer before buying.
etc etc etc :)
 
I suppose it depends on context. If you're a regular in a certain music scene, then eventually you'll get to know people, and get to know who is/isn't trustworthy, built a repoire with your dealer, so it's someone you know and trust even if you don't buy off them that often.

Otherwise you'll generally have to wing it and hope for the bes.

You're right though in that these days you're better off not wasting your money.
 
I suppose it depends on context. If you're a regular in a certain music scene, then eventually you'll get to know people, and get to know who is/isn't trustworthy, built a repoire with your dealer, so it's someone you know and trust even if you don't buy off them that often.

Otherwise you'll generally have to wing it and hope for the bes.

You're right though in that these days you're better off not wasting your money.

This is my point, how does someone who only purchases/uses infrequently come to know someone when they are not in 'the scene'

pillreports is a good website :)

getting your own reagent tester is def the key

don't just get the one. better off getting both mandeline and marquies, and if u wana be real safe get all 5 :)

test your pills. test it infront of your dealer before buying.
etc etc etc :)

Very good points, i think a problem a lot of causual users have/had is they do not buy beforehand. I know i used to only buy at the clubs when quality wasn't an issue.

it is about tips/stories etc as to how to get to know your source = Sourcing?

Ok perhaps i should have replaced the word 'know' with the word 'trust' (mods can you change this please?)
 
do some networking brah.

it's worth a little bit of effort here & there to know you're being taken care of.

but in this climate you're wasting your time anyhow. better to save up for a holiday overseas where the real drugs be plentiful and affordable :)
 
I know that there have been a few comments here about sj227's comments being closely related to sourcing, but hell guys, lets remember that BL is not just about people who use regularly and know there source, it is about greenlighters and also bluelighters who are not regular users.
The comment is often thrown about "KNOW YOUR SOURCE", but lets not be arrogant about "if your in the scene enough, you will get contacts" or "its all about who you know"

If people are irregular users, lets put the harm minimisation points across, it has been raised, about tester kits and this is good advice. Testing in front of the dealer????? How often does this really happen, especially if you are a random with no relationship with the person you are buying from.

sj227, the clear advice was a couple of post above. Get a tester kit
How do you buy safe??? well in this climate, if you are an irregular buyer then then there is no safe way to purchase, but with a tester kit, there can be a "safer" way to consume.

My advice for an irregular user is to plan ahead, buy well before you use, so you can test and investigate your purchase to find as many reports as possible to "try" to know what you are swallowing.
 
There were so many crap pills around a while ago I just stopped buying them.

I had been hoping for the chance to smoke some nice gear again one day so just mentioned to a friend who was out and about a lot to keep an eye out for me. It took maybe over a month but eventually he hooked me up.. and has been for too long now doh! Trust this guy totally and glad Im removed from dodgy deals

Pill Reports stopped me from buying some Pipez recently. Find out what they are called and look them up, unless you do have the balls to test before you buy.. like said above rarely happens, it saves your $$
 
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I know people are saying this is too close to sourcing, but if you happen to be a 20 yo girl who likes to party (not that I am unfortunatley) I think its important they go about the actual purchase as safely as they can.

How to do that is pretty hard to answer, but the way I go about things has me travelling a small distance, to a trusted and careful person
 
Yeah this is about sourcing no other way about it.. OP what you are looking for doesnt exist. You cant cheat in any personal bussiness network. You need to invest time and or effort...

Closed
 
Thanks Sykik

I kind of have to agree with ashstorm, this thread is bordering too close to sourcing and doesn't really gel with the harm minimisation theme of the forum. It's all about who you know...

My thoughts exactly

I know people are saying this is too close to sourcing, but if you happen to be a 20 yo girl who likes to party (not that I am unfortunatley) I think its important they go about the actual purchase as safely as they can.

But that's not going to change by asking people how they find a reliable source. Each situation can be unique - many factors to consider, including location. Equally important to remember is that what's considered a "good pill" by a dealer may simply come down to a subjective comparison, relative to the current market e.g. years ago a med-high mdma only pill was what most "reliable" dealers would provide. Nowadays, any pill with MDMA in it is desirable, and so is often presented as a good pill.


An officially endorsed early warning system incorporating accredited analyses, would by far be the best approach to minimising the risks involved with buying illicit drugs. While it wouldn't eliminate the problem entirely - there will always be some risk involved due to copycats, inconsistencies, lack of QC, etc. - it would be miles above what we have now, and that includes any sales pitch from a "good dealer"



When all is said and done, meeting a "good dealer" depends on your social circles, the places you frequent, perhaps aspects of your personality, and luck.
 
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