How common is incest?

[Monkeybizness]

^^ grand pa? Old? Ewwwwww

 

[bunt]

Your mum and sister probably are probably just interested in cocks in general. It doesn't necessarily mean they want to fuck you.

 

[Unbreakable]

my mate who is absoloute slut fucks her grandad (well step grandad - not blood related)

She fucks him because he buys her weed all the time, clothes and stuff.

Shes only 17 but she is so wrong in the head she thinks I dont realise what's going on but I know full well she's fucking him as I see the way he is around her.

if she was smart she get proof of this.... than blackmail the sick fucker for Life and never have to fuck him ever & still get whatever she wants...

My American 5 cents

 

[alterego.shadow]

By the way the OP worded his first post, you can tell he's just describing his fantasy.

 

[jonnynapalm]

well it would depend on what town you're from

i've been through some places where incest seems to be a requirement, fashionable even

but more seriously yes its wrong, very very wrong

i'm sure it happens behind closed doors alot more than we'd like to think though

 

[bighooter]

if she was smart she get proof of this.... than blackmail the sick fucker for Life and never have to fuck him ever & still get whatever she wants...

My American 5 cents

this girl is 17 and i know for a fact she has slept with at least 50 people thats all the ones i know about and can name.

So considering how many other people she must of fucked who i dont know about id say its near the 100+ mark.... no shit either

This girl probably gets off on the fact that shes fucking her grandad, seriously shes the most mentally disturbed girl ive ever seen.

Shes reasonably sexy, is more like a boy (shes bi) so gets on very easy with boys hence why she has fucked so many people, everyone thinks shes amazing when they first meet her, but she tells so many lies it is beyond a joke and ALWAYS has to be the centre of attention otherwise gets jealous and throws a hissy fit.

WORDS CANNOT DESCRIBE HOW MESSED UP HER HEAD IS, btw she also has a chronic canabis addiction.

o yeh and was raped as a baby, raped by some other bloke when she was 10, raped by some black bloke at 14 and allegedlly she says her brother raped her aswell.

 

[AmorRoark]

Being raped once alone could make one incredibly mentally disturbed, let alone FOUR TIMES? Clearly your friend needs help. Is there any way you could suggest directing her to some free clinics? I know that's a crazy tough situation.

 

[bighooter]

Being raped once alone could make one incredibly mentally disturbed, let alone FOUR TIMES? Clearly your friend needs help. Is there any way you could suggest directing her to some free clinics? I know that's a crazy tough situation.

shes got a councellor and from what she tells me she is schizophrenic however she wont take any medication as she says itll turn her into a zombie.
- This is why she smokes lots of canabis as this is like her medication basically, shes fine when shes stoned but when shes sober she is completely psychotic.
- Considering what shes been through I would of thought it would of made her the opposite of a slag, but ive never met any girl who likes/thinks about sex as much as her. she is a nympho who will fuck anyone she meets quite literally
- every mate i know who knows her has fucked her

 

[LoveAlways]

My best friend from hs was kinda like that (she passed away a few years ago) she was raped as a child by a neighbor and she thought possibly by her grandfather when she was a baby or toddler (but didnt know for sure) then when she was older by a kid at school. i found out after i caught her getting with a guy i liked, she was my best friend, i was like "how could you?" but when she explained her past and how she couldn't say no to anyone i understood. she tried really hard to be "normal" have a normal relationship with a guy, but she would always cheat. she was super hot and just had this super sexy air about her. every guy wanted her. also she had a heart condition that made her unable to have children, she could get pregnant but if she carried the baby even to the 2nd trimester both would have died. she got pregnant 6 times in the years that i knew her (and a lot more before i knew her) it was really heartbreaking.

 

[LoveAlways]

but back to the OP's original question, how common IS incest??? I have certainly had slutty times in my life (but i am able to control it) and soooo many people (too many to count) have assumed that i was molested when i was younger. I dont remember any instances, but those who have been through it have commented that i have all the symptoms...

also....ugh this is really hard to say or even think about but i get this gross icky feeling about my father-in-law i dont feel comfortable leaving him alone with my daughter but i have never been able to explain why, its just a feeling. i have never said anything to my husband, as his dad is the apple of his eye. i just try to find ways to not ever need him to babysit (which is really difficult as he is the only family near us!) my husband has gotten angry and offended every time its obvious that i just dont want him alone with her, but i cant bring myself to tell him why...does anyone know any clues to look for in my daughter or my father-in-law?? I've been able to keep him from being alone with her for the past year or more. i even had a dream one time that he was doing stuff to her and his gf was in on it (she didnt do anything but she knew about it) and they were discussing how they had to keep it a secret and blahblah maybe it was my own paranoiah (sp?) that brought that dream on, but idk the guy is just creepy plus my daughter might possibly have a genetic disorder kind of like down syndrome u know how those kids are just so sweet? well she doesnt look any different than other kids but she is behind developentally (not sure if mentally) and is like the sweetest cuddliest little girl its wonderful but at the same time dangerous IMO bc she will let total strangers hold her and she will hug them and be so cuddly and cute with ANYONE she is young now so we are always with her and watching who she is with but when she is school age or old enough to go to friends houses etc my husband and i are worried, like he said "some pedofile is going to think she is asking for it"....ugh BL thnx for letting me get this off my chest, sometimes i tell u too much

 

[lasthurrah19]

Hi LoveAlways,

I think it is important to honor your feeling, your gut. Someone once told me that one should always follow their gut if it's telling them something is shady, and to reconsider everything that seems good, not in a cynical way but basically that "negative" gut feelings IMO carry more weight than the other way. It's entirely possible if not probable that you are being paranoid and over protective - at the same time it is your choice whom you let watch your child or have any interaction with her at all.

I do feel for you, I have a parent that I would never let be alone with any child if I could help it, and this worries me about when/if I have children... But anyway, this is your call and it's better to be cautious. Best wishes.

 

[Belisarius]

I don't get strong hunches very often, but I trust them unequivocally; not one has ever gotten me into rather than out of trouble. As the old saying goes, you can never get burned for the deal you don't make.

 

[lasthurrah19]

^^^ Thanks, that's what I was going for there

 

[kkgb1035]

not very common i hope

 

[†∆†]

yeah honestly there is no way this is normal, run away as fast as u can

 

[tomber]

By the way the OP worded his first post, you can tell he's just describing his fantasy.

There were quite a few idiotic posts for such a serious question but this was the worst. What a stupid comment.

izzy =], thanks to you too, ur kindness made my night, i always appreciate that kind of friendliness from a stranger. for the record ur first post kinda did make me feel a little uneasy but um yeah, thanks ;].

um hey, sorry that it took so long for me to get back to u guys, i was kinda avoiding this thread n idno why.

to clear some things up, when she has touched my thigh, it was middle to upper thigh and it has happened a handful of times and i've felt uncomftorable during each incident. um as of late i've been trying to define my sexual boundaries with her more, not verbally at all but as of a month ago when she would place her hand where i felt inappropriate, i would immediately grab her hand and remove it, i would also outwardly change my mood to something noticable.

i still cant be sure if when she flashed me if it was intentional or not, she was a coke head back then and something wierd could have easily been going through her head though i should admit she has always been a relatively good mother and my point of this was not to bash her. she did manipulate my emotions alot when i was younger - kinda still does - and i dont think i trust her enough to address this issue. i still feel like since i was going through some extreme changes around when it occured, i dont think i could have possibly mustered anything up from "eek" to "ew mom thats gross", i just couldnt have, i had just barely started masturbating and looking at vaginas in that fashion and i was utterly shocked. i have a theory that this incident kinda messed me up in the sense of social/sexual boundaries but its all speculation n i think im just wierd.

nudity certainly is not commonplace in my household or atleast not to me, my mom will notify me that she is getting changed when im around so i can cover my eyes, yes i still do that.

my sister is a bit older than me, though only 5 years i suppose it could still be awkward because of that age thing. i still think my sister was checking me out, i dont have much of a doubt about it. lately when i see her looking at me in that way i just give her a dirty look and walk away. i think she has been getting the hint although her eyes do tend to wander still. i do have a lock on my door but i always get a huge hassle whenever someone knocks on my door and proceeds to jiggle the handle, "why is ur door locked" or w/e.

whoever suggested move out, im only 17 for now but i plan to. i just need a job and a month and a half to turn 18

edit: to those of u kids who think im trolling, joking with this thread --- im actually very serious and i do tend to type with character, an odd tone, but what can i say im a quirky fellow. plz dont accuse me of joking about a serious matter about my life, i wouldnt joke about something like this, grow the fuck up.

What any of your families regarded as "normal" doesn't matter so much as the escalation from that point deemed normal to one deemed not normal, or sexually unwelcome. For example, about the girl who posted about having a mother who would be naked and everything was okay, that is fine as long as there is not then an escalation of sexual behavior. For your mom to continue to do that is okay. But if the OP's mom were to do that then it would NOT be okay because of the increase in sexual behavior.

The second point to consider, which proves there is some sort of issue, is that the OP does NOT feel comfortable with what is happening. That right there is enough of a problem to sit down and talk about. And he has been doing the next best thing: correcting the inappropriate touch. He removes her hand REPEATEDLY when she touches him in a "sexual" manner. An adult should know to respect sexual boundaries and touching is extremely sexual if taken as such. There is no reason for a parent to have to be repeatedly corrected about this sort of issue. Even if the touching was not intended to be sexual in any way the actions should still be discontinued by any reasonable parent.

At this point I am wondering what is up because what I have on my mind mind right now is the fact that the minor has/is repeatedly corrected unwelcome touching. (Unwelcome touching=inappropriate touching after multiple occurrences). The second major point in this that strikes me as a red flag is the emotional manipulation point. This is how female sexual adults prey on minors. Because a male can much more easily force himself into/onto a smaller female people tend to think that only through force does this stuff happen. It doesn't work like that. Female mothers will "seduce" the male child into sex through emotional manipulation in a way equivalent to a male forcing himself upon a female. So males=force, female=manipulation. (Don't believe me? look it up in any sexual abuse resource).

So right now there are at least three major red flags, all of which by themselves would warrant further inspection: 1) repeated inappropriate touching, 2) emotional manipulation, 3) the suspicion of sexual advances.

Sexual advances within the family is a very difficult thing to acknowledge so if that guy is feeling it I say talk to your councilor about it. Talk to someone. I would give approximate stats as to how often this shit occurs but because of its shady nature it often goes unreported. It is safe to say it happens VERY often. Please ignore the uninformed who comment about it being acceptable when they do not understand even the basics of sexual abuse. Goodluck man.

 

[MynameisnotDeja]

also....ugh this is really hard to say or even think about but i get this gross icky feeling about my father-in-law i dont feel comfortable leaving him alone with my daughter but i have never been able to explain why, its just a feeling. i have never said anything to my husband, as his dad is the apple of his eye. i just try to find ways to not ever need him to babysit (which is really difficult as he is the only family near us!) my husband has gotten angry and offended every time its obvious that i just dont want him alone with her, but i cant bring myself to tell him why...does anyone know any clues to look for in my daughter or my father-in-law?? I've been able to keep him from being alone with her for the past year or more. i even had a dream one time that he was doing stuff to her and his gf was in on it (she didnt do anything but she knew about it) and they were discussing how they had to keep it a secret and blahblah maybe it was my own paranoiah (sp?) that brought that dream on, but idk the guy is just creepy plus my daughter might possibly have a genetic disorder kind of like down syndrome u know how those kids are just so sweet? well she doesnt look any different than other kids but she is behind developentally (not sure if mentally) and is like the sweetest cuddliest little girl its wonderful but at the same time dangerous IMO bc she will let total strangers hold her and she will hug them and be so cuddly and cute with ANYONE she is young now so we are always with her and watching who she is with but when she is school age or old enough to go to friends houses etc my husband and i are worried, like he said "some pedofile is going to think she is asking for it"....ugh BL thnx for letting me get this off my chest, sometimes i tell u too much

My heart broke for you reading this... *hug* I am so sorry you are in that position but let me tell you something. A woman's instinct (ESPECIALLY a mother's) is strong. This does not mean that your father in law is a molester necessarily but it does mean something. I don't know what it means other than your instinct to watch your daughter carefully when she is around this man is probably a wise one. I wish I had advice of what to do, I can see why it must be incredibly hard to talk to your man about this, I can't even imagine. I'm sure he wouldn't even consider the possibility but sometimes people are blind to seeing flaws with the people closest to them.

If it were me I'd say just to try to avoid the need for a babysitter as you have been, at least until your little girl is able to clearly communicate to you how things go when she is around them. Damn girl, my heart really, really goes out to you on this one. If you ever need someone to talk to privately about this or anything else feel free to PM.

 

[Spurs_1882]

shes got a councellor and from what she tells me she is schizophrenic however she wont take any medication as she says itll turn her into a zombie.
- This is why she smokes lots of canabis as this is like her medication basically, shes fine when shes stoned but when shes sober she is completely psychotic.
- Considering what shes been through I would of thought it would of made her the opposite of a slag, but ive never met any girl who likes/thinks about sex as much as her. she is a nympho who will fuck anyone she meets quite literally
- every mate i know who knows her has fucked her

I think going through sexual abuse can cause extreme sexual reactions; obviously it can make you shy away from any sexual contact but it can also lead you to have difficulty drawing sexual boundaries. I once knew a girl who had been abused as a child who sounds similar to your friend. She was going out with my mate and found it hard not to cheat on him, she also was heavily into porn, nothing wrong with that but she even watched stuff like animal porn (she was only 15/16 at the time as well). She said that being abused led her to feel that sex was never inappropriate if you had the desire for it, whatever the circumstances. It seems sexual abuse can fuck you up in many ways, not just the obvious ones.

 

[LoveAlways]

My heart broke for you reading this... *hug* I am so sorry you are in that position but let me tell you something. A woman's instinct (ESPECIALLY a mother's) is strong. This does not mean that your father in law is a molester necessarily but it does mean something. I don't know what it means other than your instinct to watch your daughter carefully when she is around this man is probably a wise one. I wish I had advice of what to do, I can see why it must be incredibly hard to talk to your man about this, I can't even imagine. I'm sure he wouldn't even consider the possibility but sometimes people are blind to seeing flaws with the people closest to them.

If it were me I'd say just to try to avoid the need for a babysitter as you have been, at least until your little girl is able to clearly communicate to you how things go when she is around them. Damn girl, my heart really, really goes out to you on this one. If you ever need someone to talk to privately about this or anything else feel free to PM.

^^Thank you

Good news, one of my best friends from Chicago is coming to live with us as a permanent nanny so I dont need my father in law to watch the kids anymore! Although I did notice he kind of stopped wanting to watch them after my son was born and his (estranged) daughter moved to the island so its actually been a while since he's been alone with the kids. thanks for your support though!!!

 

[MynameisnotDeja]

Awesome news!