How come it seems like every mod here has a stick up their ass?

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dokomo said:
So many posters take it as some kind of personal slight when their thread is closed or moved and there is simply no reason to feel this way. We're just trying to keep things on topic and efficient in the forum. If you think we've made a mistake, or misunderstood the thread and its purpose PLEASE PM us. We're always glad to talk with you about it, and are more than willing to reopen a thread if we've made a mistake.
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This is absolutely true. I know I closed a couple threads and then received a PM asking me very nicely to reopen it, with reasons justifying why. None of us mind getting PMs, if the reason is valid we will definitely consider it. I generally give a reason as the last post of the thread with some detail as to why I closed it --- seriously, if anyone feels I made a mistake, I urge that they PM me. That's how I can learn and moderate even better.

sveets said:
I don't really know what your problems are in your life, but it seems like you lash out your anger over the internet. Your a negative person and it shows.
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I don't appreciate this comment, sveets. CH spends a lot of time and energy contributing to BL, and certainly does not come off as angry. Plus:

New said:
^You're honestly complaining about his tone when you created a thread with the title "How come it seems like every mod here has a stick up their ass?"
I don't think I could construct a more confrontational thread title if you paid me.
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New is absolutely right, you are coming off as lashing out your anger over the internet.


I didn't chime in on this thread for a while, but I've been watching it. Moderating an online forum helps people to volunteer their time towards something they care about --- clearly BL isn't something we can really put on a job application ever, and we are here to enforce the guidelines and keep the atmosphere pleasant and non offensive for the members. We also contribute --- generally anyone with a "mod" title is assumed to know what they are talking about, and I contribute lots outside of my own forum...because I'm interested, and because I care. Mods are just BLers who help keep the forum on topic and following the rules.

And on an ending note, I happen to like my modstick up my ass, just like my grammar/spelling/etc stick that often competes for a place up there.
 
purple_cloud said:
And on an ending note, I happen to like my modstick up my ass, just like my grammar/spelling/etc stick that often competes for a place up there.
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Thats where the handbook says to keep it iirc
 
sveets said:
The first post you made in this thread just screams "i am an asshole".
So that's one thing you've done recently..
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Mate????

Sveets?

What are you chatting about sunshine?

You are self projecting.

Why do you need to revert to calling anyone a generic, simple, expletive like "asshole"?

I think anyone who fails to articulate their opinions succinctly and accurately, fails to maintain and justify their point of view, resorts to common insults, and fails to be respectful or ethically sound, is someone who ought not to bother posting at all.

essentially an oxygen theif.

Nobody's perfect.

But Cap'n H is sound.
 
abracadabra girl said:
I don't know about sticks up their asses but I also get frustrated when threads are closed.
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yet you've never reported a closed post and made a case for it to be reopened.

in my experience, the staff are very open to reconsidering a thread closure when a case is made using the appropriate channel. if people can't or won't use the systems we have in place to handle this kind of issue, it's a non-issue for me.

part of the solution or part of the problem?

:)

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
yet you've never reported a closed post and made a case for it to be reopened.

in my experience, the staff are very open to reconsidering a thread closure when a case is made using the appropriate channel. if people can't or won't use the systems we have in place to handle this kind of issue, it's a non-issue for me.

part of the solution or part of the problem?

:)

alasdair
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I did PM the mod who closed one of my threads and explained my feelings, but I did not and would not ask for a thread to be re-opened. That seems very disrespectful of the mod's decision. Perhaps if it's a grey area, the mod should not be so quick to close threads and then reopen them, but should wait and see where the thread goes first.

As for reporting someone else's thread that was closed, that seems even more disrespectful. I might PM the OP and answer their question if the thread didn't answer it, and express my sympathy and my agreement that it was a good thread, but once again I would not PM the mod and argue with them about it.
 
abracadabra girl said:
...I did not and would not ask for a thread to be re-opened. That seems very disrespectful of the mod's decision.
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you can't have you cake and eat it.
abracadabra girl said:
As for reporting someone else's thread that was closed, that seems even more disrespectful.
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in that case you misunderstand the reporting system. it's entirely respectful to report a thread for this reason. a report does not always precipitate action. it's simply a mechanism for bringing a thread - or your views on a moderators action regarding a thread - to the attention of the forum staff.

if you disagree with a thread closure, report it and make your case. this is specific action which will often generate a result. complaining about thread closure in a generalised way in this forum is a less effective method.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
if you disagree with a thread closure, report it and make your case. this is specific action which will often generate a result. complaining about thread closure in a generalised way in this forum is a less effective method.

alasdair
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I guess it all depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Rather than a thread-by-thread appeal process, I'd rather see a general reduction of mod strictness. Don't close a thread if there's any possibility it could be reopened. Only close threads which are specifically against the rules and would never be reopened no matter what case is made.
 
^There are many good reasons to temporarily close a thread in my opinion. One is to let a feud cool down. Another is to seek consensus from other mods and Sr Staff about what is allowed and what isn't. Closing a thread to clean it up is another. In very personal threads in places like TDS and SLR a thread might be closed until a mod hears back from the OP who has been absent and the thread has been running way ahead of the scope set out by the OP.

Very often a moderator will stay with a complicated, hard to moderate thread for the sake of the OP but when the OP isn't showing interest any more there isn't a reason for it to stay open, unless the OP makes contact that they want it kept open. Some threads are closed by the request of the OP and a mod isn't necessarily going to disclose the OP requested it closed.

It isn't just about rule breaking that threads get closed. In many forums a thread has to be productive towards some end. If everybody is talking to themselves, if the thread is running in a non-HR theme, if a thread is just an expression of contempt, or is an oft repeated topic that never leads anywhere, if an OP is inclined to open a new thread every time he has a stray thought or scratches an itch--Those are all good reasons to close threads in my opinion.

There isn't enough time to write a rule for every situation that can warrant a thread closing. Mods are going to err on this on occasion or not necessarily realize the potential good in every thread. That's part of why we encourage members to go ahead and PM or report and feel free to make a case for reopening.
 
>mfw all mods back in my day were trolls and you are complaining about boring thread closing modfags of today

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I was just thinking that this is something that Slay would LOVE to be on......and then I come and Guido is droppin 'modfag' lols
 
I guess it all depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Rather than a thread-by-thread appeal process, I'd rather see a general reduction of mod strictness. Don't close a thread if there's any possibility it could be reopened. Only close threads which are specifically against the rules and would never be reopened no matter what case is made.
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Why should we do that? People are always starting stupid threads that aren't against the rules as such but which are of no value whatsoever. It's not exactly hard for us to re-open a thread if there's a good reason, shoot us a PM and we'll consider it. I've re-opened threads in the past. How can we be expected to consider every possible argument for opening a thread before closing it?
 
This thread has gone past its useful shelf life imo so with a twitch of my sphincter *closed*

The first post and poster's response to it set up a romper room atmosphere. I'm not willing to spend a lot of time in patrolling lulzy posts that are suited to a playful social forum like the lounge but are not suitable for support.

Feel free to PM me or fizzle if you want to make a case for reopening it.
 
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