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How close is USA to legalization?

let's all start some cannabis cartel-type shit that rivals prohibition-era Mafia in terms of violence and power.

bet we'd see some progress towards legalization then.




seriously, though, i don't think pot will be ever be legalized all across the US. i think legal MMJ is already sweeping the nation, though, and, realistically, within a decade and a half i think either every state will have their own legislature concerning medical weed or the federal government will get to law-making and have it legalized.

nation-wide decriminalization of weed (not medical, just habitual) is a lot further off then MMJ-legalization, though...all these non-violent drug offenders behind bars and paying fines and doing community service keeps the government too well paid for them to just cut that source of funding free.
 
it would help the economy in some ways if it was legalized but also hurt police forces since they make a lot of money on drug busts from all the fines people have to pay and they pay the courts also so i mean its a win lose semi if you think about it. but it would be good to legalize it anyway.
 
I would estimate that cannabis will be decriminalized in most states by 2020. I don't believe it will be legal at the federal level for at least another two generations unless something unforeseen happens.
 
Never, we are about to experience some truths unfold as this era ends though.
 
well shit im surprised at the overwhelming number of conservative predictions. when i read the responses i get this feeling that your predictions are when some of you want legalization. or that the responses are conservative so you all dont feel like your some sort of 'radical' or 'left wing nutbag' or foolish idealist

the apathy in this thread is sickening. sure it wont happen overnight but what the hell kind of momentum is a movement supposed to have when the people supporting it dont think that it has any chance or doubt the legitimacy of the issue.

look how quickly the mainstream has picked this up, who would have predicted that last month or whenever the mainstream would do such a thing? i bet every1 would be like, 5-10 years if ever!

lets have some hope and motivation here, im not a criminal despite our legislature and i dont think you guys are either and this is the only point that need be discussed imo.

i am not a crook (couldnt resist)
 
the apathy in this thread is sickening. sure it wont happen overnight but what the hell kind of momentum is a movement supposed to have when the people supporting it dont think that it has any chance or doubt the legitimacy of the issue.


hasn't this movement been trying to gain momentum for a generation or two?

the problem is that the people support the cause, but the politicians don't. Democracy at it's finest, eh?
 
rehab is for quitters!
well shit im surprised at the overwhelming number of conservative predictions. when i read the responses i get this feeling that your predictions are when some of you want legalization. or that the responses are conservative so you all dont feel like your some sort of 'radical' or 'left wing nutbag' or foolish idealist

the apathy in this thread is sickening. sure it wont happen overnight but what the hell kind of momentum is a movement supposed to have when the people supporting it dont think that it has any chance or doubt the legitimacy of the issue.

look how quickly the mainstream has picked this up, who would have predicted that last month or whenever the mainstream would do such a thing? i bet every1 would be like, 5-10 years if ever!

lets have some hope and motivation here, im not a criminal despite our legislature and i dont think you guys are either and this is the only point that need be discussed imo.

i am not a crook (couldnt resist)
agreed: people can make a difference if they bitch enough to make a difference but never if they give up before the start. The gov. is great at keeping the population in its box.
 
We have a voice. I think if some people would stop smoking and just sitting and waiting for people to do something we could have this change soon. Politicians may have a lot of power, but the people of this country have the most when they unite. Education is spreading fast through the internet. If people decide to act now we could see change very soon.
 
We have a voice. I think if some people would stop smoking and just sitting and waiting for people to do something we could have this change soon. Politicians may have a lot of power, but the people of this country have the most when they unite. Education is spreading fast through the internet. If people decide to act now we could see change very soon.

took the words right out of my mouth
 
i've handed out over 80 dvd's so far of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjhT9282-Tw & i even hear that some highly political figures have looked into the facts and jumped on the advocate vote in my small town since. It will take grassroots community movements similar to this for legalization to occur. The ball has started rolling thanks to the media its up to the people to screeaaam! We the people have the power to help force the obamas commision's in acting upon the issue first term. Its up to the people to spread the word which would ensure rescheduling, decriminilation, medical legalization and ultimately legalization. watch the above video, burn DVDs and hand them out to free. They've made their way many places already. Usually with the dvd i include a copy of the harvard study seen below

cienceDaily (Apr. 17, 2007) — The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies.
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Health & Medicine

* Lung Cancer
* Lung Disease
* Cancer

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* Mice
* Molecular Biology
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* Metastasis
* Tumor suppressor gene
* Tumor
* Heat shock protein

They say this is the first set of experiments to show that the compound, Delta-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), inhibits EGF-induced growth and migration in epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR) expressing non-small cell lung cancer cell lines. Lung cancers that over-express EGFR are usually highly aggressive and resistant to chemotherapy.

THC that targets cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2 is similar in function to endocannabinoids, which are cannabinoids that are naturally produced in the body and activate these receptors. The researchers suggest that THC or other designer agents that activate these receptors might be used in a targeted fashion to treat lung cancer.

"The beauty of this study is that we are showing that a substance of abuse, if used prudently, may offer a new road to therapy against lung cancer," said Anju Preet, Ph.D., a researcher in the Division of Experimental Medicine.

Acting through cannabinoid receptors CB1 and CB2, endocannabinoids (as well as THC) are thought to play a role in variety of biological functions, including pain and anxiety control, and inflammation. Although a medical derivative of THC, known as Marinol, has been approved for use as an appetite stimulant for cancer patients, and a small number of U.S. states allow use of medical marijuana to treat the same side effect, few studies have shown that THC might have anti-tumor activity, Preet says. The only clinical trial testing THC as a treatment against cancer growth was a recently completed British pilot study in human glioblastoma.

In the present study, the researchers first demonstrated that two different lung cancer cell lines as well as patient lung tumor samples express CB1 and CB2, and that non-toxic doses of THC inhibited growth and spread in the cell lines. "When the cells are pretreated with THC, they have less EGFR stimulated invasion as measured by various in-vitro assays," Preet said.

Then, for three weeks, researchers injected standard doses of THC into mice that had been implanted with human lung cancer cells, and found that tumors were reduced in size and weight by about 50 percent in treated animals compared to a control group. There was also about a 60 percent reduction in cancer lesions on the lungs in these mice as well as a significant reduction in protein markers associated with cancer progression, Preet says.

Although the researchers do not know why THC inhibits tumor growth, they say the substance could be activating molecules that arrest the cell cycle. They speculate that THC may also interfere with angiogenesis and vascularization, which promotes cancer growth.

Preet says much work is needed to clarify the pathway by which THC functions, and cautions that some animal studies have shown that THC can stimulate some cancers. "THC offers some promise, but we have a long way to go before we know what its potential is," she said.
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For all the people saying 2-5 years, my only answer to you is LO fucking L.

I'm a pothead, I wish SO bad that you guys were right, but really, you must just be stoned because we aren't even CLOSE to 2-5 years away. Realistically federal legalization won't happen for 20-30 years, best case scenario. While I do have total faith that I will live to see it, its not happening anytime soon.

I think that obama would only let it fly during his second term, when he's got nothing to lose. So my guess is sometime between 2012-2016.

Obama is not going to do shit buddy, sorry I had to break it to you like that 8).
 
I think we should all start organizing Be-Ins for Marijuana...the Be-Ins like they had in the 60s, just a huge mass of people meeting up and hanging out in the park all day, the biggest parks in the biggest cities filled to the edge and beyond with people showing that marijuana use is not going to go away and its time the government saw the amount of ppl willing to stand up and voice their opinions.
 
I hope 10-15 years. The day I can just toke anywhere anytime will be the greatest day of my life.

FM
 
I wish like most people 2-5 years. However realistically, i believe its gonna be around 10-15 for pure legalization
 
never, criminalization of drugs is a multi billion dollar a year industry.

but if marijuana was legalized it would be taxed and sold similarly to cigarettes, and most people would buy the easier to get legal marijuana over a dealer. it would make our jails less crowded because the most common crimes are nonviolent drug related crimes, marijuana being the most used drug, and it would help our economy. there would be more benefits for legalizing it then spending more and more money on trying to stop it
 
I don't think pot will ever be legal in the USA. It might, however, be rescheduled to class II or III.
 
I think like Obama even said with the current issues surrounding N.A. like homeland security, corruption, terrorism, education, health care, worldwide recession and so on, well logically the thoughts of decriminalizing or legalizing marijuana are the last priority on their agenda.
 
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