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How can we win the war on drugs?

slimvictor

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We can win, but we need to change something more important than laws – something that will lead to changes in all of the important laws, but something deeper than law. We need to change the way that people think.

I believe that our biggest problem is with the way that the entire situation is framed, or portrayed – the perspective hidden in the words used to talk about it. The way it is talked about gives us the short end of the stick right from the beginning.

If we are going to enlighten the closed-minded to the facts that people should have the freedom to expand their own consciousness, we need to take the debate and “untwist” it. The anti-drug people have controlled the debate since Harry Ainslinger in the 1920’s, and now we need to take it back.

For instance, take the question “How can we win the war on drugs?” This question assumes that someone can “win” such a “war”, which actually seems improbable, and it’s not entirely clear what winning would even mean. It also accepts the idea of a “war on drugs”, which is similar to the “war on terror” in that it is based on the false premise that we can fight something extremely abstract. You can’t have a war on drugs, unless you fight hand-to-stalk with the marijuana plant, and it fights back. The fight is not a “war,” which is typically a fight between two nation states, but it is a governmental action carried out primarily by the police against people who grow, make, distribute, and use drugs. Drugs, unlike a typical enemy against whom one would declare war, cannot “fight back”. Of course, the powers-that-be make use of the metaphor that the “damage drugs do to society” is their “attack”, but this is merely a metaphor. It is true that drugs negatively influence some people’s lives, but they also enrich some people’s lives. We should continually highlight the good that drugs do in society in order to counter this metaphorical attack. We need to gather and publicize the stories of people whose lives change for the better due to their drug use, which can be found on Erowid, for example.

There is a huge problem with the word “drugs”. It is typically used to mean something like “the chemicals (including plants) that induce a change in consciousness but are not registered to a pharmaceutical company, and that bad people utilize for their own pleasure, excluding foods and certain chemicals that have already made their way into the mainstream.” This is very bad for our side. If you asked 100 random people for their impression of a “drug-user”, a majority would give you a negative impression – even some of those who have used drugs, since they don’t see themselves as “drug-users”. This is not just due to the propaganda about drug-users, but also due to the negativity associated with the word “drugs”.

We need to change the negative associations with the word “drugs”, but it may already be too late. If we want to try to change this, we need to show people that the border between marijuana and LSD (etc.), on the one hand, and caffeine, sugar, and Prozac (etc.), on the other, is something artificial. We need to begin by
a) showing that other chemicals are very similar to what is more commonly known as “drugs” and
b) show that what are more commonly known as “drugs” are very similar to other chemicals.
In order to achieve (a), we need to try to make it commonplace to refer to things such as Prozac, alcohol, sugar, caffeine and tobacco as “drugs”. If you hear people using other terms for them, such as “medicine” or “food” or “my daily java”, you have a chance to correct this and re-frame it. I usually make a point of bringing conversations about caffeine addiction, for example, back to here.
In order to achieve (b), we need to make it commonplace to refer to marijuana and LSD (etc.) as “medicines” (or “consciousness expanders”, or some other term that highlights the benefits of these substances, or at least “chemicals”, which highlights what they have in common with Prozac and caffeine). This is more difficult to do without letting people know that we are “drug-users” (there’s that awful term), but it is equally important. To remain safe, we can use the word “chemicals”, which doesn’t reveal us to be “drug-users” but is effective in re-framing the picture.

If we can’t create a more neutral association with the word “drugs”, we should drop it and create or borrow a new word that has no negative association. I believe that we may already be in this boat, though the tactics discussed in the paragraph above certainly won’t hurt in getting people to think about drugs differently, even if we abandon the word “drugs”.
My vote is to use the word “chemical”, which is almost guaranteed to maintain a neutral meaning because of its association with chemistry and its meaning in that field. The main problem with it is that it is not “cool”, which may make the masses resistant to using it.

We need to change the way people talk about chemicals in order to change the way that they think about them.

Chemical lovers unite – take back the fight!
 
drugs werent really an enemy in the first place this "War" created the drug dealers and shit as the enemy end the war it will be peaceful on all fronts regulated drugs no more murders over rip off drug deals no more agents getting shot or shooting somebody doing a raid. the other side wont give up drugs are here anyone can manufacture and distribute them. all the fighters against "drugs" if the backed off and things were fixed problem eliminated.
 
I've ranted on this before on another thread, so I will keep it short and sweet. Throw money at the problem. Money talks and bullshit walks. If you want to change something in America you first need the backing of some major corperations. Since the energy and pharmacutical companies are spending lots of money making sure it stays illegal and since there aren't many people spending money to make sure it is legalized it will remain illegal. If you want cannabis legal give money to NORML. Give lots of it. If every pot head contributed a week's worth of stash money to NORML every year they might have a chance.
 
I've ranted on this before on another thread, so I will keep it short and sweet. Throw money at the problem. Money talks and bullshit walks. If you want to change something in America you first need the backing of some major corperations. Since the energy and pharmacutical companies are spending lots of money making sure it stays illegal and since there aren't many people spending money to make sure it is legalized it will remain illegal. If you want cannabis legal give money to NORML. Give lots of it. If every pot head contributed a week's worth of stash money to NORML every year they might have a chance.

QFT. nothing greases the wheels like money.
 
I've ranted on this before on another thread, so I will keep it short and sweet. Throw money at the problem. Money talks and bullshit walks. If you want to change something in America you first need the backing of some major corperations. Since the energy and pharmacutical companies are spending lots of money making sure it stays illegal and since there aren't many people spending money to make sure it is legalized it will remain illegal. If you want cannabis legal give money to NORML. Give lots of it. If every pot head contributed a week's worth of stash money to NORML every year they might have a chance.

I support NORMAL..I also want that hemp back pack.

Legalize = Problem solved
 
The war on drugs doesn't really exist.

There are racial prejudices acted out through the guise of the 'war on drugs' and there is also military strikes made under the guise of the 'war on drugs' but they have surprisingly little to do with drugs. :\
 
Trial by JURY. The jury is the highest law of the land. Not the congress, not the president, not the supreme court. It is the jury.

I could murder a man in broad daylight in front of a dozen eye wittnesses who all testify at my trial that I in fact shot and killed the man unprovoked. The prosecutor could then also present as evidence a videotaped confession of me confessing to killing the person unprovoked.

If it is a jury trial, and the jury goes back to deliberate, and they come back and say "not guilty". THAT'S IT! I WALK!

So the answer is to sit on juries not avoid them. Learn about jury nullification. Remember: If the judge asks you if you are willing to convict someone if the facts prove beyond a resonable doubt that the person did the act, even if it is against your conscience to do so you say "Yes, your honor". (but in your heart you say "Fvck NO!" I am we the people. I have the right to judge fact AND LAW and I don't take instructions from my servants (i.e. judges).

All it takes is 1 out of 12 unwilling to say 'guilty' and it's a hung jury. If there is a certain law that goes to jury trial enough times and keeps coming back hung jury the prosecutor gets the message.... and stops friggin trying people for that crime.

So educate people about Jury Nullification (as well as the fact that judges and prosecutors don't want you to know about it and will dismiss you as not qualified for jury duty if you admit to knowing/believing in it) and then people need to start taking their drug cases to jury trial.

If I ever sit on a jury where someone is accused of a drug crime, unless they murdered a little kid or something, I"m voting NOT GUILTY. I could care less if they had 100 KG of crack and a machine gun in their possession. NOT GUILTY!
 
Someone needs to make a commercial about successful people who use drugs. The fastest man in the world smoked weed daily, Arnold swhartzenegger used to smoke while he worked out, a LARGE amount of pro football/basketball players have smoked, even Michael Phelps was caught smoking weed (http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/swimming/news/story?id=3876804 ) and the last two U.S presidents and the current pres. have all admitted to smoking it.

So, how can ANYONE look down upon national heros/celebrities, it obviously hasn't ruined their lifes, and they are more successful than 99.999999% of anyone in this world will ever be.

Positive propaganda would help combat it, but since the FCC controls what goes on TV, and they are funded by government, there is not a chance in the world it would ever be on.

(this situation is hypothetically in the U.S.A)
Wouldn't the common-sense reply to this information about celebrities smoking marijuana be: "Well, if they didn't smoke marijuana, imagine how much MORE they could have achieved?"
 
Trial by JURY. The jury is the highest law of the land. Not the congress, not the president, not the supreme court. It is the jury.

I could murder a man in broad daylight in front of a dozen eye wittnesses who all testify at my trial that I in fact shot and killed the man unprovoked. The prosecutor could then also present as evidence a videotaped confession of me confessing to killing the person unprovoked.

If it is a jury trial, and the jury goes back to deliberate, and they come back and say "not guilty". THAT'S IT! I WALK!

So the answer is to sit on juries not avoid them. Learn about jury nullification. Remember: If the judge asks you if you are willing to convict someone if the facts prove beyond a resonable doubt that the person did the act, even if it is against your conscience to do so you say "Yes, your honor". (but in your heart you say "Fvck NO!" I am we the people. I have the right to judge fact AND LAW and I don't take instructions from my servants (i.e. judges).

All it takes is 1 out of 12 unwilling to say 'guilty' and it's a hung jury. If there is a certain law that goes to jury trial enough times and keeps coming back hung jury the prosecutor gets the message.... and stops friggin trying people for that crime.

So educate people about Jury Nullification (as well as the fact that judges and prosecutors don't want you to know about it and will dismiss you as not qualified for jury duty if you admit to knowing/believing in it) and then people need to start taking their drug cases to jury trial.

If I ever sit on a jury where someone is accused of a drug crime, unless they murdered a little kid or something, I"m voting NOT GUILTY. I could care less if they had 100 KG of crack and a machine gun in their possession. NOT GUILTY!



indeed but almost no one knows this and even stupid defense lawyers don;t educate the jury to this at some point in the trial which could usually only serve to benefit them
 
There is a large Libertarian minded community in the US. A lot of these folks are Republicans, and they are pro-gun and anti-drug laws. Another segment of the community (a much larger one) are the working poor and petit bourgois, the people who wind up incarcerated 5-10 years for possession. Then you've got the progressives in the Democratic Party who want comprehensive, innovative state sponsored addiction treatment and an end to the 'War On Drugs'. There are a lot of people in this country from all different backgrounds and ideology who want an end to the drug war.

The first national drug laws (Harrison Act and its amendment) were tax and import/export (i.e. Commerce) laws, they were not specifically legislating whether a citizen can or cannot put chemicals in their bodies. This was true up until the Controlled Substances Act of 1970.

Eventually, we will go the way Western Europe has gone. While our drug laws will remain on the books, enforcement will go way down. No more millions of possession offenders tying up state and Federal jails/prisons, state sponsored comprehensive addiction treatment, an end to mandatory minimums, etc.

Harm reduction programs, advocacy for addiction treatment (and advocating for new treatments) and overall grassroots calls for more personal freedom, more efficient government assistance programs- overall "liberalization" is how we get to a stalemate in the war on drugs. At that point it's as good as over.

But as long as initiatives like Plan Colombia continue to pass, as long as the government gives special attention to moralists when it comes to addiction treatment (thanks again for Vivitrol, assholes), as long as Congressmen and Senators go to bat for mandatory minimums and Zero Tolerance Policies, we have a long way to go.
 
indeed but almost no one knows this and even stupid defense lawyers don;t educate the jury to this at some point in the trial which could usually only serve to benefit them


They judges don't allow that. That's why it's your and my and everyone here's responsibility to educate people about it.

That's how we win the 'war on drugs'. But if your not willing to go out of your way to educate yourself and others about their sacret right to jury nullification, and it's benefits, then maybe you don't want it bad enough...

I made my post, and my follow up post. I did my little part. If one person goes and learns about jury nullification from my post and then teaches someone else about it..... that is how the world changes.

Unless your a trillionaire your not gonna change the world except 1 person at a time..
 
Money is nice, but it's not going to do the trick unless we change people's minds.
The mass media has broadcasted government propaganda for more than a generation, and people have made up their minds.
Imagine pedophiliacs trying to gain legal support by throwing money at the problem!
It wouldn't help in any way. They would need to work on the psychology of the matter.
While pedophilia is very uncool, IMO, and drug (chemical) use is just fine, we have to think of the way the masses are seeing all this. Without changing people's thinking, money just won't do it.

The problem with the whole jury thing is that lawyers very often will ask potential jurors' opinions on drug use before they are selected to serve. If you say that you believe drug use should not be illegal, they will not select you for the jury. You would have to lie about your opinions before being selected, and later come up with some reason to believe that the defendant was not guilty, since you couldn't just say that you believed that drug use should not be a crime (since that would be contradicting your earlier statements). It is very difficult and risky to lie in court, and extremely unlikely that we could get thousands of people across the country to risk their own skins for this purpose.

I have served on two juries in my life, and I was happy to serve each time I was called. I am middle-aged, so this has been in around 2 decades of eligibility. Neither case was about drugs. This doesn't strike me as a plan that could accomplish much in the next few hundred years.
If we want to stop the craziness of the war on drugs, we need to change people's minds as soon as possible. Money will help, but only if we use it to change people's thinking.
 
I always refer to nicotine addicts, caffeine addicts and alcohol addicts as drug addicts to remind people that probably most people are drug 'addicts' or users in some form or another whether it be alcohol, DMT, nicotine, THC, PCP, television food or the internet. (i guess those last few don't TECHNICALLY count, but...) When people say well what about drinking, like it's not a drug. It's always drugs AND alcohol not just drugs. And I say, alcohol, I think it's one of the most dangerous drugs you can use. We're all in the same boat, there are probably more people addicted to LEGAL drugs than illegal ones. It's just us who prefer to use the most interesting and rewarding ones that get the short end of the stick.
 
The problem with the whole jury thing is that lawyers very often will ask potential jurors' opinions on drug use before they are selected to serve. If you say that you believe drug use should not be illegal, they will not select you for the jury. You would have to lie about your opinions before being selected, and later come up with some reason to believe that the defendant was not guilty, since you couldn't just say that you believed that drug use should not be a crime (since that would be contradicting your earlier statements).

While it is true you have to lie if they ask you about drug use or jury nullification, well I have no problem with that obviously.

Jury proceedings are sacred and private and you do not have to justify your not guilty vote. If you just keep saying I don't think he's guilty and stick to that it will be a hung jury. You don't have to contradict yourself and again I encourage people to actually educate themselves about jury nullification so they know what the fvck it's about and how to handle oneself during the jury selection process as well as in the juror deliberation room.
 
I think that if the war can be won by anti-prohibitionists at all, it will come down to a few assassinations, a revolution, or something along those lines.

The profitability of fighting this war on drugs and consequently causing incalculable suffering for people not just in America but around the world, is so sickeningly vast. Those to whom this money ultimately flows are not going to up their revenue and power without a fight, and they have far greater resources available to them than their opponents.

If there is a way to do it without bloodshed, it will be through opposition to laissez faire capitalism, education of the great unwashed about its harmfulness and its wont to lead to corporatism, fascism, and despotism, and the introduction of more socialist domestic policies. Paradoxical as that may seem to some of you, I believe it to be true. Right now, a disturbing percentage of prisons within this country are privately owned. These private owners have every incentive to lobby members of congress so that congress, obliged by their largesse, should make as many activities illegal as possible and to protract prison terms as greatly as possible. Though the population of the United States is only roughly 4% of the total population of the earth, 25% of the world's prison population resides within our prisons systems. (Dick Cheney, wouldn't you know it, owns a great deal of stock in private prison systems.)

I wouldn't mind very stringent caps on the amount of wealth any one individual could posses, either. Ultimately, this horrible situation comes down to fulfillment of greed and desire on the part of ruling elites. If you prohibit fulfillment beyond a certain extent of desire for money, then the incentive disappears for them to preserve our current draconian drug laws, unless they can find a way around these caps on capital.

Either that, or you could all use your understanding of biochemistry and the brain to devise a chemical that would cure psychopathy and promote entactogenesis in a long-term, reliable fashion, and proceed to expose those residing within Washington D.C. (and other place of course, but mainly Washinton D.C.) to it, causing them to care - probably for the first time in their lives - about the welfare of their fellow men.
 
don't worry obama's got all our backs. i read it on his blog here on BL true story
 
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