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How Can I Get Some Naloxone ?

Yes, I live with my parents due to my disability so I usually have someone around.

No, I'm not physically addicted to opiates, I found that when I have been pain-free and skipped doses for a few days I have not had any withdrawal issues.

Yes, I am taking the prescribed amount but you have to consider that I am hypersensitive so a smaller dose for me is the same as a larger dose for you. After 3 years of using I have slowly increased my dose to 16mg Oxycodone, infact the first 2 and a half years I was on 10mg but past 5 months I suddenly increased and extra 6 mg so my current dose is 16 mg oral liquid oxycodone a day.

Madmick thank you for those links I will consider it.

No I can't take suboxone because I am sensitive to all drugs that act on my Autonomic Nervous Sytem so whenever I am given a medication they give me the shortest acting one so when I have an adverse reaction I dont have to put up with the discomfort for too long, the peak effect of Oxycodone seems to be around 30 - 45 minutes for me so I usually have to put up with feeling ill for that period of time but with suboxone which has buprenorphine the peak effect is much longer as that drug lasts for ages which for me would mean I would be stuck feeling sick for way too long. This is why I never take slow release or extended release drugs.
 
Mr Blonde said:
This isn't a simple OD, if you read the original post you would see there is more to it than that.



You said naloxone isn't prescribed to people for use, yet there is no definitive proof for that and you recommended he obtain it illegally when it is probably in his best interests to have it given to him by his doctor.

The CMI for naloxone suggests that it may, perhaps, be a substance that could be prescribed and given to for necessary use.
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PBS website has it listed as being able to be prescribed by medical practitioners and nurse practitioners. I thought that it was limited to the emergency drug supplies (doctor's bag) schedule but that's apparently not the case.
 
^ What does that have to do with it being Schedule IV and able to be prescribed?

And of course, in most cases it would not be given to patients and most doctors would be highyl suspicious of someone who asked for it. But this is not a usual case, the OP is in a very unique situation.

Anyway, I'll reserve judgement on if he will or won't get it until he talks to his doctor because that's the only person who can arrange for it to happen.
 
My doctor is still away but today I saw another doctor at the same clinic as they all have acess to my history.

Unfortunately the doctor refused to prescribe naloxone. It took some convincing for him to accept that I do infact have a unique condition, at first he insisted that I should not be having adverse reactions at the dose I am taking and he assumed I was abusing the medication but I then showed him my test results from my neurologist who conducted an experiment where he gave me 10mg Oxycodone and documented my adverse reaction and changes in my vitals, I also showed him all the documents from my allergy specialist and autonomic specialist, and even though he accepted my reasoning he made excuses saying it was not a drug that can be prescribed.

I didnt want to cause a scene so I just said fine but the reality is the pbs website has it listed as a drug that can be prescribed under 3 categories: Dental, General Schedule and Emergency...

http://www.pbs.gov.au/medicine/item/3482G-1753G-5175J

I now left a message for someone to call me back from the pain managment clinic. One way or another I will find a way to get this, it will require persistence but I believe whether it can be prescribed or not is based purely on the discretion of the doctor.

I now realise my biggest mistake was not insisting for my neurologist to give me naloxone during the oxycodone allergy test he conducted on me, I remember at the time I mentioned naloxone he replied saying "someone with your sensitivity may also have complications from naloxone" but I would rather have complications then die.
 
I may be on to a winner, I just got that call back from the pain managment clinic, not my ususal doctor but he listened to what I had to say and told me its not common for patients to request naloxone or self administer it but he would look into it and prescribe me a dose if possible.

I never thought trying to ensure my safety could be such hard work. I understand the system does not recognise the use of naloxone in people like myself but seriously they are all acting like I am trying to get some really rare and illegal substance, its just to save my life for crying out loud, I hope I never have to use it but is my request so absurd ?
 
^ That's good news! Don't worry about the doctors that didn't know you and your case well being suspicious. They are under a lot of pressure from the government to not prescribe to drug seekers and flag them where possible. The pain management clinic doctor sounds like a nice guy, hopefully you are sorted out. :)
 
Mr Blonde, thank you so much for all your support and understanding in this matter. Your truely a nice guy. Its frustrating enough being in an uncommon situation as its is without all the scepticism I seem to face so I really apreciate your interest in my situation and for trusting and believing me.
 
No problems, brother. As I said before, I remember when you first posted as Unlucky and I followed some of your threads trialling other medications. You have a very unusual condition and I hope that one day you will find something to effectively treat your pain without causing too many undue side effects. :)
 
damn, finally some good news! good luck with it, man.

i remember your posts in the OD chronic pain mega thread under your old name:)

i saw you (accidentally?) posted under unlucky earlier in the thread so being the nazi i am i'm just going to ask that you stick to one account or the other please:) it's part of the bl rules; known alts will be banned is all. but you're not trolling or anything so don't sweat it!
 
Altered Perception said:
My doctor is still away but today I saw another doctor at the same clinic as they all have acess to my history.

Unfortunately the doctor refused to prescribe naloxone. It took some convincing for him to accept that I do infact have a unique condition, at first he insisted that I should not be having adverse reactions at the dose I am taking and he assumed I was abusing the medication but I then showed him my test results from my neurologist who conducted an experiment where he gave me 10mg Oxycodone and documented my adverse reaction and changes in my vitals, I also showed him all the documents from my allergy specialist and autonomic specialist, and even though he accepted my reasoning he made excuses saying it was not a drug that can be prescribed.

I didnt want to cause a scene so I just said fine but the reality is the pbs website has it listed as a drug that can be prescribed under 3 categories: Dental, General Schedule and Emergency...

http://www.pbs.gov.au/medicine/item/3482G-1753G-5175J

I now left a message for someone to call me back from the pain managment clinic. One way or another I will find a way to get this, it will require persistence but I believe whether it can be prescribed or not is based purely on the discretion of the doctor.

I now realise my biggest mistake was not insisting for my neurologist to give me naloxone during the oxycodone allergy test he conducted on me, I remember at the time I mentioned naloxone he replied saying "someone with your sensitivity may also have complications from naloxone" but I would rather have complications then die.
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I think the most important thing to note is that naloxone is still an opioid. Fighting fire with fire could be dangerous. But hey, i'm not a specialist so i'll leave your life in yours and your doctors hands.
 
leftwing said:
damn, finally some good news! good luck with it, man.

i remember your posts in the OD chronic pain mega thread under your old name:)

i saw you (accidentally?) posted under unlucky earlier in the thread so being the nazi i am i'm just going to ask that you stick to one account or the other please:) it's part of the bl rules; known alts will be banned is all. but you're not trolling or anything so don't sweat it!
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OMG your right 8o, I am fully aware we can only use one account so it was my intention to abandon the other but I just checked the last login date and it seems I posted in here under unlucky. Wow I cant believe I did that, I guess old habbits do die hard, either that or Im going senile. I am soo sorry about that, I didnt even realise till you pointed it out :(

Yea tramadol was another one of my the failed trials to find a pain medication I could tolerate.

MrIbis, I actually had no idea naloxone was an opiate, perhaps I am fighting for a lost cause, I do now recall I was informed by my neurologist a few years back that naloxone might not agree with my medical condition. If I obtain it, I will definetly withold it for the worst case situation.
 
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hey like i said don't sweat it, i had the feeling it was an accident. i was being facetious about the nazi comment, well in here at least;)`
 
MrIbis, I actually had no idea naloxone was an opiate, perhaps I am fighting for a lost cause, I do now recall I was informed by my neurologist a few years back that naloxone might not agree with my medical condition. If I obtain it, I will definetly withold it for the worst case situation.
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It's an opioid antagonist, so it's effects are completely different from opioids as you know. I'd wager that the chances are you can probably tolerate it.
 
Well naloxone only has a short half-life, so hopefully it's enough to get him into the clear and then he can try and relieve the pain again with a smaller dose perhaps?
 
You can get naloxone by going to a needle exchange program who stocks it.

In the United States, there was a needle exchange which shut down. Before it shut down, it said it was going to get naloxone, but never did.

Other Bluelighters in the United States have reported being able to get naloxone from a needle exchange.

However, the needle exchange that I used to go to - which consequentially closed down - said that they could refer you to a doctor who would be more than willing to write a prescription to you for the ampules. :)

Knowing your unique condition though, naloxone could have its own unique negative interactions/side effects that may only be present in unique circumstances such as yours.

Have you had this drug before on its own?
 
I'm glad you bumped this topic because it turned out I was not able to acquire it so thanks for your suggestion i will be dfinetly tryinga needle exchange centre.

I have never had naloxone before and one of the reasons I could not get it from my specialist was because of exactly what you said ..they too believed it could have "its own unique negative interactions/side effects" but I am willing to accept that and administer it(me or my parents) for the worst case scenario where calling an ambulance maybe too late.

Thank you once again for all your help . Your my favourite moderator and person on Bluelight =D
 
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