I have been on bupe @8mg for over a year. A couple months ago I decided I wanted to get high. I didnt take my dose for a couple days I copped some op80 and by the 2nd night I couldnt take it anymore. I Did one of the 80s and went to bed ( At least it took away the w/d) For about 5 days of using oxy I did not catch more than a slight buzz. By the 4th day I had eaten 4 op80's by nighttime. Is my tolerance forever fucked/jacked through the roof?? I know bupe has a crazy long halflife and I need to wait more than 2 days. My question is how the fuck can I get my tolerance down(well obviously weening) but how do I decrease my dose? How long will this take? should I do a fast taper or a slow taper? I just wanna get this shit out of my system!
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Toz
Bluelighter
What I'm going to write is probably not a good idea from a harm reduction standpoint.
If you want to get high: Use fentanyl, it penetrates the buprenorphine blockade. Tramadol also does this, but it's such a weak opioid and you'd need to take alot. I've combined it with quite high doses of clonazepam to prevent seizures while taking riddiculous doses of it. I've never had a seizure but I do not recommend this.
Don't bother with the oxy untill you are off the bupe, some people say they can get high after 48 hours or so, but I've waited 5-6 days in agony and still all the morphine I took ever did was get me well again, maybe high for an hour and then it faded away.
How fast you want to taper your buprenorphine depends on how much you are willing to suffer.
If you want to get high: Use fentanyl, it penetrates the buprenorphine blockade. Tramadol also does this, but it's such a weak opioid and you'd need to take alot. I've combined it with quite high doses of clonazepam to prevent seizures while taking riddiculous doses of it. I've never had a seizure but I do not recommend this.
Don't bother with the oxy untill you are off the bupe, some people say they can get high after 48 hours or so, but I've waited 5-6 days in agony and still all the morphine I took ever did was get me well again, maybe high for an hour and then it faded away.
How fast you want to taper your buprenorphine depends on how much you are willing to suffer.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
Toz
Bluelighter
Using fentanyl does not necessarily have to be reckless. You don't need to try and inject/smoke/eat the patches. You can actually use them as intended and still get high while knowing your dosage.
Mr.Scagnattie
Bluelighter
I must agree with mr. scagnattie, after seeing a couple people die from fentanyl I agree it should never be recommended, even if a user uses as intended for a while I would bet for a lot of people the temptation would win and they would eventually experiment with other ROA's.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Lol, seriously, recommending the most potent opiated available for pain treatment in humans in order to get high is frankly ridiculous and completely dangerous. Never venture into fentayl unless you have a lot of knowledge regarding it and its effects, its not meant to be that euphoric and it's incredibly easy to overdose on.
Benjo Diazepine
Bluelighter
Fent is damn scary. Over in the dark side, there's a thread that includes people dropping dead from smoking one hit of it. A friend of mine smokes the patches without extracting- plastic and all.. now THAT can't be good.
Personally, I've never liked the way it made me feel and was unable to sleep on it, but I only wore a patch for a few hours.
I've never done bupe, but I can say after tapering off methadone and being opioid free for a year and a half, my tolerance was still sky high when I relapsed. Abstinence is still the best thing you can do to lower tolerance.
Personally, I've never liked the way it made me feel and was unable to sleep on it, but I only wore a patch for a few hours.
I've never done bupe, but I can say after tapering off methadone and being opioid free for a year and a half, my tolerance was still sky high when I relapsed. Abstinence is still the best thing you can do to lower tolerance.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
And old friend of mines brother overdosed and died from fent. He thought he was safe as he was a regular heroin IV user, morphine, oxy you name it he put it in his veins. He slammed a patch of fent and dropped dead. Respiratory collapse and myocardial infarction within 20 seconds of administering it.
down508
Bluelighter
Suboxone tolerance and the blocking effect are wierd. Oxy is almost worthless when ur trying beat the suboxone. Ive done oxys on 8mg sub and didnt feel shit. But if do 100mg of h ill get blasted. I think it has a lot to do with the lipid solubility, fentanyl is highly soluble and it will blow bupe off the map. Morphine is less soluble if i remember correctly, and dope more soluble.
This is beyond a reckless recommendation. It is like saying go sniff gasoline next to a fully engulfed structure fire. I have given narcan to more patients for fentanyl overdose than any other medication, even though othet opiates are more readily available just due to ppl underestimating it. It IS extremely strong, the strongest currently available actually, especially when you are trying to override bupe on your receptors. Just fucking wait for it to leave then use your dope at a safe dose, respiratory arrest is not worth waiting a day or two to get high.
i agree with the warnings about fent. the sweet spot for me always seemed to be razor thin--more times than not it seemed like i went from feeling absolutely zero to passed out w/ shallow breathing w/out ever reaching any sort of comfortable "buzzed" medium. tread lightly for sure. personally i'd pass and find another way to try and get high.
Venrak
Bluelight Crew
The way I see it is that if you are trying to get high while on bupe for maintenance, and in the attempt of getting clean, you're not being honest to yourself and those involved in your treatment, and would go as far to say that you need to take a step back and re-evaluate your situation.
I know, I'm a drug addict as well. It's just that we all need this sort of honesty, without all the flourishes that detract from the simple truth the message is meant to convey.
I know, I'm a drug addict as well. It's just that we all need this sort of honesty, without all the flourishes that detract from the simple truth the message is meant to convey.
I'm on bupe for maintenance and I occasionally get high. Yeah it's not a good thing and I'd rather not use but I have mental issues I need to clear up and I can never find a Dr. that doesn't treat me like complete shit. But if I wasn't on bupe I would be in terrible shape, probably in jail. What am I going to do tell my doctor well I like to use sometimes because the constant anxiety I have makes me want to off myself so I think we should just stop treatment now and I'll go back to being a scumbag and stealing everything I can to support my habit.