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Heroin How bad is Black Tar for you, really?

Breathe said:
How can any such business of selling garbage actually continue to survive? I don't get it. .
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Supply and demand, if people have no other sources & are addicts, they're going to take what they can get. It's sad, but true. I wish more dealers took pride in their product and didn't cut it to hell and back, but its a cold world where everyone tries to fatten their pockets.

If I were a dealer, i'd much rather be known as the guy whos always got the good shit rather than the guy you have to call because you have no one better.
 
I have heard it can be very bad for your veins, well the tar is. If your really worried I'd suggested a micron filter, the solution comes of crystal clear after it been run though the filter. I don't think cotton filter is sufficient enough.

Black Tar isn't the best stuff, usually it takes anywhere from 0.1g to 0.25g IV if its crappy stuff to get a nod for someone with a moderate tolerance. I have seem people with high tolerance and the solution becomes so dark they can't seem though it. I have heard of people with a 1 gram a day habit and even a 4 gram a day habit. Then again I never did more than 0.25 gram a day even when I was using the most heavy.

I've also had the rare chance to try powdered stuff it was a tan powder, powder is very rare on the west coast and cost 20x as much a tar, it took about 0.05 grams IV(50mgs) to get me rocked, the high was much cleaner, and better. There was less itchy aspect of it as you get from tar and less of the side effects. Though the effects are shorter lasting than tar. Despite it cost it was worth the money to get the chance to try it, it dosn't come around very often.

-PLUR
 
Candy_Raver said:
I've also had the rare chance to try powdered stuff it was a tan powder, powder is very rare on the west coast and cost 20x as much a tar, it took about 0.05 grams IV(50mgs) to get me rocked, the high was much cleaner, and better. There was less itchy aspect of it as you get from tar and less of the side effects. Though the effects are shorter lasting than tar. Despite it cost it was worth the money to get the chance to try it, it dosn't come around very often.

-PLUR
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Nice! Yeah powder never comes around here. Ever. Even if you are willing to pay more, it cannot be found to my knowledge. It would be nice though cuz yeah the tar gets hard on the veins.
 
i live in west tx ,very near the border. i have been using black tar for about 20 years.in my recent switch from methadone to H to subs that lasted about a month . i trashed my veins and am treating some sort of an abscess on the top of my hand. that came from using new gear and good skills. i know it comes from all the crap that it has on purpose and not so on purpose. i know that some dope comes straight out of someones ass or stomach acid, catfish from "fishing " in the rio grande/bravo , vaginas,and many other good hiding places like that.
then the dopeman might want to cut it..one possibilitie that the shot looks like mollasses is it may have been cut with sugar that has been burnt on a spoon or whatever and when it is boiling vinegar is added to it for the smell.
1g would easily kill me and maybe two other homies if we split it in three.
the common practice here is to add water and dope ,heat up a little to breakdown the tar some, after that re-heat untill the crap seperates , then you got a light brown to brown dose .
i would say get a new connect.
 
tar is shit really. i mean in washington thats all we really have, but its fucking shitty to shoot. if you go down to portland it gets better, but yeah it sucks. i developed a habit smoking it. it always did the trick for me. yeah you dont get the rush, but hey.. its better than not having any veins and eventually getting your arms chopped off. seriousley.
 
Yeh the Portland Tar I get varies alot in quality but I know a couple people around here that have Bomb ass Tar. Then I also know people that have shitty ass Tar. It really is all about who you know with almost any drug no matter where you are....
 
You probably just have a bad connect if u have to shoot a G. im out in LA and i had a connect were i had to shoot .6 to get me good, then i found a different connect and i couldnt shoot more than .2 if i wanted, i only did a .1 most of the time. it just depends on who you know. As for how bad it is for you im not gona lie that shit will fuck up ur veins and leave them lookn like shit.
 
I remember the sickening feeling of injecting a think brown sludge into my veins. Not good.
 
There is such a huge difference in Black Tar potency it's not really safe to judge. It all depends on who you get it from really.

As some other people have said in this thread, your Tar potency is directly related to how many times it goes down the chain from the suppliers in Mexico. LA is where I get it and most of the shit is barely touched, if touched at all.
 
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Will a micron filter really improve the safety of a tar shot? As opposed to a cotton. I've heard some people say they can get shots of tar looking like amber (like the powder dope here looks), which shocks me considering the tar I got looked like the fucking X-Files disease in the rig.

I'm in NJ and just tried it for the first time (VERY rare to see Tar around here...as in never really...) I shot it...and yeah you KNOW when you start missing, and it can do some damage in there. The tar I got was GREAT though, I just want to see if there is a way to make it less grimey.
 
MAURICIO -

There IS a way to make it much, much less grimey. Not only that, but this process actually involves removing the majority of CUTS from the tar, so that you end up with a yellow/amber solution, when what you started with was dark brown or "grimey" as you so aptly put it.
The biggest payoff is that it also raises the pH of the tar solution, to the point that missing a shot does not burn.

Amazing, I know hahaha I used it just last night, and it worked wonderfully.

Let me know if you want this info.
 
Breathe said:
MAURICIO -

There IS a way to make it much, much less grimey. Not only that, but this process actually involves removing the majority of CUTS from the tar, so that you end up with a yellow/amber solution, when what you started with was dark brown or "grimey" as you so aptly put it.
The biggest payoff is that it also raises the pH of the tar solution, to the point that missing a shot does not burn.

Amazing, I know hahaha I used it just last night, and it worked wonderfully.

Let me know if you want this info.
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Would love to hear it man, post or PM if you prefer. I am in NJ so I mostly fuck w/ powder, but I can get some GREAT tar in terms of purity...but of course it is still tar. If I could get rid of/decrease the burns/huge rock hard bubbles on my arms it leaves (even if I miss just the end part of my shot) I'd be in opiate heaven as the tar I'm getting purity wise is better then the bags around here.
 
I've been bangin' arizona tar for a while now. I know people who are good friends of mine who have been slamming tar for 12+ years. They would die if they shot a gram at a time.
 
^ Yeah, that is very likely so.

A gram of good tar = a gram of regular powder. (That is, because "good" powder basically only means that the powder is less cut than usual, giving the person a much lower cut/dope ratio, whereas with tar, the cut is always there, no matter what - but the purity can go up)
 
Cocorosie said:
It's is obviously junk tar. No one, and I mean no one could do 10 (.1 mg) balloons of the stuff in Ohio.
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Speak for yourself man, I can get some bomb ass tar and in my bad days I could easily slam a gram. This is GOOD shit too. It's called a tolerance.
 
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