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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Heroin How addictive is heroin?

n3ophy7e said:
I hear ya man. There are much better ways to deal with the lows, than to get hooked on heroin. You could potentially discover a whoooollllle new world of lows that you never thought imaginable, if you get addicted to H.
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I'm aware, ty for the words and advice I appreciate it
 
Heroin is pleasure sensory overload…so I would say it’s “super addictive”, that might note be a clinical term tho…and yes, I was completly hooked after my first hit, I just didn’t realize it until years later…best not to wake a sleeping monster eh ?
 
If you want to try it, probably nothing anyone here says will stop you.
I can say that if you like it, you will do it again. If you do it enough times (doesn't take long) you will get addicted and eventually you have to make a decision to stop or get more dope. If you choose to stop, you are going to have to deal with withdrawals which are what everyone says they are and more. And if you choose to get more dope, you will have that same decision to make when that supply gets low and again and again and again. The longer you wait to get clean, the worse the withdrawals are going to be.

I've liked opiates since I was 15 years old when the dentist gave me Vicodin for a tooth abscess. But, it wasn't until my late thirties until I really got into it. I started with sniffing Roxies and eventually tried Heroin the first time when my guy was out of Roxies. I had always wanted to try it so I said fuck it and picked up a few bags. Love at first bump is an understatement. It's been almost 15 years( i was thinking 12 years the other day but def closer to 15) since that first bump of Roxie. I've stopped and gone through withdrawals more times than I can remember and each time I look for something new to get me to the other side. I'm about to start that process later today or early tomorrow as I am nearing the end of my supply of Heroin and I have to travel next month so I have no choice but to get clean. Being scared to go through this again doesn't begin to describe it. Time feels like it is standing still when you are going through withdrawals. It can be the worse three to ten days of your life and sometimes more for some people. For me, three or four are pure hell and then the next month is solid depression, aches and pains and hating my life. Eventually I start to feel normal again and if I am true to who I've been it's only a matter if time before I pick up again. I am hoping this will be the last time I have to go through this but I've learned that it's impossible to predict.
I don't IV so withdrawals for me are likely a lot more manageable than for someone who does but still hell. So don't think because you don't stick a needle in your arm, you won't have to pay for your sins, we all have to pay eventually.
 
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I have no first-hand experience with heroin, but with Opium.
We took it in Las Negras for a few days, I have no recollection of how long it actually was,
may have been 2 weeks, my ex insists it was for about a month. Felt like 2 days
It really wasn't much, but when I think of those days my memories still feel "sparkly",
they feel like it was the best time ever, the most amazing thing ever,
but it really wasn't much, and I know that.

Another time I was smoking it with an ex gf of mine when we were pretty young, 16 or 17 or so,
were out on the balcony for three days smoking Opium, felt like 20 minutes.

I'm just glad I never did it again. Opium is just a time vortex
 
Different people react differently to opiates but like negrogesic said, if they melt away all your pain, the temptation to keep using them will be irresistible.

If you decide you want to try it despite the risk, do not use heroin as your first opiate. Heroin will jack up your tolerance, the quality will be unpredictable, and the potential for OD is massive especially with all the fentanyl that is passed off as heroin nowadays.

Find legitimate pharmacy pills for your first time. There are a lot of fake pills too so watch out, the most commonly faked pills are any form of oxycodone and morphine, but other pills can be faked too.

I hope you lose your curiosity for heroin. Good luck, stay safe
 
falsifiedhypothesi said:
Different people react differently to opiates but like negrogesic said, if they melt away all your pain, the temptation to keep using them will be irresistible.

If you decide you want to try it despite the risk, do not use heroin as your first opiate. Heroin will jack up your tolerance, the quality will be unpredictable, and the potential for OD is massive especially with all the fentanyl that is passed off as heroin nowadays.

Find legitimate pharmacy pills for your first time. There are a lot of fake pills too so watch out, the most commonly faked pills are any form of oxycodone and morphine, but other pills can be faked too.
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I was thinking of trying to get some pharmacy opiates but it certainly isn't easy because I dont really have any physical health issues and I don't exactly wanna break my arm for Vicodin or something
 
witnesshopper said:
I'm aware it's extremely addictive but you always hear these stories about how 1 hit and you're addicted, hearing that just sounds a bit unbelievable, but I've never tried it, how true is this, also people who have used it how would you describe the feeling, just a bit curious, ty in advance.
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First off,in the interest of Harm Reduction,let me just say…DO NOT try heroin…not even “just this one time” because it won’t be just that one time. That’s how addictive that shit is. I’m a recovering heroin/meth addict. I wish to God that I had NEVER picked it up. I put black tar heroin in my veins for 3yrs. I paid a high price for my addiction…my price…EVERYTHING I OWED. I lost all my belongings. I’m not going to tell you how the high was or how it made me feel because “I’m only going to take one hit” isn’t worth the risk of addiction.
 
witnesshopper said:
I was thinking of trying to get some pharmacy opiates but it certainly isn't easy because I dont really have any physical health issues and I don't exactly wanna break my arm for Vicodin or something
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The fact that you're struggling and looking for a fix is what causes big-time alarm bells for me.

If you told me you're just curious, and that life is going pretty well, and that you are just naturally experimental and you always wanted to know what heroin was like, then I wouldn't worry quite as much. (not that you can't get addicted with that mindset either).
 
Asparagus_Prince said:
The fact that you're struggling and looking for a fix is what causes big-time alarm bells for me.

If you told me you're just curious, and that life is going pretty well, and that you are just naturally experimental and you always wanted to know what heroin was like, then I wouldn't worry quite as much. (not that you can't get addicted with that mindset either).
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I completely agree man.
 
witnesshopper said:
I'm aware it's extremely addictive but you always hear these stories about how 1 hit and you're addicted, hearing that just sounds a bit unbelievable, but I've never tried it, how true is this, also people who have used it how would you describe the feeling, just a bit curious, ty in advance.
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What do you suppose the ratio is of people saying "I want to try it once just to see." vs "Y'know...I'd really like to become a heroin addict." ?
 
I can tell you that I have yet to meet a Heroin addict that planned on being a Heroin addict...

And as I always say...the only way to ensure that you will not have a problem with any given drug is to not do it. I know that is an over-simplification, but one that is also true.
 
Shadow Self, that's a good point.

I've never had a heroin problem. But I'm guessing a large percentage of heroin addicts liked the way it made them feel the first time. Then it's just one more time, "I can handle it". Just one more time, just one more time.

That's what concerns me about the author of this thread. Sounds like he was struggling with coping/emotions, etc, not so much looking for physical pain relief. Suppose he tried heroin and loved it and it felt like the answer to his prayers. He understands it's addictive, but probably hopes he can use it for "a while". But geez... it's so easy to imagine it becoming real addictive real quick to someone like that.

EVEN IF he tried it once, loved it, and was determined to stay off it, I imagine that would be a challenging tease. Everything feels great and better for a while, but you know you can't go back to that because of the risks. Why even show yourself what you know you might miss?
 
Hi,

Heroin has the potential for a person who uses it to develop dependence and addiction. [see here for a differentiation between the two terms]

The myth that:
witnesshopper said:
1 hit and you're addicted,
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has been empirically shown to be untrue - especially if you consider how 'addiction' is different from 'dependence'.

There is a myriad of factors that contribute to the behaviors which result from its use. For example, different routes of administration (ROA) and corresponding bioavailability (i.e. IV use has higher bioavailability than insufflating). There are also several social and physiological specific to each individual which impacts how the drug is used. In my own personal experience, the dependence associated with continued use, coupled with various mental health conditions, contributed to me using problematically (severe opioid use disorder) for a long period of time.
 
witnesshopper said:
I'm aware it's extremely addictive but you always hear these stories about how 1 hit and you're addicted, hearing that just sounds a bit unbelievable, but I've never tried it, how true is this, also people who have used it how would you describe the feeling, just a bit curious, ty in advance.
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Yeah the one hit and you're addicted thing is definitely not true. It is however, very addicting and dangerous to try. Don't quote me on this but I swear I read a paper once that calculated only 15 - 20% of the people who had tried heroin ended up as daily users. I mean thats still a pretty big number but there are plenty of individuals I'm sure that tried it once and said ' not for me.'
 
Heroin doesn't have the reputation it has for no reason. It is incredibly addicting, as it eliminates all pain, mentally, emotionally, and physically. Stay far away if at all possible.

If you insist on trying it, don't do so without trying other opioids first and building a tolerance. Test your heroin. Weigh your doses. Snort it or maybe smoke it. Don't shoot it.
 
I know this is an older thread, but i noticed that wanting to sabatage your self, or hurt yourself- mostly cuz it hurts others too.
I told myself something
 
This entire ominous image surrounding Heroin is media bs. Heroin is just as addictive as other opis. The only difference is the volatile purity and the subsequent increase in chances of overdosing. Take any opioid and you'll know how Heroin will likely feel. No, you're not on the safe side just because you're doing "codeine" instead of "big, evil Heroin". You'll become addicted either way if you develop a taste for opioids. Some opioids are a bit more stimulating, while others are more sedating, but they all have basically the same effect on you. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you do Heroin or "just" pharma opioids because they all turn you into an addict if you abuse them...
 
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