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There is not really much you can do though, except put the person behind bars, and punish them. and all you could really do for the child is get them some kind of psycology and have someone to talk to about what happened... and maybe them not holding in their thoughts will prevent things from effecting them long term.
 
No-one is hurt in same gender sex, many people are horribly hurt by a pedo - I can't possibly see any argument that would support their "normal" life rights?

I seriously hope this world isn't so fucked up that it would allow such rights!
 
I cant see pedos ever getting rights. Could you ever see them marching without getting killed?

Sexual rights are fine, as long as you're not hurting anyone.

It wouldnt happen any more than rapists would be allowed to legally indulge in their preferences.
 
Just a small point to make...

How many people here consider themselves open minded and fair about Homosexuality?

I note that almost all the language people are using here, in relation to Paedophilia, was used about 40 years ago in reference to Homosexuality. Which was, at the time, an imprisonable offence, and one that was despised by the majority of the public.

What will our attitudes be in 40 years time towards this?

-plaz out-
 
I can't see any argument or reasoning that could possibly change attitudes.
 
plazma...thats what i was getting at thanks....im hopeless when it comes to saying what i want come out right

but yeah hopefully it wont ever happen because of the fact that it involves kids
 
I knew what you were on about doofqueen, I was just being a stubborn prick and refusing to even entertain such a thought.

I have a very close family member who's been through this, and it scares the shit out of me that it might happen to my son, let alone these bastards having rights.
 
Sylv said:
What a hateful, ignorant thread.

I suppose nobody on this liberated message board has had to live with a repressed sexuality.

But instead of heralding and congratulating those who show restraint over their urges, we tell them that they should die for even having them.

Boy, that shows a lot of understanding. Atleast you don't have to think very hard to figure out who the bad guy is. Just roll the dice and point your finger at the deviant with the unfortunate predisposition.

There is a world of difference between a pedophile and a child molester, and they are not the same.

You make me wish I'd never registered.

~Sylv.
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you make me wish you'd never registered too. :o
 
Sylv, I find it interesting that when searching your posts the two still on the board are in relation to paedophilia and the exploitation of children.

there is a world of difference between a paedophile and a child molester
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A paedophile is defined in the dictionary as someone who is sexually attracted to children the steps between the two are a lot smaller than you would like us to believe.

If that paedophile is looking at pictures of children that have been taken by someone who is exploiting that child then he is acting on his desired and perpetrating the disgusting act. Supply and demand. Whilst he may not be physically there with the child, by looking at the pictures he is contributing to the problem.

Isn’t it wonderful that there are people out there in the world who think that perpetrating that behaviour is actually a good thing. 8)
 
Sylv said:
What a hateful, ignorant thread.

I suppose nobody on this liberated message board has had to live with a repressed sexuality.

Well actually yeah, I have. Welcome to being homosexual. And if you're gonna pull out the "being gay is pretty much accepted" line, yeah it "pretty much" is...but most of my family don't talk to me no more because I'm open about it (no great loss) and my relationship with my sister has been completely fucked up since I came out. So yeah, I think it still counts as a "repressed sexuality". Things are a lot better now than they were 10 or 20 years ago, but the fact still remains that a lot of gay guys have to remain repressed because of their circumstances.
The difference I feel is that this is due to social mores...after all, we're talking about the activities of two consenting adults. Pedophilia is about an adult and a MINOR. Thus named because they're legally not capable of making competent adult decisions. Sure, there will always be exceptions. I'm sure there are 13 year old kids out there who are damn sure what they want sexually, but I would make a guess that they're a distinct minority. And isn't it worth making those few kids wait a few years to better protect the majority who are at risk of being exploited by adults who are supposed to be the mature "protectors of their innocence"?

But instead of heralding and congratulating those who show restraint over their urges, we tell them that they should die for even having them.

I can't speak for anyone else here, but the way I look at is, you're not responsible for what your libido tells you you want...you ARE responsible for what you do about it. If someone I knew was having sexual thoughts about kids, I'd encourage them to get counselling but I wouldn't think of them as a terrible human being. But if they were actually DOING it, then that's a crime, and it's a crime for a damn good reason. Somebody's child is being exploited.

You make me wish I'd never registered.

~Sylv.
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I won't say I agree, but think about what we're saying. We're not talking about an acceptable "alternative sexuality" anymore so than rape is an acceptable "alternative sexuality". Pedophilic fantasies are just fantasies, and can't hurt anybody. I don't understand them, but I can't condemn someone for the thoughts in his/her mind.

Acting out on them is a different story altogether. Having sex with children is a gross negligence of the responsibility we have as adults. Buying or downloading child pornography keeps an entirely unethical industry running, and that's just as gross a negligence. In the end, put all the PC crap aside and realise that what we're talking about is PROTECTING CHILDREN.

I hope you're still reading this thread, because I think Kitty made a good point and I think I've made a good point. A person shouldn't be jailed for the thoughts they have, but a person SHOULD be bond by moral obligation to treat each other with normal moral obligations. And if political correctness is more important to you than protecting those who need it most, then I feel sorry for you...because somewhere along the way you've lost a hell of a lot of perspective.

--Raz--
 
You really believe your comments are common sense? I pity you.

I would bother to write a lovely long post refuting almost everything you said but that would take effort and really if you're not going to bother posting again why should I make any effort to engage you in discussion.

Then again it would be pointless anyway so staid are you in your crusade to right the "wrong" standards that you see nothing beyond your own opinion as narrow as it is.

It's people like you that ensure many criminals walk. Such a wonderful thing you do for society and you do it all under the impression that you're saving humanity. 8)
 
What exactly constitutes child pornography?

Given the consequences of having it on ones computer can be quite serious, Im curious to see how people navigate the greyer areas of the issue.

Pornography involving young (preteen) children is pretty clear cut...

But what about material involving younger teenagers, teenagers of 15, 16, 17 - or teenagers that appear older? Is there an actual age.. if porn involving individuals who are a week or a month under that age is found on someones computer, should they be arrested and charged? What about pornography involving individuals who appear for all intents and purposes to be 18 but are actually younger? Should people be arrested and charged?

What's the cut off?
 
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i'm with raz (presuming i understand his point) on this one - i don't understand how someone can have thoughts like *that* about children, but not understanding is no reason to openly condemn them.

i believe that *anyone* who acts on thoughts like this forfeits any right to life and should be tortured for the rest of their miserable fucking lives, *but* actually acting is a lot different to thinking something. i'd much rather see somebody with those kind of thoughts go into some kind of rehabilitation program than just be persecuted.

that said, i believe that someone caught looking at child porn has crossed the line - this has become more than just thoughts, it's an active interest in the subject which is entirely wrong.

coincedentally, er (the tv show) actually tackled this about two weeks ago, though in not as much depth as it perhaps could have. however, i thought it was quite good (and interesting) in that it didn't just outright condemn this guy - he was having thoughts about children (and hadn't done anything) and was actually painted pretty sympathetically. food for thought anyway.
 
From CE&P, the 'virtual' child porn debate. New legislation has been recently passed in the United States which bans graphical representations of pedophilia which does not actually include real children. Complex issue with some pretty heated discussion going down...
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81034&r=27

Remember that southpark episode, with NAMBLA? Pretty funny eh, well you probably didn't realise that they were real, and not in the North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes kind of way either...

www.nambla.org
 
Sylv is not me by the way seeing as my name is Sylvia and alot of you know that and this sylv person is a greenlighter....just making sure you dont think its me !!! lol :\
 
doofqueen said:
Sylv is not me by the way seeing as my name is Sylvia and alot of you know that and this sylv person is a greenlighter....just making sure you dont think its me !!! lol :\
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Would never have entered the mind doofy :)
 
LOL yeah i know but i'm all paranoid lately about everything so i'm just making sure no one thinks it me!! lol
 
haste said:
No-one babby sits my son apart from his grandparents - and after reading the above, I'll keep it that way...
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things like this can happen between family members as well. in fact, i would guess that child molestation happens most within a family than by strangers.
 
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