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House of Commons debate on UK Drugs Policy today

I've just realised what a completelty futile move it would be to close down all .uk legal high web-sites. All they need do is get their site hosted overseas (perhaps the more tech savvy here will know if that could be done by proxy. It could all become a very grey area indeed.) They could even happily continue shipping from within the UK, at least until one of their parcels gets intercepted and someone has pressure applied on them to name the source.

It would be nothing more than a token gesture, if they did actually go through with it, in practical terms it wouldn't achieve anything atall. Banning the headshops from selling LHs might have some impact for the good, given their tendencies to sell made up tacky brand name products, rather than selling the products by their chemical name, so no one really knowns what they are even taking so's they could research it a bit for dosegae info and other HR type stuff.
 
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One of the members stood up during Lucas speech & expressed concern about "Legal Highs", suggesting that the entire thing should be banned. Obviously, we all know the reasons banning shit doesn't work & Lucas set those arguments out & countered the interruption. She said that banning drugs hadn't had an awful lot of good results so far, so what was the point in trotting out the same old "ban it!" rubbish.

That said, I personally feel that the present free-for-all in the Legal Highs scene is unacceptable whilst safer, known drugs remain totally banned. The Legal Highs scene needs some regulation.

IDEA - If they ban "Legal Highs" they could legalise weed & turn Head Shops into weed outlets =D
 
Si Ingwe said:
That said, I personally feel that the present free-for-all in the Legal Highs scene is unacceptable whilst safer, known drugs remain totally banned. The Legal Highs scene needs some regulation.
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The present free-for-all in the legal highs scene is a direct result of what 'regulation' has been applied thus far (the banning of mephedrone, methoxetamine et al).

The kind of common-sense regulation of which you speak would inevitably have to result on across-the-board legalisation, which would (in theory) eradicate, or at least heavily erode the market for legal highs anyway. Nice thought, but unlikely to happen soon.
 
Nothing is likely to happen soon, for sure... & I think it's pretty much accepted that the Legal Highs scene is here to stay anyway.

RC suppliers these days often have a research group of some kind. I've been invited into these sortsa things once or twice. It would not be particularly difficult for the government to set up it's own research groups, to examine new compounds in much the same way any half intelligent RC & Bluelight user might explore any new compound. These groups would produce reports, again, much as we do, to help them decide if the benefits of some new NPS might outwiegh it's risks. Research groups associated with RC suppliers perform much the same task, often for little more than a discount at the RC suppliers website. Perhaps big government might compensate folk who choose to take these kinds of risks a bit more generously, in a similar way to the way subjects of medical trials are compensated.

It's all just pipe dreams. But I am not certain how long the completely unregulated Legal Highs scene can continue. I'm concerned about the safety of our kids, & being able to simply wander into a Headshop & buy something like aMT or 3,4 CTMP (dunno if that's appeared in Legal Highs yet) with little to no control over the compounds is not a safe thing.

I do not profess to have all the answers. Just thinking out loud.
 
Either way, it's a set back.

Having a Minister in the Home Office who was in favour of medicinal cannabis was good for our cause.
 
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