mrflowers00
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what are some good OTC drugs or herbal supplements for pain cause my tolerance is so high i couldn't find a crooked doctor to prescribe me what i need
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shreddedlettuce
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400mg Ibuprofen + 1g Paracetamol (acetaminophen).
mrflowers00
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doesn't even phase the pain in my spine but thanks i don't think there is anything i haven't tried just tryna see
shreddedlettuce
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was baclofen a dud too?
(just throwing a few out there too).
(just throwing a few out there too).
Jabberwocky
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ketaprofen, diclofenac?
possibly even promethazine?
i don't know if you can get codeine otc in the US but over here, you can in 12.8mg mixed with 500mg paracetamol....
as for herbal stuff - white willow bark is apparantly useful in back pain. never tried it myself, but its the basis behind aspirin...
possibly even promethazine?
i don't know if you can get codeine otc in the US but over here, you can in 12.8mg mixed with 500mg paracetamol....
as for herbal stuff - white willow bark is apparantly useful in back pain. never tried it myself, but its the basis behind aspirin...
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Dxm, diphenhydramine, and naproxen sodium are the best OTC pain relievers. Loperamide might help too but I doubt it will. There are opiate receptors all over the body such as the gut and the spine which is why I said loperamide might help. Guafenesin is sometimes used for fibromyalgia so that might be something to look in to. Kava and kratom also are legal but you have to specially order them. Some places have them in stock but.most don't
Swimmingdancer
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"Home remedies" are made from ingredients commonly found in the home, like chicken soup for colds or duct tape for warts. I don't think that is what you are looking for, are you just looking for OTC meds, supplements and herbals?
You could think of most pain killers in 2 general groups: those that treat pain at the source by reducing inflammation etc, and those that reduce pain by calming pain signals, boosting your mood, increasing positive brain chemicals, etc. You could think of aspirin as an example of the former, and opioids as an example of the latter. I find it's good to have some from each group. Some might do both.
I would recommend trying a few and coming up with a combination that helps. Here are some I would recommend:
Supplements:
- L-Lysine - an essential amino acid, it helps recovery from injuries, decreases anxiety, has benzo or barbiturate-like properties
- L-Arginine - reduces tooth pain, heals wounds, improves immune function
- 5-HTP - precursor for serotonin, helps boost mood, improves depression and fibromyalgia
- Fish oil - contains omega-3 fatty acids, known to block inflammatory chemicals which are involved in many of painful conditions (for example rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn’s disease, gout and sinusitis)
- Glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM - used mainly for arthritis and joint pain
Herbals:
- Valerian - sedative, anxiolytic, anticonvulsant, migraine treatment and pain reliever
- Kava - sedative, decreases anxiety, sort of similar to a mild benzo
- White willow bark - an anti-inflammatory similar to aspirin, (it can be used as a salve and applied directly to the area, or drank as a tea)
- Devil's claw - best known for alleviating back pain and arthritis pain, analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects
- Kratom - a mild opioid, you usually have to get it online or from some head shops (it can have stimulating or sedating properties)
OTC medications:
- N-SAIDs: aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, ketoprofen (I haven't had a lot of luck with these personally, although ibuprofen helps a bit)
- APAP (personally don't find it helpful)
- muscle relaxants *availability of muscle relaxants OTC varies depending on where you live - I don't think any are available in the US but you could check, otherwise Rxs are usually easier to get for the ones without recreational use
- Celebrex (celecoxib) - used for alleviating pain, fever, swelling, and tenderness due to osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis
- many anti-histamines, expectorants and other cold and flu drugs have relaxant and pain-numbing (or at least making you not care about the pain) properties, I'm sure there is lots of info here on BL about those types of drugs, although they may have unwanted side-effects
You could think of most pain killers in 2 general groups: those that treat pain at the source by reducing inflammation etc, and those that reduce pain by calming pain signals, boosting your mood, increasing positive brain chemicals, etc. You could think of aspirin as an example of the former, and opioids as an example of the latter. I find it's good to have some from each group. Some might do both.
I would recommend trying a few and coming up with a combination that helps. Here are some I would recommend:
Supplements:
- L-Lysine - an essential amino acid, it helps recovery from injuries, decreases anxiety, has benzo or barbiturate-like properties
- L-Arginine - reduces tooth pain, heals wounds, improves immune function
- 5-HTP - precursor for serotonin, helps boost mood, improves depression and fibromyalgia
- Fish oil - contains omega-3 fatty acids, known to block inflammatory chemicals which are involved in many of painful conditions (for example rheumatoid arthritis, Crohn’s disease, gout and sinusitis)
- Glucosamine, chondroitin and MSM - used mainly for arthritis and joint pain
Herbals:
- Valerian - sedative, anxiolytic, anticonvulsant, migraine treatment and pain reliever
- Kava - sedative, decreases anxiety, sort of similar to a mild benzo
- White willow bark - an anti-inflammatory similar to aspirin, (it can be used as a salve and applied directly to the area, or drank as a tea)
- Devil's claw - best known for alleviating back pain and arthritis pain, analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects
- Kratom - a mild opioid, you usually have to get it online or from some head shops (it can have stimulating or sedating properties)
OTC medications:
- N-SAIDs: aspirin, ibuprofen, naproxen, ketoprofen (I haven't had a lot of luck with these personally, although ibuprofen helps a bit)
- APAP (personally don't find it helpful)
- muscle relaxants *availability of muscle relaxants OTC varies depending on where you live - I don't think any are available in the US but you could check, otherwise Rxs are usually easier to get for the ones without recreational use
- Celebrex (celecoxib) - used for alleviating pain, fever, swelling, and tenderness due to osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis
- many anti-histamines, expectorants and other cold and flu drugs have relaxant and pain-numbing (or at least making you not care about the pain) properties, I'm sure there is lots of info here on BL about those types of drugs, although they may have unwanted side-effects
mrflowers00
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thank you SD thats more along the lines of what i was getting at
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If you have a history of addiction or just a high opioid tolerance you can still find doctors willing to work with you to find medications and interventions to help. A lot of people in recovery with pain find relief with maintenance medications like MMT or bupe, especially when combined with non-narcotic adjuvants to increase the efficacy of their analgesic effects.
Depending on the source of the pain, there are loads of other options such as epidural steroid injections, radiofrequency lesioning, nerve blocks, etc, as well as less invasive options such as bio/neurofeedback, accupuncture, transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation and a wide range of medications that don't have the abuse potential of opioids such as tricyclic antidepressants (or newer SNRI's), anticonvulsants, muscle relaxants, local anesthetics and others.
A lot of people with a history (especially if it's somehow documented) of drug use/abuse are often afraid to try to get treatment for legitimate concerns but medical practitioners have an obligation to try help you out and as long as you are truly looking for relief and not trying to use doctors as dealers, you should be able to find someone who will work with you.
Depending on the source of the pain, there are loads of other options such as epidural steroid injections, radiofrequency lesioning, nerve blocks, etc, as well as less invasive options such as bio/neurofeedback, accupuncture, transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation and a wide range of medications that don't have the abuse potential of opioids such as tricyclic antidepressants (or newer SNRI's), anticonvulsants, muscle relaxants, local anesthetics and others.
A lot of people with a history (especially if it's somehow documented) of drug use/abuse are often afraid to try to get treatment for legitimate concerns but medical practitioners have an obligation to try help you out and as long as you are truly looking for relief and not trying to use doctors as dealers, you should be able to find someone who will work with you.