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lozgod

lozgod

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I had the pleasure of a 5 day stay being fed suboxone and attending some in house meetings. Feel it was a waste because I wasn't "detoxed". I was passified by being fed suboxone. Withdrawal is eminent and I have enough money for rent and thats it. I have 1 subutex (8mg). I am disappointed. I thought I was gonna get some tranquilizers and clonidine and have a true detox. Instead I was just kept unsick. I was supposed to go to a 28 day rehab but I lost my bed to a court ordered individual. I am told I will be notified when another bed is open. I have no insurance so my options are limited. Detox is a joke from my first experience. I could of stayed home and took suboxone and not been sick. Now I have to face withdrawal anyway.

Suggestions? I am serious about getting clean. I know all hell is going to break loose once the sub wears off. I have plenty of valium and immodium. I might just ride out the storm and only forsee the depression and RLS/RAS and that God awful stinky sweat as symptoms I will have to deal with for the next week or so.

It feels like I will never get out of this damn opiate trap. Part of me wants to seek out another pain management clinic which won't be hard according to the many people I know that been discharged for dirty urines. Seems like it isn't that hard, except I admitted to abusing my meds so I may of saved myself depending how you look at it.

So does anyone have a similar experience and have any idea what I can expect? Will the WD be similar after 10 days on suboxone as I would cold turkey from oxy and heroin or will I get a little reprieve. IMO Suboxone ruined the whole concept of detox. They give you an opiate to keep you from being sick. To the ignorant people they think it is a miracle medicine that cures withdrawal and is a legit detox drug. The other patients were talking about how great the "medicine" was. I didn't take it upon myself to tell them it isn't a medicine but actually an opiate and they will go through withdrawal a few days after they leave. The lucky ones going on to rehab will fair better I am sure but I am not one of those lucky ones.

To explain the 10 days of sub after only being in detox 10 days, I was discharged from pain management for having morphine (from heroin use) and fentanyl in my urine test and I am not prescribed those so I was discharged. The doctor had mercy on me and gave me a short script of 16mgs a day of sub to hold me till I could get help. I got the help and it wasn't what I expected. Feel let down. I was so hopeful, now I feel crushed and trapped and have a feeling of impending doom knowing that WD is around the corner waiting on my ass. I managed to get down to 2mgs before leaving. I did so by demanding to be detoxed to a lower dose since I lost my bed. The transition from 16 to 8 to 4 to 2 wasn't bad.
 
I think we'll try this out in TDS.

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Meanwhile while I was there I came home to 2 friends that got possession charges and were on the meth clinic, one was on like 120mgs a day and is cold turkeying in jail. Here unless it's life or death they just let you suffer. No comfort meds excepr trazadone if you are lucky. I don't envy them. It must be a living nightmare but if I was on the meth clinic I wouldn't be in that situation. I would be using it to get clean. I think they use it to not be sick. Me personally I am tired of having to pay big money to feel normal. I want out for good. I fucking tired of this shit.
 
Im gonna take the minimum amount of sub I can get away with. Try to space out dosing as long as possible. I can handle everything but the RLS/RAS. The sweating and that smell is disgusting but bearable for the most part.

I wasn't a very pleasant patient. I was constantly questioning why they were not detoxing me but just giving me an alternate opiate and they said it allows my brain to rewire from drug seeking behavior. Yeah but what about the withdrawal? They had no answer. I took the suboxone reluctantly and enjoyed not being sick and having an appetite.

IMO detox should be no opiates, comfort meds, and as much counseling as they can squeeze in for that short amount of time. I have an appointment for outpatient therapy. Going to try to make even though I know I am going to be sick when the sub wears off. With no insurance I can't afford to go on maintanance so I guess I got to play the hand dealt to me if I want to stay clean. I am afraid relapse is waiting around the corner once WD sets in but I will take it one day at a time and see how it goes.
 
My brother did a 3 week sub detox at a treatment centre. He was on 3.2. They took him down 0.4 every 3 days. It was all a waste really he said. He didn't even feel it at all through the whole 3 weeks. Its just coming off it. He's here with me now saying he's ok now just chills and stuff, 9 days clean today. Basically it is only really when it gets down to like 0.8 or even lower that its even worth detoxing off.

Hope all goes well mate!
Good luck!
 
About to be discharged from suboxone. No meds

So so I've been going to the same clinic or doctor for my suboxone for about five years. I've never had any dirty Urines. They're about to boot me off because of Ativan. I have a script For thiS and told them a while back.they told me not to take it. Intermittently I have taken it and has never showed up in my urine. Well last month I was having some trouble sleeping from too many night shifts in a row and I took it. Well now it shows and they did a random today. For some reason about six months ago they decided to want me to be back in counseling. They had waived this requirement for probably two years. I have a very erratic schedule and a lot of trouble keeping these appointments. I can barely keep my Suboxone appointment. But since I have missed two appointments in a row they are now threatening discharge. The suboxone coordinator told me after I did my random today that she could not give me my prescription even though I will be out of meds tonight. She told me in the morning they would notify me of my status. She said she had to speak with the doctor. It is a Friday and I have no meds and they're not going to refill me? That sounds unethical to me but I know what happens to people. I just wonder what you all think if they're going to discharge me or not. I've been calling all day to find a new doctor to no avail. I have some leads but everybody says it will be a week or two at least that doesn't help me now. I have one 2 mg film. I was taking 2 mg a day. Trying to get my roommate to give me an 8mg or two. I can always turn off the hot water and Internet if they won't help me,lol. So what are your opinions and experiences?
 
Dear, you're wrong about detox. Suboxone is now the standard of care. Trust me, you'd feel much worse without it, relying only upon "comfort meds" which in the end, provide little if any comfort. There is no counseling in detox: that is what rehab is for. And detoxing from the low dose of Suboxone you are taking is NOTHING like cold turkey from oxy and heroin. Divide the 8 mg that you have into enough to taper over a period of five days and you should be just fine.

As someone who did ninety days of rehab, you'll get a lot of it.
 
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I gotta disagree I went to a hospital detox and was given clonidine,darvocet, flexeril, and a GABA agonist that I dont recall the name of. I was kicking heroin and I slept at least 3 hours every night which for me is abnormal for withdrawl. All in all it was one of the easier kicks I have had.
 
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