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home detox, scared

trll

trll

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I need info on how to do quick home detox off oxys.
Have some subutex,and diazipam
I have been searching this site but much conflicting info
can any one help now? thanx
bx
 
How much oxy are you taking every day?

If you are on 150 mg or less you should just quit cold turkey. The mental addiction is much more pernicious than the physical.
 
Around 80mg,
Tried cold turkey but couldnt function as i needed.
got a 2 days I have to work and care for young person.
Also am dealing with grief.
I want to take the edge off WDs and oxys being pretty much given to me which
makes it too easy to put it off for another day.
 
You are eventually going to go through withdrawals. They can be even worse from suboxone than oxy.

Let me ask you, are you serious about quitting opiates for good? If so I would highly suggest a 12 step program such as Narcotics Anonymous. A drug addict trying to quit drugs with no support system or program is like walking into a prize fight without training for it first. You are going to get knocked out.

You are basically looking at having the flu for 2 days. Take a weekend, be sick, and get it over with. After that you really need to seek treatment because I can almost guarantee that you will find the pills again.

I know its scary and am sure you are dealing with a lot right now. However, life is much easier when you're sober..I think you know this.

Best of luck to you.

peace, love, and light
 
^^tapering from that low of a dose just extends the misery imo. Would you rather be kind of sick for weeks or really sick for 2 days? I would get it over with.
 
i dont have much experience with OC withdrawal, but i know that if you take imodium it takes away opiate w/d away. this is because it has an opioid in it that cant cross the brain blood barrier so in turn your cant get high.

if you wanna lessen your w/d symptoms id suggest taking it for like 3 or 4 days. take a few pills, say like 5 since your habit isnt bad, and see how you feel. if you still feel shitty then take a few more. now imo you could just stick it out and like take the 2 or 3 day sickness, its alot easier then taking subs and getting addicted to that. but like i said if you wanna be able to function properly just take imodium for a few days and then stop.

also clonidine and xanax work pretty well too as long as your not the addictive type and get hooked on xanax ha. but really w/d isnt that bad. its a good lesson imo.
 
Mehm said:
^^tapering from that low of a dose just extends the misery imo. Would you rather be kind of sick for weeks or really sick for 2 days? I would get it over with.
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I think I need to go slowish, I could quite easily carry on, the oxys make life much easier, but I know that there is trouble ahead using them. I get into a depression panic state in WDs that sends me straight round my friends house, for more pills.
Am not mentally so strong to tuff it out. I feel that a week or so breaking that habit would help
 
Draigan said:
I dont see how you think suboxone is going to help u. Its stronger than oxy. Your on a tiny oxy habit. If u want, drop the dose to 40mg a day for a week. Then drop to 20mg a day for a week. Then cold turkey. Its not going to get better than that, and if u cant find time to properly withdrawal then dont bother.
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As for cant find time don't bother, that feels harsh, without going into the whole sorry history of how I used the wrong crutch I have held together a family here under extreemly difficult circs. I could use a bit of support. Can some low dose of subutex cushion things for me? The part of me that is scared is because I am pretty vulnerable right now.
 
I would say cuz your habit is not that bad to just try and do a quick sub detox.
Lets say for a week or 2 at most.Ive done it this way many times and it works great im just a shmuck and keep goin back.
Wait till the w/d's really kick in and take 1mg of subs(If you prefer to snort which i do u can take even less then 1mg) which is more then enough and taper down from there for the rest of the week.
Good luck!!!!
PS:This should not disrupt your work or care taking for the child.
 
Mehm said:
Let me ask you, are you serious about quitting opiates for good? If so I would highly suggest a 12 step program such as Narcotics Anonymous. A drug addict trying to quit drugs with no support system or program is like walking into a prize fight without training for it first. You are going to get knocked out.


peace, love, and light
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great advice
 
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Bluelight can be his/her support system if people stop giving bad advice or saying things like dont even bother.
Im sure evreyone knows about n/a if thats the way they wanted to go they would not be on bluelight asking for help for a HOME DETOX.
 
totach, thank you.
I have a lot to lose, and N/A has not proved a safe place for me (tho this was years ago) and I may well try to get a meeting out of my area. Right now I need support to get me through next few days. I hope that I want to quit for good. But am under pressure and who knows whats around the corner. But my children dont need mum in a mess. I am doing this alone.
 
I really think my suggestion in the last post is good.It has worked for me many times but like i said i just always go back.Hopefully you will be able to do it without goin back.
When people say its not that hard to get clean its hard to stay clean is so true.
So i really dont see any point in goin c/t since you have some sub's.
After a week when you stop the sub's its up to you to stay clean on your own.
Just start with 1mg and end the week with a crumb.
Draigan im really surprised from your post.I read your posts for a while when you were really messed up and im really glad to see you are doin so well.You're kinda a inspiration to me in a way.I was kinda shocked that you said dont even bother.Anyways sorry to derail the thread i just wanted to tell you for a while allready how much i admire how far you have come.
 
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trll said:
As for cant find time don't bother, that feels harsh, without going into the whole sorry history of how I used the wrong crutch I have held together a family here under extreemly difficult circs. I could use a bit of support. Can some low dose of subutex cushion things for me? The part of me that is scared is because I am pretty vulnerable right now.
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Sorry. I didn't mean to upset you. I am dead serious though. If you don't have at least 5 days where u can be alone, how the heck do you suppose you are going to do this? Its 2 much man to raise a family and cold turkey at the same time.

Its like if you had food poisoning. Could you raise your family and have food poisoning at the same time? Maybe, but not likely, because its just too debilitating. Luckily though bro, oxy WD, the most intense part, only lasts 3-5 days! After that, you will be able to do stuff, just miserably :P

I really suggest you drop your dose in half to 40, then 20, quickly. That feeling of WD that you get from dropping it to 40 from 80 is probably akin to the feeling u will feel on day 5 of cold turkey. U need time to do this though. If u don't have the time, just slowly cut back, until u do.
 
FORGET THE SUBOXONE it will just get you more addicted, the diazepam will dissappear instantly though it will help, if you like weed weed is #1 it takes your mind and body away from the misery.. which doesn't last long!! just do it man!!

remember that your emotions were dulled when you were on them and they come back with a ferociousness, so when you're kicking listen to music with emotional lyrics/content, read/write poetry.. take advantage of your sensitivity..

and when you get sweaty , shower a lot.. drink a lot of water..
forget a taper (imo) just do it..
 
ts those emotions that get me every time, I now just feeling Wds and not so bad, but tomorow i need to be able to work, I dont have 5 days alone ever, I feel like collapse is just around the corner, i am holding up everything, money, housing problems, emotional difficulties for me and my son. The only way forward long term is tackling problems without using, I know. I just cant see how to get there.
I have 2 dialogues going on continously in my head. Get straight and deal with stuff, and get another handful of pills and deal with today.
 
Well, I done 1 x 8mg/2mg suboxone, subligual, and had to spit out after 5mins as didnt dissolve but just created mouthful of cack.
I felt a bit shaky, headache, and now feel fine, bit lazy bit if it wasnt such a shit day I would probably get out the house.
I think to rest today, do a few things then get on with my tasks from tomorrow onwards.
I was a bit dissapointed at first that I dont feel a high, but now I think it will be a good thing to break the up down cycle of oxys which was starting to affect my every movement and plans.
I plan to taperdown from sunday.
Thanx
 
trll said:
Well, I done 1 x 8mg/2mg suboxone, subligual, and had to spit out after 5mins as didnt dissolve but just created mouthful of cack.
I felt a bit shaky, headache, and now feel fine, bit lazy bit if it wasnt such a shit day I would probably get out the house.
I think to rest today, do a few things then get on with my tasks from tomorrow onwards.
I was a bit dissapointed at first that I dont feel a high, but now I think it will be a good thing to break the up down cycle of oxys which was starting to affect my every movement and plans.
I plan to taperdown from sunday.
Thanx
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nb. I am using this forum as advice and support and all posts are greatfully recieved.
I still reeling from the suicide, and I'm trying not to end up with a big opiate, benzo, alcohol addiction.
What I would like to do is smoke some good crack, followed by some H and oxys then a variety of benzos washed down with a bottle of baileys.
What I want to do is be out of it, my life has a lot of pain and hard work and Im fighting to clean up, what seems like a small problem for some of you is a big problem for me,
I may be lacking in the required motivation for staying away from opiates, but i can try..today.
B/L is a lifeline for me.
bx
 
I dont really understand your last post.
I wanted to ask why did you spit out the sub's after 5 minutes?
It wouldnt realy work much if you did not wait for evreything to dissolve.
You migt have gotten a couple mg's out of that 5 minutes but im not sure how much since i havent taken sub's undermy tongue in a long time(I snort my subs it works much better and i can take much less around .5mg)
Ive succesfully come off a 3 bundle a day habit with only 4mg of suboxone spread over a week.
I did go back to usin about a month later but i can say i got clean and actually stayed clean 4 a month till i fucked up.
I know suggesting snorting suboxone is not exactly HARM REDUCTION but it really does work alot better and you dont have to keep it your mouth or anythng all it takes is 2 seconds.
And you're not supposed to snort heavy ur supposed to snort it slow so it stays up there in your nose you shouldnt get a drip right away.Sometimes i get alittle drip like 20 min later but its not bad at all.
And its ok to get it 20 min later cuz if you get it right away its pretty much the same as swallowing the pill which is useless.
Anyways lemme know how you're doin and if you have any ?'s id b glad to anser them if i can.
Hope you're feelin better :)
 
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