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@Disylus - I dont understand the point you just tried to make, are you mental?
Meth - The best timing of redoses
Hey guys,
I was just wondering if anyone had any personal experience or in depth knowledge of methamphetamine to answer a question I have...
When using meth by insufflation, is there a best time to snort more of it to keep the high going at the best euphoria?
Not to tweak out on a binge. Just to have a long day trip of fun adventures with some buds.
I have only used ~80mg last weekend. But I have used 200mg d-amphetamine throughout all of April. So I guess I have a minor tolerance, but still pretty naive. Especially to methamphetamine.
I know that the whole thing behind becoming addicted and doing drugs repeatedly is by chasing the initial high...
But I'm just talking about like two doses in one day to feel nice for like 8-10 hours or so for an intolerant user
Thanks for any responses!
Hey guys,
I was just wondering if anyone had any personal experience or in depth knowledge of methamphetamine to answer a question I have...
When using meth by insufflation, is there a best time to snort more of it to keep the high going at the best euphoria?
Not to tweak out on a binge. Just to have a long day trip of fun adventures with some buds.
I have only used ~80mg last weekend. But I have used 200mg d-amphetamine throughout all of April. So I guess I have a minor tolerance, but still pretty naive. Especially to methamphetamine.
I know that the whole thing behind becoming addicted and doing drugs repeatedly is by chasing the initial high...
But I'm just talking about like two doses in one day to feel nice for like 8-10 hours or so for an intolerant user
Thanks for any responses!
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Yeah, but fuck that shit.
tricomb
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Intoxicun7
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I can say personally, from a lot of trial and error, it seems the best time to do more is when you are feeling like you're getting back to normal but before you get tired. I always judge it by when my appetite starts coming back, but I'm not sure that would apply to everyone.
But basically, time it in between still being high from the first dose and the time you crash. Like when you can tell it's wearing off. As far as an actual amount of time, that varies from person to person, quality of the batch, how much you did, how often you do it, etc. I've just always found that if you wait until you feel the coming down feeling, being tired and maybe irritable or whatever, you've waited too long. At that point, doing more will make you not be tired but probably won't give you much high or euphoria.
The second dose will probably wear off more quickly, though, so theoretically it should be done some time after your intended duration is half over (i.e. you want it to last 10 hours with no more than 2 doses, the second should be done more than 5 hours in, if you can ride the first one out that long).
tricomb
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i would like to point out just one statistic and ill leave it all alone.
smoking has been the cause of death for a massive percentage of people who smoked, and the same for drinkers, and even moreso im sure for meth users, however none of these habits have a 100 % kill rate
but there is one plague upon humanity that does, it is an irrefutable fact that every single person on earth, who has ever breathed has died.
and that death has involved the discontinuation of breathing.
you see its the worst drug of all, because once you take that very first breath, if you stop you die.
so please, anyone for the love of humanity if you truly want to save a life from something that has never failed in the history of the universe to kill, the next time you witness the birth of a baby, when the doctor slaps its ass to make it take that first breath, do the right thing and tackle that peer pressuring a hole and cup you hands tightly over that babies mouth and nose.
cuz can anyone seriously get on here and tell me they know for a fact that doing so would kill the baby? cuz ive checked, no study exists, so you would be posting an admission of guilt to suffocating a newborn urself if you say you know absolutely. never know until you try
for those of you who find this in ill taste and feel that im not taking the drug methemphetamine seriously or what it can do to you, stop and think. how messed up is it to joke about suffocating babies, i dont think more serious is possible. but just because you take something serious in life, doesnt mean you cant still have humor in life. after all, the gravity of a topic shouldnt hold sway over the allowance of humor, otherwise where would all the cancer jokes and 9/11 jokes come from? (besides Al Qaeda, yes thats right i can literally hear you rednecks thinking it, most likely because im stuck here on planet texas with most of you)
Bro you need to put the pipe down.... get some sleep...... then come back and explain what the fuck this post was about.
Real talk^ This man speaks the truth.
Intoxicun7
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Am I the only one who understood Disylus's post? Weird, yeah, but he/she has a point. We're going to die anyway. Being alive is the only thing that will certainly result it death no matter how lucky you are. Not trying to sound morbid or cynical, but I've accepted that, and I'm not trying to avoid things that might make me do exactly what I'm stuck doing anyway (die).
Although, tricomb, I appreciate that you're trying to help me do what's best for myself. I'm currently trying to decide where to go from here, whether I want to quit cold turkey, wait a while and then quit when my current stash runs out, try to cut back to an amount I find acceptable and 'use in moderation' when I really need it, or what. But all these things are issues I have to decide how I feel about. No one can really make the decision for me. And it's especially tricky for me because meth ISN'T just some fun party drug for me. I have pretty rotten health and quality of life, and it allows me to enjoy life and not struggle as much. It's saved my job, saved my relationship, made me productive, etc. But at a high cost. I can't win.
Anyway, pity party over. :D
Swain: Yeah, both meth and coke can do permanent damage to the heart, its lining, and the arteries. But it sounds like the doctor has no way of knowing that's the case. It may go away over time or it may not, but there's no damn way the doctor can tell for sure the had he never done meth, this problem wouldn't exist. If his only problem is an irregular heartbeat, that can be corrected. Before I say anything else, let me point out that I am not a doctor. That said, both my mother and I have irregular heartbeats, we ASSUME from taking birth control for extended periods. Who knows for sure. Anyway, we have both had great success treating it by taking magnesium supplements. According to WebMD and lots of other sources, it is used to treat irregular heartbeat as well as other cardiovascular issues.
[http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-suppl...redientId=998&activeIngredientName=MAGNESIUM]
I absolutely don't recommend taking my word for anything. He should at least research its effects and any risks involved, and preferably ask a pharmacist or doctor if he should try it or if there's any reason he shouldn't. But theoretically it could help heal damage in addition to making him pass any physical. Some doctors stop listening when they hear, "Yeah, I used to do drugs a while back," or see the person is overweight or whatever is easy and obvious to blame. I personally had a doctor ask over and over if I had any stress until I finally changed my answer from 'no' to 'I guess maybe a little now and then'. Then they used that to decide that I (an 11 year old kid at the time) was bleeding internally because of stress (from the horrible burden of.... choosing a cute outfit in the morning and who to sit by at lunch??). They refused to even see me in their offices anymore until I got therapy. So yeah, the doctor may be right or he may not, but it sounds like he isn't considering other possibilities. A second opinion would be good just in case something else is causing it that needs treatment.
Phew. Didn't mean for this to turn into a depressing, page-long post.
Although, tricomb, I appreciate that you're trying to help me do what's best for myself. I'm currently trying to decide where to go from here, whether I want to quit cold turkey, wait a while and then quit when my current stash runs out, try to cut back to an amount I find acceptable and 'use in moderation' when I really need it, or what. But all these things are issues I have to decide how I feel about. No one can really make the decision for me. And it's especially tricky for me because meth ISN'T just some fun party drug for me. I have pretty rotten health and quality of life, and it allows me to enjoy life and not struggle as much. It's saved my job, saved my relationship, made me productive, etc. But at a high cost. I can't win.
Anyway, pity party over. :D
Swain: Yeah, both meth and coke can do permanent damage to the heart, its lining, and the arteries. But it sounds like the doctor has no way of knowing that's the case. It may go away over time or it may not, but there's no damn way the doctor can tell for sure the had he never done meth, this problem wouldn't exist. If his only problem is an irregular heartbeat, that can be corrected. Before I say anything else, let me point out that I am not a doctor. That said, both my mother and I have irregular heartbeats, we ASSUME from taking birth control for extended periods. Who knows for sure. Anyway, we have both had great success treating it by taking magnesium supplements. According to WebMD and lots of other sources, it is used to treat irregular heartbeat as well as other cardiovascular issues.
[http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-suppl...redientId=998&activeIngredientName=MAGNESIUM]
I absolutely don't recommend taking my word for anything. He should at least research its effects and any risks involved, and preferably ask a pharmacist or doctor if he should try it or if there's any reason he shouldn't. But theoretically it could help heal damage in addition to making him pass any physical. Some doctors stop listening when they hear, "Yeah, I used to do drugs a while back," or see the person is overweight or whatever is easy and obvious to blame. I personally had a doctor ask over and over if I had any stress until I finally changed my answer from 'no' to 'I guess maybe a little now and then'. Then they used that to decide that I (an 11 year old kid at the time) was bleeding internally because of stress (from the horrible burden of.... choosing a cute outfit in the morning and who to sit by at lunch??). They refused to even see me in their offices anymore until I got therapy. So yeah, the doctor may be right or he may not, but it sounds like he isn't considering other possibilities. A second opinion would be good just in case something else is causing it that needs treatment.
Phew. Didn't mean for this to turn into a depressing, page-long post.
tricomb
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IMO, there's no easy way to taper off amphetamines, I've always found it best to just quit cold turkey, maybe using time released pharmaceutical amps like Dexedrine XR for a few days, but doing a taper with actual methamphetamine? Let's just say even I couldn't do that. The only way I can still use crystal is very infrequently, and I know exactly what would happen if I had tried to taper when I quit regular use.
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Intoxicun7
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Well, I don't have a physical addiction to it (by some profound miracle) so my issues to overcome are liking its effects on my life (the health thing), and being too much of a baby to wanna deal with coming down/readjusting/depleted seratonin. Tapering would help the detox part, instead of having to deal with a week of being tired and unhappy. As for the health effects, if I kept some around for special occasions, I could do a little to prepare me for a first day of work or any extra challenging yet important responsibilities. But it's so ambiguous. "Occasional" turns into regular to frequent to 5 times a day, like right now. "Never" is a bigger commitment but harder to justify my way out of. So I don't know. Maybe a limit or something would help.
Now's a good time for me to decide, though, because I've got money to be jobless for another couple of months and can take time to detox. And I need to figure something out. My circulation and skin are suffering more than what is worth the benefits at this point.
Thorns Have Roses
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I dunno man, I think stimulants are too more-ish for tapering to be a viable option for most people. I'd think going CT, then using your continued jobless time to eat really nutritious foods, and maybe take some supplements to help restock neurotransmitters and get your brain/body more healthy would be the best plan. Maybe smoke a good amount of herb (I'd hate to recommend any kind of downer so you don't swap addictions) during the first week or so of abstinence to make the extreme lethargy more pleasant and dampen psychological effects.
Of course, I'm not too enamored with uppers and have never used meth for more than a few days in a row so my opinion isn't too qualifed. Maybe somebody else could give imput.
tricomb
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Definitely don't use pain killers to mask symptoms of underlying conditions, unless specifically ordered to do so by a doctor. Chances of a doctor prescribing opioids for methamphetamine abuse = snowballs chance in hell.
This is an example of one of your posts that could use more harm reduction
Im just saying that if ur trying to get off meth and u tapering off. Using painmeds really does help with the unhappy part. Also with some pain pills amp people up.going to a doc yea right. I dont think a doc would perscribe m_amp pils to a meth user ethier.
tricomb
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Well it's best HR not to encourage people to seek illegal narcotics not prescribed to them (it's also against the rules), especially to get off methamphetamine.
That's trading one addiction for another, and is not considered HR, it's only acceptable when it's necessary to actually reduce harm, like when IV heroin addicts switch to controlled oral methadone dosing, for example.
That's trading one addiction for another, and is not considered HR, it's only acceptable when it's necessary to actually reduce harm, like when IV heroin addicts switch to controlled oral methadone dosing, for example.
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Bluelighter
That made me lol.
I'm jwing...what is it that you guys get out of meth? Like...I knowd it sounds dumb...but even on heroin me and my friends would go "atleast im not a meth addict (or crack)"
Like, idk. What's the feeling that makes you come back? I got tricked into smoking crack once and did coke mad times and I HATED it always. I would just do it cause I got it for free mostly.
Folley
Bluelighter
It feels so fucking good.. opiates could never compare to a fat vapor hit..
At least I don't have to constantly dose to keep withdrawals away though. Haven't had any msince that first time I smoked however... holy FUCK I want more though. But no... that would not be good.
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Bluelighter
Lol. No offence but I notice jsut like this post alot of meth addicts seem to not make sense. Plus t he whole teeth thing.
Everyone's brain is set up differently. Different people are going to be more susceptible to becoming addicted to different drugs. Everyone relax
.I didn't realize coke was like meth as far as doing damage to your body. I know that meth actually destroys brain tissue or grey matter which I think I read they called it.
Honestly I am really glad meth is practically non existant around here. I mean I am sure it's around a little, but after 8 years of copping primarily call and meet but also a lot of cold copping, I have never been offered meth not have I heard of anyone even doing it over here. If it did exist I would have probably ended up making a stupid decision and trying it.
I have been fuckin with coke but now I am starting to think thats a bad choice too. Heroin aside from dependecy doesn;t really do damage to your body. You can essentialyl fully recover.