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Higher purity crystal methamphetine

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Yep. Both had very similar characteristics, contained insoluble cuts and were picked up from the same source. Meth in the first pic being slightly more pure than the second, which contained a soluble as well as an insoluble cut. The second also left a fair bit more residue when broken(possibly msm?)

Shapes of the crystals in the first pic also look very similar to Isopropylbenzylamine I might add
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Isopropylbenzylamine_DEA0308.jpg
 
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The gear I came accross was considerably cloudier than the crystals above but very similar in shape. I think the colour had something to do with impurities though as the gear had a very strong ketone smell.

How did the 2 kinds of gear recrystalize in a pipe (if you smoked it) ?
 
Sameria said:
Yes I've recently come accross it in the Sydney area and hearing about it steadily more and more accross the country. The gear I sampled was quite a distinct cloudy white colour, slightly unusally shaped, elongated crystals with a very strong acetone smell when crushed. It did seem a little wet too. This stuff was horrible to smoke. It turned into black oil and then tar very quickly and taste shocking, plus it leaves a headache. Don't think I'll bother with meth again if it's all going to be cut with this rubbish...who knows how bad it is for you.
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Sameria said:
The gear I came accross was considerably cloudier than the crystals above but very similar in shape. I think the colour had something to do with impurities though as the gear had a very strong ketone smell.

How did the 2 kinds of gear recrystalize in a pipe (if you smoked it) ?
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After reading that, I'm pretty positive we both had something completely different. Meth in the first pic has pretty much no taste to it at all and was very clean! Also doesn't cook and barely leaves a stain in the bowl, just a very faint brown outline where the puddle had evaporated.
Crystallization in the bowl was mainly/if not all in the one direction. No moisture was present and had only a very slight ketone smell to it, but it's barely noticeable.
 
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Hmmm actually I think I may have come accross that first stuff too. I didn't smoke much of it but when I consumed orally I noticed it didn't taste anywhere near as strong/bitter as it should have. The rocks seemed more elongated and 'finger like' than usual as well. The shards were near see through like those in the first pic.
 
dont mean to state the obvious but there would be hundreds if not thousands of different batches of ice floating around au.. having the same stuff is probably a very low posibility
 
Lol that just reminded me of the weekend where 3 of us rocked up with the EXACT same gear.

Yeah, just stating the fact that there is/may be a fair amount of Isopropylbenzylamine floating around aus atm ;)
 
What do you mean by 'ketone' smell? A smell is always an impurity, most often benzoic acid, but perhaps ammonia; regardless, it isn't specific to ketone but rather impure shit.
 
Ahh ok. Yeah it didn't make such sense, having meth smell like speed.


-Btw the meth in the first pic is of 'fair' quality, my guess is about 20-25% Just not sure about putting Isopropylbenzylamine in to your lungs.. that all
 
I have to second what AndyTurbo said about there being hundreds if not thousands of batches of meth/ice in Aus, I mean there is probably not so many at a high end but when you consider the different circles they pass through and different cutters in varying amounts that any given dealer will add before it reaches the end user the odds of a few randoms on the internet scoring the same gear more often than not are extremely slim.

It is quite funny that in recent months people have been complaining I have noticed an increase in quality, whereas a few months prior to that I was copping crys that wasn't even worth the discounted price tag on it. Granted I have changed sources but I got off a new one (for shards anyway) yesterday and while it definately had a strange cutter in a sense that it tended to discolour easily and wasn't as good as my main guys tends to be it smoked out well and gave a good long lasting high.

I also have to agree that smoking has a very long lasting high it is just that the euphoria isn't quite so long lasting, also I believe since smoked meth hits practically instantly and you are watching the pipe as you smoke it this creates a positive reinforcement which makes one crave the actual act of smoking the pipe, this is what I tend to find leads to fiending but once I run out of gear and can't keep toking I am certainly stimulated for a period which rivals, if not outlasts, that of insufflation. IME oral amphetamines suck dick but it does last longer than other ROA. I am yet to try slamming and doubt I ever will with stimulants, so I can't compare that.

Bit cracked out at the minute, as though it isn't half obvious, fuck this shit is expensive... if only it was still 2007...
 
Hey everyone, its been awhile since i have been on bluelight, I have been reading through the comments people have made about the lesser quality lately. I havent noticed any drop to be honest. just got some other day and the batch is definately up there with one of the best i have gotten. The meth rocks were dry in texture, no smell at all, small rock shapes, frostered in colour (not as clear asive seen).

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What do you mean by 'ketone' smell? A smell is always an impurity, most often benzoic acid, but perhaps ammonia; regardless, it isn't specific to ketone but rather impure shit.
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Ketone>speed>cat piss?
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I always thought crystal meth when made proper should have no noticeable smell, mind you the times when i have got some crystals that have a noticeable 'cat piss' smell or bought some smokeable base they always give a harder hitting buzz then 'normal crystal'
 
cat piss = ammonia... it's commonly thought of as smelling like cat piss, and commonly used in cooks.

Ketone (P2P/Phenylacetone) used in cooking racemic meth - i'd be more inclined to believe that pseudoephedrine reduction is probably the most commonly used method in aus. It's not hard to get enough pseudo for a small batch, probably not any more difficult than getting codeine these days (sans for them recording your info so you can't get it from the same places too often). I've never noticed a difference in scent between supposed racemic and d-isomer meth.
 
How did the 2 kinds of gear recrystalize in a pipe (if you smoked it) ?
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It (isopropylbenzylamine) recrystalises very quickly, much faster than standard meth because of its higher boiling point and the absence of MSM. It also sets in a funny shape, almost like a bicycle wheel with spokes. I cannot really describe it but it is very noticeable and different to any other gear I have seen.
 
Just remembered that i've heard of meth being mixed/cut with speed as well which might explain the ammonia smell in some cases too.
 
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MrIbis said:
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Ketone (P2P/Phenylacetone) used in cooking racemic meth
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It's interesting that you were specific in stating racemic meth*. I would have though the number of cooks out thee would want to make a specific enatomier let alone have the knowledge of even how to separate/synth each isomer! (granted I dont know many cooks but my image of what I think of is a person who mightnt/doesn't even know the chemic of what/why theyre mixing these chemicals - they pretty much just do what theyve been told - a kind "passed own knowledge" so they take what they have to do as gosbel**)



A q for you d_m (or anyone who also knows a bit bout the US drug market/culture) I heard about "coke bottle cooks" (think that's what they were called) and how there was/is(?) a spate of hospital arrivals/ambulance call out due to chemical inhalation/burns/etc. Does this ring a bell to anyone and/or has there been an increase of these types of clandestine "labs" here in Aus? I havent heard specifically in Aus but had done (few years or so now) in the US.





* that is unless you were being specific just for completeness...then just disregard what I said after this! :D

** I saw this, like I said without really knowing any cooks! I'm happy if someone were to tell me otherwise! ^_^
 
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Oh another note, have we had any info re the health effects of isopropylbenzylamine? I know people who have tried all kinds of ROA (IV, sublingual, smoked, etc) and it passes the "smoke test"! That is, noone I know has died yet so thats a good first sign!
 
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You'd be refering to the 'shake a and bake method'..extreamly dangerous due to pressurebuild up and 3 different reactions happening in the one containor. For a start your ammonia is reacting with your lithium, which then requires water to be added into the solution (and lithium is water reactive!) and pressure builds like a mother fucker... u need to do it holding the bottle and realease the pressure in the bottle every so often to not cause an explosion..but if u let it out to much to much oxygen and you have an explosion yet again. Sparks are often seen in the bottle whilst shaking it.. whilst this reactions are occuring there obviously a shit load of flammable gases- extreamly dangerous. Trust americans to come up with such a way :)
 
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