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Higher purity crystal methamphetine

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^ It's best to stay away from availability discussion. I haven't been to the states, but from what I've read you seem more likely to get it purer over there then here. I'm not in the scene though, so be prepared for me to be corrected. ;)
 
As with most drugs, it's all about who you know. Meth is _HUGE_ in the states tho, people cooking it in hotel room baths and whatnot, it's almost like someone in most streets cooks it (not that brutal but it just seems it heh), especially watch a few "meth crisis" type docos, there's fookloads of meth in USA, especially compared to Aus, well I can't speak much of the past 4ish years. I first had amphetamines 24-25 years ago, went 'hard' for probably half of that time, as in (almost) every weekend in the year, sometimes stay up for 10-14 days when I had holidays from work etc.

I find it 'funny' about people saying meth kills your teeth etc, it's more the lifestyle of "meth heads" not keeping good (oral) hygiene and generally not looking after themselves. I _always_ made it a point to eat, brush 'normal', doing it too often is almost as bad as not doing it (much/at all) and mouth wash etc. From my experience, meth was VERY pure for 'cheap', seems lately prices of skyrocketed so I'd say it would be harder for people to get a good cheap 'pure' source so to speak. I'm glad I was into meth(amphetamines) in the times when they were cheap ;)

Now with my nerve damage, I don't want to use meth, _maybe_ once a year or two (or three) kind of thing for a friends b/day or big special occasion but that's going to be hard now. Our 1 1/2 year old daughter dictates I don't stay out/up all night etc Life is much more fun watching her dance + jump about at home and when we go out. Plus it's CHHEEAAAPER heheh. Well sometimes, buying clothes just for fun cause they look cute for our daughter can get expensive :P Speaking of which, we're off to go out to buy stuff for Cassie after lunch LOL
 
Sounds right to me wazza. Don't know how you did 14 days dude! I'm pretty much done after 24 hours...bit of a wuss you might say :)

Seen a fair few meth docos as well, one called 'ice age' about some Sydney users ...seems things have changed a lot since then though.

Depends who you know but I'd guess generally, you'd be looking at much higher prices and more adulterated meth compared to US.

Not always the case though and with other drugs I'd be hesitant to make the comparison...since OD isn't such a factor with meth I think it's ok.

Nice one wazz kids are way better than drugs :D not quite as harmful on the body/mind as frequent amphet use. Probably worse on the wallet though.
 
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Sounds right to me wazza. Don't know how you did 14 days dude! I'm pretty much done after 24 hours...bit of a wuss you might say :)

Seen a fair few meth docos as well, one called 'ice age' about some Sydney users ...seems things have changed a lot since then though.

Depends who you know but I'd guess generally, you'd be looking at much higher prices and more adulterated meth compared to US.

Not always the case though and with other drugs I'd be hesitant to make the comparison...since OD isn't such a factor with meth I think it's ok.

Nice one wazz kids are way better than drugs :D not quite as harmful on the body/mind as frequent amphet use. Probably worse on the wallet though.
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i disagree with you mate. Unlike what you've seen in the news, net etc, meth is only really established in about half of the USA unlike here where its nation wide, so alot of areas over there would have small inexperienced cooks producing low purity methamp whereas here a vast majority is either imported or made in large labs.
There are differences between australia and USA in respect to their meth markets. In america the vast majority of meth is smokeable of different purities and appearence. Their butter meth is the lower purity meth they smoke, and then crystal they call glass grade which is clear high quality crystals made in ,mexican labs. Here we have meth that is orally consumed which we call speed/base etc that is of low purity. then we have shaboo/ice/crystal that are clear (mostly) and of high purity.

all of australia and about half of the usa have simular meth. From low-average quality to high purity crystal from either mexico or china. In australia if meth leaves dark residue it is not seen as ice or crystal, it has to leave little to no residue, whereas in the usa all meth is seen as the same just of different quality. what is normally seen in australia as ice/crystal is what is seen in the usa as 'glass' and our lower purity base form of meth is very simular to their butter meth.
 
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Cite? And on meth only being established in half the USA as well that just doesn't seem right...
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its harder too find on the east coast... according to the americans i talk too.

hardly unestablished, just people prefer cocaine for some reason... i bet you can get meth in every american city.


Honestly i think meth production in oz is mostly made right here
Lots of smallish (mostly bikies?) cooks following simple recipes and selling it off in their area

Don't get me wrong "smallish" can be a whole kilo made over a few days and "their area" can be the whole state or even whole east/west coast.

That'd account for your differences in batches from city too city, state too state.


Then again a fair chunk would be imported from asian superlabs.

maybe they even bring some in from mexico..
 
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IMHO it would be pretty hard to compare Aus's meth scene to that of the US, as the US drug scene varies a great fucking deal depending exactly where in the US you are talking about, there are some places it wouldn't even be considered a mainstream drug and cocaine/crack/heroin use are more prevalent.

Even Australia's scene varies between regions, I can wholeheartedly say that the Northern NSW and QLD's meth scenes for example that I have seen, read or been told about are completely different to the meth scene down here. For one thing smoking is less prevalent, particularly among users of 'speed', in Melbourne I don't know anyone who will purchase a non smokable product, but the northern parts of Aus seem flooded with this gooey base shit.

In general its obviously cheaper in the US, there is heaps of local production and both countries sharing a land border with the US (Canada and Mexico) are huge meth producers. Even though meth is produced domestically in Australia the crooks still like us to pay out our arse like we do for imported shit. I couldn't speculate on quality difference, one thing I will say is that shitty powdered or gunk forms of meth seem to be less tolerated/sought after in the US than Aus. It seems there is a stigma associated with meth in general over there, so if you are going to use it fuck it you want ICE. Over here less concentrated forms don't bear the same stigma as shards do, and there are many users who will use speed or base which is just cut up meth but swear black and blue ice is the devil.
 
Was shown some crystal that was a cola colour yesterday (a light brown). Tested some, it tasted ok but wasnt very strong, ill stick to the clear ones like the in my avartar pic which i got yesterday.

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Was shown some crystal that was a cola colour yesterday (a light brown). Tested some, it tasted ok but wasnt very strong, ill stick to the clear ones like the in my avartar pic which i got yesterday.
 
just wondering...

im from melbourne and im into the city scene there, i personally smoke 'shard'
i have been smoking new stuff lately and i have noticed compared to the other stuff i have had is different, the new stuff is alot thicker and smokes longer and has more smoke from it. in opinion is this good? because i get a better high and rush from it compared to the old stuff i had.
 
Well if you're getting a better and longer high and a better rush from it, then I guess it is most certainly better. Although more smoke could indicate more cut with the product that is burning instead of vaporising.
 
It could be an active cut, e.g. one of the RC's like desoxypipradrol, MDPV or mephedrone. Wouldn't surprise me any... despite being illegal/banned themselves, they're still probably cheaper and easier to obtain.
 
Threads merged. Welcome to bluelight tktramp :) Please use the search engine in future before starting a new thread though; it helps to keep discussions on the same topic restricted to a small number of threads.
 
Dedbeet said:
It could be an active cut, e.g. one of the RC's like desoxypipradrol, MDPV or mephedrone. Wouldn't surprise me any... despite being illegal/banned themselves, they're still probably cheaper and easier to obtain.
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meph don't smoke too good brah, incase you didnt know.

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Hey what was the go with that talk of 4-methylaminorex doing the rounds of aus recently?
 
Hey what was the go with that talk of 4-methylaminorex doing the rounds of aus recently?
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I can't speak for the other states, but there was some doing the rounds in Adelaide towards the end of December.
 
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I can't speak for the other states, but there was some doing the rounds in Adelaide towards the end of December.
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someones got some skills, luck and balls of steel, the reagants aint too friendly for how easy the cook is.

hope it comes around again sometime:)
 
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