tricomb
Bluelight Crew
As many of you already know, Wax is reportedly one of the most potent forms of all the great cannabinoids we know and love, the usual suspects (THC, CBD, CBN, etc) by mass. It's texture varies heavily based on a number of factors, but perhaps most importantly based on the solvent used.
Common solvents for extracting cannabinoids from raw cannabis include cold water, a purified version of butane, carbon dioxide, alcohols, etc and all of these have an effect on the final product.
Once extracted using the solvent, the next step is obviously, to make sure that none of the solvent ends up in the final product. The method of doing so varies depending on solvent used, etc, but around here most dispensaries sell waxes that were extracted using butane or CO2. However, good wax shouldn't contain leftover solvent, therefore most waxes at the dispensaries made from butane say "Butane-Free" on them. Wax that was inadequately heated flushed and whipped under vacuum can contain bubbles, indicating trapped butane/solvent or air and generally an inferior/cheaper product with a harsher inhalation experience.
For the medical marijuana patient, obviously, we don't want leftover butane in our medicine. CO2 is much more harmless in general because our lungs regularly deal with CO2. When the incorrect type of butane is used, impurities and contaminates and residues can end up in the final product which is totally unacceptable, which is why a lot of dispensaries have their concentrates lab tested which also reveals the THC levels which regularly see 80% to the high 90%s, I've heard some have even yielded 99.* % compared to most non-concentrated cannabis/weed, which is often lucky to see double digit % to mid 20% THC content....
Therefore, one can administer a very high dose of cannabinoids rapidly. Dabbing has been around since the '90s or so according to my research, I'd love to hear back from any other BLers who dab wax.
I'm most interested to know about the health consequences of dabbing. Dabbing involves using an attachment piece for glass bongs, either an oil dome (which I prefer) or a skillet/hash bell (sucks IMO).
Basically you use a butane/propane torch to heat up the (ideally) titanium (or sometimes glass) nail until it's glowing red, then drop the glass dome around it and apply the dab of wax to the nail, inhaling the vapor that results from the solid wax coming into contact with the hot nail and rapidly changing states from solid to liquid to gaseous/vapor form. Vaporization via oil dome surely should be healthier than smoking, as there is no combustion, no poly aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), no tar, so in theory, there should be no carcinogens, right?
Is dabbing healthier than smoking? It can make you cough quite hard, but THC itself naturally induces the cough reflex as it is irritating to the pulmonary membranes, so, the extra coughing could possibly be indicative of the very high THC content in the vapor, much more concentrated than an inhalation/hit of smoked cannabis.
Some things I've noticed:
-Like any chronic high dose user knows, with regular use comes tolerance to many of the aspects of smoking, including the cough reflex in many users. Back when I smoked a lot of high medicinal quality cannabis, hashes, and keifs, I would be well accustomed to smoke and I would rarely cough. Just like when I used to smoke cigarettes, I coughed a little at first but rapidly got over it and after a while, even the harsh carcinogenic smoke of a cancer stick can feel just fine (rather misleadingly).
-This is NOT the case with dabbing wax. I have been exclusively dabbing for months now, and I still cough just as hard, seemingly dose proportionally, which is what made me suspect earlier it could be indicative of the extra high THC content in the inhaled vapor.
-My tolerance initially grew slightly and slowly and then plateaued; I started out dabbing ~25mg dabs PRN through the day, and now on extra painful days I could easily consume a gram or more over the course of the day of the best most potent wax one could find. Without getting into the unspeakable, it may seem expensive but as far as pain management goes, lots of wax pales in comparison to the amount of money one could spend on prescription opioids to achieve the same quality of life. As far as I've experienced, the benefits far outweigh the risks that I am aware of. I'm hoping this thread might help fill in the blanks on the risks I might not know I'm taking.
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So, BL dabbers, how long have you been dabbing, how often do you dab, and how big are your dabs?
Do you require ever escalating doses?
Do you think it is a more Harm Reductive way to get rapid onset and benefits from cannabinoids?
It's vaporized highly potent form of hash, so I figure it would be but I'm not a healthcare professional, and would value the input of the BL CD Community. I don't post in here as often as I should but I reviewed the stickies and I performed multiple searches.
Thanks
-Daily Dabber
Common solvents for extracting cannabinoids from raw cannabis include cold water, a purified version of butane, carbon dioxide, alcohols, etc and all of these have an effect on the final product.
Once extracted using the solvent, the next step is obviously, to make sure that none of the solvent ends up in the final product. The method of doing so varies depending on solvent used, etc, but around here most dispensaries sell waxes that were extracted using butane or CO2. However, good wax shouldn't contain leftover solvent, therefore most waxes at the dispensaries made from butane say "Butane-Free" on them. Wax that was inadequately heated flushed and whipped under vacuum can contain bubbles, indicating trapped butane/solvent or air and generally an inferior/cheaper product with a harsher inhalation experience.
For the medical marijuana patient, obviously, we don't want leftover butane in our medicine. CO2 is much more harmless in general because our lungs regularly deal with CO2. When the incorrect type of butane is used, impurities and contaminates and residues can end up in the final product which is totally unacceptable, which is why a lot of dispensaries have their concentrates lab tested which also reveals the THC levels which regularly see 80% to the high 90%s, I've heard some have even yielded 99.* % compared to most non-concentrated cannabis/weed, which is often lucky to see double digit % to mid 20% THC content....
Therefore, one can administer a very high dose of cannabinoids rapidly. Dabbing has been around since the '90s or so according to my research, I'd love to hear back from any other BLers who dab wax.
I'm most interested to know about the health consequences of dabbing. Dabbing involves using an attachment piece for glass bongs, either an oil dome (which I prefer) or a skillet/hash bell (sucks IMO).
Basically you use a butane/propane torch to heat up the (ideally) titanium (or sometimes glass) nail until it's glowing red, then drop the glass dome around it and apply the dab of wax to the nail, inhaling the vapor that results from the solid wax coming into contact with the hot nail and rapidly changing states from solid to liquid to gaseous/vapor form. Vaporization via oil dome surely should be healthier than smoking, as there is no combustion, no poly aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), no tar, so in theory, there should be no carcinogens, right?
Is dabbing healthier than smoking? It can make you cough quite hard, but THC itself naturally induces the cough reflex as it is irritating to the pulmonary membranes, so, the extra coughing could possibly be indicative of the very high THC content in the vapor, much more concentrated than an inhalation/hit of smoked cannabis.
Some things I've noticed:
-Like any chronic high dose user knows, with regular use comes tolerance to many of the aspects of smoking, including the cough reflex in many users. Back when I smoked a lot of high medicinal quality cannabis, hashes, and keifs, I would be well accustomed to smoke and I would rarely cough. Just like when I used to smoke cigarettes, I coughed a little at first but rapidly got over it and after a while, even the harsh carcinogenic smoke of a cancer stick can feel just fine (rather misleadingly).
-This is NOT the case with dabbing wax. I have been exclusively dabbing for months now, and I still cough just as hard, seemingly dose proportionally, which is what made me suspect earlier it could be indicative of the extra high THC content in the inhaled vapor.
-My tolerance initially grew slightly and slowly and then plateaued; I started out dabbing ~25mg dabs PRN through the day, and now on extra painful days I could easily consume a gram or more over the course of the day of the best most potent wax one could find. Without getting into the unspeakable, it may seem expensive but as far as pain management goes, lots of wax pales in comparison to the amount of money one could spend on prescription opioids to achieve the same quality of life. As far as I've experienced, the benefits far outweigh the risks that I am aware of. I'm hoping this thread might help fill in the blanks on the risks I might not know I'm taking.
----------------------------
So, BL dabbers, how long have you been dabbing, how often do you dab, and how big are your dabs?
Do you require ever escalating doses?
Do you think it is a more Harm Reductive way to get rapid onset and benefits from cannabinoids?
It's vaporized highly potent form of hash, so I figure it would be but I'm not a healthcare professional, and would value the input of the BL CD Community. I don't post in here as often as I should but I reviewed the stickies and I performed multiple searches.
Thanks
-Daily Dabber
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Its easy to get for me, some are not so lucky
I first bubblebag and dry ice to get the trichomes, then dissolve them in chloroform[TCM], for 20 minutes, with shaking, filter with two coffee filters together, then lay our in pyrex dish in sun to evap!! No loss of terpenes, tastes heavenly, and no coughing..nearly,lol. CANNOT BE BEATEN by any other method, and is very fast compared to most methods!
