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The reason I like Bluelight so much is coz the people on here are all real nice. I joined Bluelight at the start of the big bad heroin drought as did many many other posters.

Now, I will admit that there were a few crossed words when I first signed up with Bluelight. I guess it must have been strange for the regular posters on here when the drought hit and hoards on heroin users flooded onto the forum. So yeah, I had a few harsh comments like "get back to your junky thread" when I first started posting outside the heroin thread on Bluelight. There will always be one or two smart arses, but 99.9% of the people on Bluelight are really sound.

I've made great mates on here. I've had a laugh with people. When I've been down people have been here to help me back up and I've got amazing advice from people on here. In-fact coz of the amazing people and good advice on Bluelight I'm hoping to give up smoking cigarettes after been a smoker for the last 26 years! Bluelight rocks! I love this forum! ♥

I read a lot, I have a Kindle and I love hunting down good books on-line. So, I often visit the forums on Amazon and I visit Goodreads. You'd image places like that would be full of mature people discussing books? WRONG! I've seen some of the worst bullying on Amazon forums and on Goodreads. Its really sickening to watch.

The main victims are Self Published Authors, now I love SPA, their books are always really cheap or often free! But besides that I've found some really quirky off the wall books written by Self Published Authors. But for some reason people love to tear SP authors to pieces. I've stood up for these authors many a time only to be torn apart myself.

Its horrible when it happens. Its not that bad for me coz all they can do is call me nasty names, but its really dreadful for the Self Published Authors coz the on-line bullies attack the authors first with words, but then they attack their books leaving countless nasty one star reviews. I've seen so many amazing authors careers destroyed by these bullies. Bad reviews ruin book sales, so a Self Published Author has no chance. The mad thing is that Amazon and Goodreads are awear of this, yet they don't seem to care.

There is an organized gang on the Amazon (USA) forums and they are on Goodreads as well, there are about 70 of them (many are sock puppet accounts) And for some reason they terrorise Self Published Authors. Its really bad. Its that bad that there are now anti bully blogs dedicated to those two sites. (one interesting blog is called STGRB which stands for Stop The Goodreads Bullies)

I hate to see any type of bullying on the internet. Its such a cowardly thing to do. There have been countless suicides around the world as a direct result to on-line bullying. Its horrible and it has to stop. I love Bluelight coz you don't get any of that crap here! ♥

 

[parttime crackhead]

Freedom of speech is one thing. Using the Internet as an avenue for bullying is another. And it seems these 2 naughty schoolgirls trounced all over that line of virtuousness.

Though, I feel the fines are exorbitant for a couple of schoolgirls who didnt know any better.Im sure a slap on the wrist and a lesson on cyber bullying would have done the trick.

Folk take this whole 'anti-bullying' thing well too far these days. Cunts need to get a grip. When I was at school bullying was just kind of part of life. If someone got the shit kicked out them then aye, it had went too far & someone needed to step in but getting called names? C'mon to fuck. If you can't deal with getting called names at school then you've got no fucking business being at school. If someone had called the polis back in the day coz another wee girl was calling their wee girl a slut the polis would have came round & skelped whoever made the phone call.

The big crack down on bullying is helping raise a generation of utter shite kids. They think they can get away with acting like total zoomers because they didn't get bullied enough at school. You need someone taking the piss out you, or someone kicking fuck out you, every so often to remind you not to act like a fanny. I work with a wee guy who's only 18, not long out of school. The other day he was on the internet & shouting "Look at these! I've just bought some Ugg booties for my dog!". The cunt thought it was OK to buy Ugg boots for his dug! Then proceeded to tell us about feeding it 3 course meals, his maw buying it a bed (not a dog bed!) with a memory foam mattress etc. Total batshit madness. He obviously didn't get bullied at school or he'd have learned to not do that shit, or at least to keep quiet about it.

 

[Myshkin]

It's all very well to champion 'free speech', but the fact is that (in the eyes of the law at least) anything you make available on the internet is essentially published material, available to the entire world, and not speech. It's a simple enough distinction, whatever you may think about it.

I can call your dad a paedo until I'm blue in the face. If I were to distribute a flyer with the same allegations on it, however, I'd expect a knock from the rozzers. That's the way it works, and it's the way it's worked for decades - even with pre-internet self-published media. It's nothing to do with 'today's kids' or anything of the sort. It's to do with the very public nature of the internet.

Essentially, these people were making information public which had the potential to harm the reputations of others. Simple 'name calling' it ain't.

Anybody who disagrees can feel free to post their name, address, drugs of choice, local pub and sexual proclivities in this thread, yeah?

Don't be shy...

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Websites running such views as discussed here are known for being the domains of poorly researched 'opinion'. To try and compare them with serious defamation libel cases is disingenuous and wrong. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, however wrong or poorly researched, and it is the nature of such internet views and opinion that they are soon largely forgotten. British libel and defamation law, the costliest and most damage-awarding in the whole world, needs to evolve to match the growth of the Internet. The alternative is further restrictions on your individual freedom and an even bigger imbalance of power for those able to afford the courts and those who can't.

This is one area where the US, for all their Prismatic faults, leave this country standing. Trudeau is allowed to publish stuff in Doonesbury that would have him bankrupt and jailed over here.

 

[Myshkin]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, however wrong or poorly researched

Having an opinion is one thing. Flagrantly attempting to publicly sully the reputation of an individual or group is something else entirely.

If you're prepared to do the latter without solid proof of your assertions or access to a damn good lawyer, then you should be prepared to face the consequences.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Having an opinion is one thing. Flagrantly attempting to publicly sully the reputation of an individual or group is something else entirely.

If you're prepared to do the latter without solid proof of your assertions or access to a damn good lawyer, then you should be prepared to face the consequences.

It's called life, it's called politics, big P little p take your pick, but I don't think you need to break a butterfly on a wheel. The iniquitous law (for which you need a 'damn good lawyer', not just any lawyer, for it is not about the law rather the personalities that play at it yes?) needs to get a sense of perspective.

 

[Myshkin]

It's called life, it's called politics, big P little p take your pick, but I don't think you need to break a butterfly on a wheel. The iniquitous law (for which you need a 'damn good lawyer', not just any lawyer, for it is not about the law rather the personalities that play at it yes?) needs to get a sense of perspective.

If you're prepared to publish allegations about somebody, then either make sure they're somehow verifiable or hire somebody who can get you out of trouble when your allegations are challenged in court.

I don't think it's a matter of 'perspective' as to whether an allegation is verifiable or not. If you don't value your privacy (or if you think the allegations are trivial) then that's your prerogative. The law says that people have the right to challenge such assertions in court. How else do you propose they should challenge them?

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

If you're prepared to publish allegations about somebody, then either make sure they're somehow verifiable or hire somebody who can get you out of trouble when your allegations are challenged in court.

Were talking about schoolgirls (I thought you might show some leniency, can't think why ). Don't you think 'if you're prepared to PUBLISH allegations' sounds slightly pompous in the circumstances? No? Ok.

The widespread dissemination of information far pre-dates the internet. It goes back to the introduction of print media itself. The publishers who then, and now, needed to be kept within the law, indeed, have laws made for them, were and are powerful owners (and therefore politically powerful) of a powerful tool.

I do not agree that the same laws that were made to prevent abuse by already powerful people with political clout can be applied in the same way to Swedish schoolgirls. The Internet is rapidly proving the old maxim the law is an ass, daily.

I'm surprised, a little, you stand in favour of antediluvian authority.

 

[knock]

I agree that the authority which dictates acceptable speech is the wrong one, SHM. But a valid authority, a grass roots "prole" authority, might well find some overlap with the views of our present day "superiors". When speech causes harm there is good reason to limit its scope, although socialisation would be a superior mechanism to vicious punishment, no doubt. Roll on our future, compassionate proletarian socialisation mechanisms.

 

[Ceres]

Thought Crime

jail the parents I say.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Fu-king hell.

 

[Mailmonkey]

Folk take this whole 'anti-bullying' thing well too far these days.

I work with a wee guy who's only 18, not long out of school. The other day he was on the internet & shouting "Look at these! I've just bought some Ugg booties for my dog!". The cunt thought it was OK to buy Ugg boots for his dug! Then proceeded to tell us about feeding it 3 course meals, his maw buying it a bed (not a dog bed!) with a memory foam mattress etc. Total batshit madness. He obviously didn't get bullied at school or he'd have learned to not do that shit, or at least to keep quiet about it.

lol, I've heard you mention this twat before.