Hey all! Need a little painkiller advice..

[walkinglife]

So, I'm definitely a recreational drug user. I don't really go near opiates. A normal drug for me to use is cannabis, cocaine, and MDMA. Nothing too heavy, you know? So I'm definitely a drug lightweight. Well, a lightweight all around.

I've been cleaning my house all day today, and my dad was previously a very,very heavy painkiller user. Oxycodone, percs, vicodins, etc. etc. I stumbled across a pill container, and decided to check it out. I discovered 3 round white pills that say "Watson 932" which I found out was oxycodone, and these little yellow octagon-shaped pills with the number 40 on them, and nothing on the other side. After some perusing on here, I gathered that it was oxymorphone. From what I've read thus far, I see that the highs are completely different. I'm really curious to try out both of them...but a lot of avid painkiller users couldn't warn the reader enough to tread lightly with the Opanas (which is what I'm thinking they are) If they are really Opanas, how much should I sniff? If it helps, I'm short, 115 lbs, and female. I know for a fact that makes a difference in tolerance Dad's obviously twice my weight and a foot higher, so he was probably able to handle these pills.

What I'm asking here is, [moderator edit] should I take them? If so, how much should I take? Any tips/pointers? I'm not really a fan of a downer/dreamy high...much more like an elevated, euphoric high. I read that the Opanas give the dreamy high. Please, share your experiences in as much detail as you like. I'm just really really curious about these Opanas (if they are them), and I'm tempted to try them out. Thank you!!

 

[flyhighk]

Hello and welcome to Bluelight !

I'm gonna move this post to Other Drugs so you can get your questions answered.

The best thing to do would be to give them to your dad, since they belong to him.

 

[beels]

throw them in the sea for the fish and go get some cocaine.

 

[jackie jones]

^I'm sure that was a great deal of help.

Oxymorphone is a very strong opioid. Use caution. Start with a fraction of a pill and see how it affects you.

 

[Bomb319]

Opanas are some of the strongest opiates you can get legally (other than fentanyl). If you haven't messed around with painkillers before, I would STRONGLY reccommend you don't start. Especially with a dad who has a severe painkiller addiction, you're playing with fire and will quite likely look back on this and wish you never started in the first place.

That said, this site is for harm reduction. If you insist on using them, make sure you start with as small an amount as possible and work your way up if you don't feel it after 30 min or so (if you snort it). I have no idea what strength you have there though, so make sure you find out and search for the reccommended beginner's dose for you.

 

[cuivre]

YES I completely and TOTALLY agree with Bomb, please stay away from the Opana if you can manage. I snorted 15mg after being on healthy doses of oxycodone daily for more than a year and I thought I was going to die. Forget about the possibility of addiction and dependence for one second-- these are undeniably issues too-- but you have to survive your first experience to even be able to worry about that. Whatever you do, there is no need to sniff them. This is a quick ticket to a horrible experience, almost no matter what you do I think. They're just too big. Oral oxymorphone MIGHT be OK from a harm reduction standpoint, but please please please don't screw around with the oxymorphone any other way and preferably not at all. The 40mg dose could be distributed unevenly across the pill, so even cutting off a little bit could leave you with way more than appropriate. Percocet are one thing but I would really think hard about fooling around with oxymorphone as an opioid-naive person. It's even worse you are a small female, from the perspective of your body's ability to handle it. It is not only that your dad is larger than you and a man, but the fact that he was assumedly on opioids for a good long while before moving to oxymorphone that allowed him to safely take it daily.

Seriously, as it is you might want to consider taking only half of one of those Percocet to start. They're 10mg of oxycodone each, and I felt pretty good with 5mg the very first time I did it and I'm a not-small man. You can always add, but never subtract.

I don't want to be a catastrophist or anything, but it seems to me as an opioid naive person who stumbled upon these drugs, you already have 3-6 doses of oxycodone. This is enough for you to have some fun if you want, but hopefully not enough to lead you down a path you can't get off of. Personally I'd still recommend against doing any of them period because it's amazing how fast that initial obsession can happen, and that's precisely what leads to addiction. It's even more problematic if your father struggled with opioid addiction. It really doesn't take long in the right (or wrong) person. This is all beyond the fact that these drugs weren't prescribed to you and there is such a thing as opioid allergies, so if you've literally never taken any then particular caution should be excised in the beginning. Semi-synthetics like these two tend to cause fewer issues than naturally-occurring opioids in terms of allergies, though.

But yeah, if you're going to do them anyway, I'd start with half a Percocet by mouth and go from there. You can safely take the other half after about an hour if it's not enough. For the fifth or sixth time, I really wouldn't mess with the oxymorphone at all if I were you. All other things being equal, about 5mg of oral oxymorphone is equivalent to 10mg of oral oxycodone, at least in terms of equianalgesia. That means-- at least as a fair starting point-- you'd have to cut the oxymorphone into eight pieces, each of which would theoretically be worth 1 Percocet. This might sound GREAT to have so much but again, there's no way to know if 1/8th of that pill has a few mgs of oxymorphone, or 15-20. It's meant to be taken whole so equal distribution isn't a huge problem, especially the way these older time-release matrices work (which a octagonal-shaped Opana ER should be). Trying to break the Opana into appropriately-sized pieces will be even harder if you find that 5mg of oxycodone is enough. It just doesn't seem worth the risk to me, but that is probably about the safest you can do it without a scale. It's still not that safe. That's the problem. And the amount of work and materials needed if you want to be *really* safe (scale, mortal and pestle, things to store powder in, possibly capsules) quickly make it seem not worth the trouble to me.

The highs aren't completely different. There are subtle differences, and some people find morphine derived drugs to be more sedating than codeine derived drugs (-morphones and -codones, respectively, basically). However, they're both still opioids and both still have the same basic effects. One is just stupidly potent while the other lies more in the middle. All opioids cause that "dreamy" high to some degree, I think... that's what opioids are. Morphine, the gold-standard opioid to which practically all others are compared, is named after the greek god of dreams. Certain opiates/oids give certain people some energy, but at the end of the day, full-agonist opioids without any other weird action are all sedatives/depressants.

Good luck and please keep asking questions if you need.

PS: It's been said, but I really hope your father doesn't still need these. That would be another discussion entirely.

 

[amudgarden]

YES I completely and TOTALLY agree with Bomb, please stay away from the Opana if you can manage. I snorted 15mg after being on healthy doses of oxycodone daily for more than a year and I thought I was going to die. Forget about the possibility of addiction and dependence for one second-- these are undeniably issues too-- but you have to survive your first experience to even be able to worry about that. Whatever you do, there is no need to sniff them. This is a quick ticket to a horrible experience, almost no matter what you do I think. They're just too big. Oral oxymorphone MIGHT be OK from a harm reduction standpoint, but please please please don't screw around with the oxymorphone any other way and preferably not at all. The 40mg dose could be distributed unevenly across the pill, so even cutting off a little bit could leave you with way more than appropriate. Percocet are one thing but I would really think hard about fooling around with oxymorphone as an opioid-naive person. It's even worse you are a small female, from the perspective of your body's ability to handle it. It is not only that your dad is larger than you and a man, but the fact that he was assumedly on opioids for a good long while before moving to oxymorphone that allowed him to safely take it daily.

Seriously, as it is you might want to consider taking only half of one of those Percocet to start. They're 10mg of oxycodone each, and I felt pretty good with 5mg the very first time I did it and I'm a not-small man. You can always add, but never subtract.

I don't want to be a catastrophist or anything, but it seems to me as an opioid naive person who stumbled upon these drugs, you already have 3-6 doses of oxycodone. This is enough for you to have some fun if you want, but hopefully not enough to lead you down a path you can't get off of. Personally I'd still recommend against doing any of them period because it's amazing how fast that initial obsession can happen, and that's precisely what leads to addiction. It's even more problematic if your father struggled with opioid addiction. It really doesn't take long in the right (or wrong) person. This is all beyond the fact that these drugs weren't prescribed to you and there is such a thing as opioid allergies, so if you've literally never taken any then particular caution should be excised in the beginning. Semi-synthetics like these two tend to cause fewer issues than naturally-occurring opioids in terms of allergies, though.

But yeah, if you're going to do them anyway, I'd start with half a Percocet by mouth and go from there. You can safely take the other half after about an hour if it's not enough. For the fifth or sixth time, I really wouldn't mess with the oxymorphone at all if I were you. All other things being equal, about 5mg of oral oxymorphone is equivalent to 10mg of oral oxycodone, at least in terms of equianalgesia. That means-- at least as a fair starting point-- you'd have to cut the oxymorphone into eight pieces, each of which would theoretically be worth 1 Percocet. This might sound GREAT to have so much but again, there's no way to know if 1/8th of that pill has a few mgs of oxymorphone, or 15-20. It's meant to be taken whole so equal distribution isn't a huge problem, especially the way these older time-release matrices work (which a octagonal-shaped Opana ER should be). Trying to break the Opana into appropriately-sized pieces will be even harder if you find that 5mg of oxycodone is enough. It just doesn't seem worth the risk to me, but that is probably about the safest you can do it without a scale. It's still not that safe. That's the problem. And the amount of work and materials needed if you want to be *really* safe (scale, mortal and pestle, things to store powder in, possibly capsules) quickly make it seem not worth the trouble to me.

The highs aren't completely different. There are subtle differences, and some people find morphine derived drugs to be more sedating than codeine derived drugs (-morphones and -codones, respectively, basically). However, they're both still opioids and both still have the same basic effects. One is just stupidly potent while the other lies more in the middle. All opioids cause that "dreamy" high to some degree, I think... that's what opioids are. Morphine, the gold-standard opioid to which practically all others are compared, is named after the greek god of dreams. Certain opiates/oids give certain people some energy, but at the end of the day, full-agonist opioids without any other weird action are all sedatives/depressants.

Good luck and please keep asking questions if you need.

PS: It's been said, but I really hope your father doesn't still need these. That would be another discussion entirely.

Great post. I would personally stay away from Opanas or oxymorphone if you don't have prior experience with opioids. I'd start with one Perc 10 (325mg of Tylenol and 10mg of oxycodone), and maybe add one if after an hour you don't feel much of anything. As cuivre said, it's very easy to add, but impossible to subtract.

 

[guidog]

You are considering experimenting with pills that very likely lead you to go find more. Tread lightly. They can be very habit forming.

 

[tellmystory]

It's so annoying when people post on here just to say : "You shouldn't do this... you shouldn't do that..."
now she doesn't know how to take these apparently strong drugs, because all you guys could say is DONT
now shes going to do them without any kind of information to help her out


RANT OVER

my advice to you, is crush the pill and make a tiny line, like a small coke "bump" (about 1/8 of the pill).. and see how it goes from there... if you don't get high, just keep doing very tiny lines... if you can do it with someone around, that would be best

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Don't take the opana pills as you have zero tolerance to opiates, and many people OD and die from taking too high of a dose.

If you really do want to take opiates take 5mg of oxycodone or a single Percocet, and see how it effects you but realize that opiates can be highly addictive to lots of people. Just take the pill orally and don't sniff it, IV it, or plug it.

 

[wezface]

It's so annoying when people post on here just to say : "You shouldn't do this... you shouldn't do that..."
now she doesn't know how to take these apparently strong drugs, because all you guys could say is DONT
now shes going to do them without any kind of information to help her out


RANT OVER

my advice to you, is crush the pill and make a tiny line, like a small coke "bump" (about 1/8 of the pill).. and see how it goes from there... if you don't get high, just keep doing very tiny lines... if you can do it with someone around, that would be best

Wow you gave no timeline for onset and the ROA you suggested for a first time user for such a strong drug is unnecessary and ridiculous. This is a really good way to OD

 

[Methacodone]

MDMA is def. not a light drug user, lol. MDMA is actually one of the worlds most powerful drugs, but in your case, you're opiate naïve, DON'T fuck with the opana. You can easily od ESP. that high of a dose of 40mg.

I used to LOVE those Watson 10mg percs, if you're new to opiates, all you need is half of that pill, 5mg of oxycodone should def. make you feel good if you've never tried opiates. Oxycodone Is also a very strong pain killer. So becareful, its very easy to OD on opiates if you don't know what you're doing. DEF. leave out the opana, that 40mg pill WILL kill you.

5mg of opana for a opiate naïve person can get him sick like a dog, now, if that person takes 40mg, they're def. going 6 feet under if you don't get medical help asap.

So my suggestions, after 8+ years of opiate experience, are-

#1 Don't go over 5mg of Oxycodone on your first dose, you can always take more, but not less.

#2 PUT THE OPANA DOWN. That's the strongest of strong opiates.

Here are the TOP 5 most potent opiates, not including street drugs (Heroin)

#1 Fentanyl
#2 Chronic Methadone
#3 Opana
#4 Methadone
#5 IV Dilaudid (if not IV, Oxycodone is in 5th place, oral dillys have horrible oral BA, Oxycodone oral is much more potent than oral dilaudid)

Now you see how strong those opiates are, so be very careful, and listen to people with experiences. I gave you the best possible advice to be SAFE.

Good luck

 

[tellmystory]

Wow you gave no timeline for onset and the ROA you suggested for a first time user for such a strong drug is unnecessary and ridiculous. This is a really good way to OD

I shot up fentanyl the first time I did opiates, any ROA is acceptable if you know what dose you should take (you have to be very careful, of course)... I have a lot of experience with opioids AND I'm very lightweight, my advice was purely anecdotal and not based on scientific fact. I can only help with my own experience. I have never overdosed by the way, which is very unusual for an IV user. Of course, it was implied in my post that you should WAIT until you feel the full effects after snorting. You are right I should have mentioned explicitly that waiting a good 15-30 minutes is essential to see how the drug will impact you. I don't think snorting is ridiculous at all, I know a lot of people who are beginner opiate user and went straight to snorting... we didn't die, lol.

 

[Fire&Water]

It's so annoying when people post on here just to say : "You shouldn't do this... you shouldn't do that..."
now she doesn't know how to take these apparently strong drugs, because all you guys could say is DONT
now shes going to do them without any kind of information to help her out


RANT OVER

my advice to you, is crush the pill and make a tiny line, like a small coke "bump" (about 1/8 of the pill).. and see how it goes from there... if you don't get high, just keep doing very tiny lines... if you can do it with someone around, that would be best

Yer a putz.

 

[Fire&Water]

So, I'm definitely a recreational drug user. I don't really go near opiates. A normal drug for me to use is cannabis, cocaine, and MDMA. Nothing too heavy, you know? So I'm definitely a drug lightweight. Well, a lightweight all around.

I've been cleaning my house all day today, and my dad was previously a very,very heavy painkiller user. Oxycodone, percs, vicodins, etc. etc. I stumbled across a pill container, and decided to check it out. I discovered 3 round white pills that say "Watson 932" which I found out was oxycodone, and these little yellow octagon-shaped pills with the number 40 on them, and nothing on the other side. After some perusing on here, I gathered that it was oxymorphone. From what I've read thus far, I see that the highs are completely different. I'm really curious to try out both of them...but a lot of avid painkiller users couldn't warn the reader enough to tread lightly with the Opanas (which is what I'm thinking they are) If they are really Opanas, how much should I sniff? If it helps, I'm short, 115 lbs, and female. I know for a fact that makes a difference in tolerance Dad's obviously twice my weight and a foot higher, so he was probably able to handle these pills.

What I'm asking here is, [moderator edit] should I take them? If so, how much should I take? Any tips/pointers? I'm not really a fan of a downer/dreamy high...much more like an elevated, euphoric high. I read that the Opanas give the dreamy high. Please, share your experiences in as much detail as you like. I'm just really really curious about these Opanas (if they are them), and I'm tempted to try them out. Thank you!!

One day probably soon, you'll wish you had saved em' for a little painkiller

 

[SickWithRA]

5mg oxycodone is the maximum...you'll end up nauseous and vomiting if you take the whole thing without tolerance. Forget the other. I'm prescribed oxycodone 10mg, 4X a day...took 2 years for me to be able to handle this much for pain without feeling ill. Be careful because the body develops a tolerance and you may end up craving this medication...leading you down a nasty road. Cocaine and MDMA are not light drugs...just different from opiates.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Trade them to someone for some drugs you actually like.

The Opana especially is not worth messing around with. Great for people that love opiates but extremely potent and could easily have breathing problems with even a small dose.

 

[DaleEarnhardt]

I'm thinking you got the new time release ones, or maybe an old one i don't know about. i used to get pink 10mg IR ones and they were awesome and worth every penny. not suggesting you take them, just being honest, it was IMO the best opiate ive tied. do not under-estimate what even 2-3mg can do if you snort it, and have never really taken opiates. your probably gona puke, start super small, build your way up, i would guess that pill could get you high like 6 times if you can rail it, make sure you look that up, orally i think the drug sucks. its a heavy starting point and a very fiendish drug, so just, as other have already said, tread carefully.