Heroin Heroin vs Oxycodone

[Smoky]

All depends on the quality of H. It's difficult to compare… I overdosed when I used the 30 mg, plus heroin 'and' had subs floating in my system. Maybe enough time had gone by since the last sub use from the morning. I would wait and try one if you are going to do it, see how it feels before doing another 30 mg.

 

[purplehaze147]

Does anyone know what how many 10/325 oxycodones compare to a $20 bag of heroin? I am trying to replace the heroin with oxycodone instead and would like to know if anyone has any idea how many pills equal or compare to a bag of heroin. Any and all responses are appreciated!

You will just be disappointed and be spending a lot more money. Heroin & morphine are better than oxycodone since they give you a rush. With 10/325 percocets you'd have to ingest too much acetaminophen & you can't shoot or snort those. Morphine would be a better substitute, I.V. & snorted it's more powerful than oxycodone & usually goes for less. Also hydromorphone & oxymorphone would be good also. Why are you trying to substitute heroin? Heroins the cheapest & most available opioid around (usually) with the best rush.

 

[Erikmen]

You will just be disappointed and be spending a lot more money. Heroin & morphine are better than oxycodone since they give you a rush. With 10/325 percocets you'd have to ingest too much acetaminophen & you can't shoot or snort those. Morphine would be a better substitute, I.V. & snorted it's more powerful than oxycodone & usually goes for less. Also hydromorphone & oxymorphone would be good also. Why are you trying to substitute heroin? Heroins the cheapest & most available opioid around (usually) with the best rush.

Because it could kill you, right? It´s a 2 minute rush anyway until it´s turns to morphine as I have learnt today..

 

[The Doc.]

Oxycodone gives me more of a rush than morphine I don't know what purple haze is talking about. Oxycodone can be snorted or IVed too snorted morphine sucks with a bioavailability of 25% snorted and 30% oral whereas oxy has a BA of around 60 percent (snorted)and probably 50 percent if it has a bunch of acetaminophen in it. But this can be brought up by doing small lines every couple mins instead of snorting the whole pill at once. But why snort oxy when the bioavailability is usually higher when taking orally sometimes as high as 80%.

 

[Thomas29]

Best Comparison I Heard is Oxycodone is Like Heroin While On Caffeine Basically And Essentially In A Nutshell.

 

[Soulgasm]

I'd say diacetylmorphine is like a deep indica of opiates whereas oxycodone is a more stimulating sativa. Fentanyl is the dabs haha. Anyhow, good dope has always been pretty equipotent (or maybe slightttly lesser) to oxycodone for me. Meaning, 0.1g heroin = 100mg oxy. But tread carefully and start low; there's no way anyone on ze internet could know the potency of your drugs and this post is all mindless speculation ha.

 

[rave_itsrealfun!!!]

I like how oxycodone can be taken orally, and it's not really wasting it because of the high bioavailability. I've never once sniffed it, this makes it less prone to abuse. When it hits the reward system faster then I believe that makes it more susceptible to addiction. I've never taken heroin orally like I do with oxy, because I feel it would be a waste due to loss of potency.

I don't like how I could never be sure of the purity of heroin - anything could be in it, it could have been transported up someone's butt, etc. whereas my oxycodone comes from a pharmaceutical quality lab. Since I was sniffing raw powder, that made it more prone to abuse. And "heroin" is a term that usually describes a concoction of chemicals that is purchased off the street, with an unknown concentration of diamorphine in it. I generally don't vibe with this, but I've done enough of the stuff to know when I come across some good china white... or do I? How could I ever be certain where it comes from and what exactly is it's composition. This is my problem with it so it's generally a rare treat.

The experiences themselves are similar, but I find that heroin is a little more euphoric and longer lasting. Oxycodone leaves me energized, focussed, creative, motivated, and generally feeling wonderful and productive for the duration of 3 hours or so. I love it... it's my favourite drug, and it works reasonably well for my chronic pain. Regardless of my chronic pain, oxycodone consistently provides me with what I see as the perfect 'high.' I mean, it's very subtle and I would get more fucked up from a joint. But once I came to appreciate the subtlety of the opioid high, I became a connoisseur of it. Heroin is kind of hit or miss, it can be wonderful but it's hard to get the dose right, and get stuff that is actually good quality. I wish there was pharmaceutical diamorphine available, would be really interesting to try. For me it's just way too difficult to get the dose in the medicinal range.

This is just my own personal experience. Everyone's will be different. It depends on what reason you're using, your doses, ROA, frequency of use, quality of drugs, personal chemistry etc. I think it's pretty clear that I'm not an injection drug user, or I would be looking far and wide for that nice, fluffy china white.

I've had really shitty quality oxycodone in the past as well, must have been expired or something. There are fentanyl counterfeits out there too to watch out for.

But 5mg, or even 2.5mg of the good oxy will have me in what I consider to be the perfect state of mind. Oxycodone is something I would take before any major life test: an interview, exam, public speaking, etc. as a performance enhancer. But I take it every day because otherwise I am bedridden in excruciating pain in my spine - I try to limit the amount I take per day to 5mg, because I don't want to build up a tolerance to such a wonderful drug. So far it's working out well, I have a mild psychological addiction to it which I am perfectly fine with having so long as it doesn't escalate.

 

[Smoky]

oxy use to effect me like cocaine sometimes, lol. not heroin. i switched to heroin cos oxy kept me up. not a good idea, but my best thinking then
i used to clean the whole house on those little blue a 215's. 30 mgs. and exercise at midnight.

 

[Erikmen]

I like how oxycodone can be taken orally, and it's not really wasting it because of the high bioavailability. I've never once sniffed it, this makes it less prone to abuse. When it hits the reward system faster then I believe that makes it more susceptible to addiction. I've never taken heroin orally like I do with oxy, because I feel it would be a waste due to loss of potency.

I don't like how I could never be sure of the purity of heroin - anything could be in it, it could have been transported up someone's butt, etc. whereas my oxycodone comes from a pharmaceutical quality lab. Since I was sniffing raw powder, that made it more prone to abuse. And "heroin" is a term that usually describes a concoction of chemicals that is purchased off the street, with an unknown concentration of diamorphine in it. I generally don't vibe with this, but I've done enough of the stuff to know when I come across some good china white... or do I? How could I ever be certain where it comes from and what exactly is it's composition. This is my problem with it so it's generally a rare treat.

The experiences themselves are similar, but I find that heroin is a little more euphoric and longer lasting. Oxycodone leaves me energized, focussed, creative, motivated, and generally feeling wonderful and productive for the duration of 3 hours or so. I love it... it's my favourite drug, and it works reasonably well for my chronic pain. Regardless of my chronic pain, oxycodone consistently provides me with what I see as the perfect 'high.' I mean, it's very subtle and I would get more fucked up from a joint. But once I came to appreciate the subtlety of the opioid high, I became a connoisseur of it. Heroin is kind of hit or miss, it can be wonderful but it's hard to get the dose right, and get stuff that is actually good quality. I wish there was pharmaceutical diamorphine available, would be really interesting to try. For me it's just way too difficult to get the dose in the medicinal range.

This is just my own personal experience. Everyone's will be different. It depends on what reason you're using, your doses, ROA, frequency of use, quality of drugs, personal chemistry etc. I think it's pretty clear that I'm not an injection drug user, or I would be looking far and wide for that nice, fluffy china white.

I've had really shitty quality oxycodone in the past as well, must have been expired or something. There are fentanyl counterfeits out there too to watch out for.

But 5mg, or even 2.5mg of the good oxy will have me in what I consider to be the perfect state of mind. Oxycodone is something I would take before any major life test: an interview, exam, public speaking, etc. as a performance enhancer. But I take it every day because otherwise I am bedridden in excruciating pain in my spine - I try to limit the amount I take per day to 5mg, because I don't want to build up a tolerance to such a wonderful drug. So far it's working out well, I have a mild psychological addiction to it which I am perfectly fine with having so long as it doesn't escalate.

For me it never really worked for with 5 mg much less with 2.5 mg, but I can relate to what you are saying.
You get your mind and body connected. And if you keep you do it right it can really work for you in that way.
But although it relaxes me I noticed that it´s very short acting and I do miss the rush.
I also consider to be quite stable when it comes to state of mind, as long as you keep it running.
It´s very good that you keep you addiction on a mild level. Although you need to be very careful as it changes very fast.

 

[purplehaze147]

^Heroin is an inactive drug, it's not even active for 2-3min. It breaks doem into the actives 6-MAM & morphine. A blind study was done with opioid experience people & all of them strongly prefered morphine & heroin over all other opioids including oxy & couldn't tell the difference between morphine & heroin.

Oxycodone gives me more of a rush than morphine I don't know what purple haze is talking about. Oxycodone can be snorted or IVed too snorted morphine sucks with a bioavailability of 25% snorted and 30% oral whereas oxy has a BA of around 60 percent (snorted)and probably 50 percent if it has a bunch of acetaminophen in it. But this can be brought up by doing small lines every couple mins instead of snorting the whole pill at once. But why snort oxy when the bioavailability is usually higher when taking orally sometimes as high as 80%.

I dont know what otur talking about. The BA for morphine is higher snorted than taking it orally. No way oxy gives more rush than morphine, I've I.V.'d both & have lots of experience with both. I started useing morphine & oxycodone when i was TWELVE YEARS OLD! I'm sure people will back it up that compared to heroin/morphine oxycodone has no rush.

 

[rhun]

Yeah, I don't think oxycodone has any kind of rush. I think people are confusing a rush with the faster onset, you're just feeling it hit all at once. Before I got hooked on the needle and fell in love with speedballs, I did prefer oxycodone more though. It was a more productive opioid for work.

 

[sekio]

One problem a lot of people have is that there is no medical definition of a "rush". So one person may be expecting the prickly pins-and-needles histamine/flushing response, someone might be looking instead for onset of relaxation or analgesia, etc.

Realistically speaking both oxycodone and morphine/heroin are strong opioids and if you IV them you will get some semblance of a faster onset. However oxycodone was "designed" to have a very high oral bioavailibility and talking it by that route will make the effects longer lasting by a small margin (takes slightly longer for the drug to diffuse from stomach/intestines to blood, sort of acts like a biological time release). Even going from oral oxycodone to plugged oxycodone, the difference in onset time is noticeable.

Set and setting also plays a role, as it does with all drugs. If you are fully expecting your dope to be shit then you'll have less of a good time than if you're convinced it's really high quality. Same as doing it somewhere you're comfortable and relaxed vs doing it somewhere trying to keep it on the down low, or whatever.

 

[rhun]

^ I agree that there's no medical definition and it's even difficult to put into words what a rush feels like. But once you've experienced a true one it's unmistakable.