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Heroin Heroin vs Oxycodone

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Does anyone know what how many 10/325 oxycodones compare to a $20 bag of heroin? I am trying to replace the heroin with oxycodone instead and would like to know if anyone has any idea how many pills equal or compare to a bag of heroin. Any and all responses are appreciated!
 
It depends on how pure the heroin in your area is. A "$20 bag" is not really a measurement of dosage 'cause the purity can vary widely.

Oxycodone is about 1.5x morphine, heroin is about 2.2x. So assuming heroin of 100% purity you'd need about 30% more mg of oxycodone.
 
I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond so quickly. I understand saying $20 bag doesn't really give much information but I have read that there is really no definition of weight of purity in bags of heroin. I usually do 1.5-2 bags a day but would like to try replacing the bags with the 10/325 percoset pills. I am not good at math AT ALL!!! Can you please give me somewhat of an idea of how many pills would equal 1.5-2 bags of heroin per day? I'd really appreciate any information you can provide me with and I understand it would be a "guesstimate" Thanks!
 
I'm not sure anyone could give you an accurate idea of what to take, there's so many variables! Start at a medium or low dose and work your way till you hit what you're looking for. Oh and CWE
 
Well lets see if you do say 2 bags a day, that's at most 200mg of CUT heroin so that means unlike the oxy which ill be 100% pure it will not be pure, that makes it hard to titrate a dose. Lets just say they're both 100% pure…… oxycodone is about 3x as potent as morphine and heroin ranges from 2-3x as potent so (well go with the lower limit because we don't know how pure your heroin is, but it's not 100% pure)…… At 200mg of heroin a day that translates to *I think* about 133.333 mg of oxycodone so…… 13.3 pills per day @ 10mg per pill. Also the high from oxycodone isn't as euphoric as heroin so this kind of comparison is a little frivolous.
 
Well I am not on the east coast, but I have had stamp bags about 5 or 6 times and they were never .1. usually a bag was .05 - .08 at most(each time, I got 2-10 bags, total about 40 bags). Assuming you have an average connect say 35% pure of 150mg dope or 50MG diamorphine. So I think the total is more like 5-6 pills. A lot depends how you took the heroin. was it 2 bags a day at once or two times? that is a very small habit, I don't know how you could maintain it daily and keep from feeling sick unless you did 1 bag every 10-12 hours, but even then, its tough. Thats why tolerance goes up quick. Also Are you looking to get high still or just keep from being sick? 'If you can get it I suggest switching to Methadone instead if you want to feel ok. Not long term, but ween off in a week or so. from 1-2 bags a day, I would say you need 10-15mg methadone(if you can get the 10mg pills, 1 or 1.5 every day). even maybe start on 15mg and go to 10mg day 2, 5mg day 3, 5mg day 4, 2-3 mg day 5, 2-3 day 6, then stop. methadone has a long half life so you wont feel sick as much going down as you do with dope. in fact you probably wont feel it till day 4 or 5. I have a heavy addiction where I start my detox on methadone at 150MG the first day(100mg is possible, but I feel shitty then and increase relapse chance). I can go from 150mg to 30mg in 5-7 days, but going below 30 to 0 takes me twice as long
 
As other have said there are too much variables. In your area 1 bag may be 100-200mg, while in mine 20 € of heroin are 800mg usually (albeit much worse quality).
So I'd say start with a medium dose and work your way up from there.
I think you'll need atleast like 60mg to feel it even slightly but don't quote me on that.
 
I was on one to two bags of dope per day for a while, I could take 40-60mg of oxy and feel nice. if you looking to get nodded out, maybe closer to 80-100. but I'll start on the low end for harm-reduction purposes.
 
Start small with a couple pills and if that doesn't work then add another pill. This is the best way to go about things since its impossible for us to tell how pure your heroin was.
 
The problem with Oxys are they extremely short acting period.
Heroin was always stronger from my perspective. It would last more, it would have a great kick. Etc.
Now when you are on methadone, neither h. nor oxy seems to work. Not even 600 mg.
 
I found heroin to be the shortest acting drug. But mabye that's because I ate my oxy and IVed/smoked my heroin which has a shorter duration. But heroin ( diacetylmorphine) actually has a half life of only 2-3 minutes then the heroin converts to morphine in the brain which has a half life of 2-3 hours about the same as oxycodone.
 
Yes I guess you have that rush but didn´t really know it was converted to morphine, which I always believed to be lighter. Interesting.
 
Yea when drug tested for heroin they actually look for morphine not heroin itself.

Heroin has a better rush than morphine though and is more potent meaning mgs for mgs less heroin is needed than morphine to get the same effects. The rush is believed to be from the conversion from heroin to morphine happening in the brain.
 
The Doc. said:
Yea when drug tested for heroin they actually look for morphine not heroin itself.

Heroin has a better rush than morphine though and is more potent meaning mgs for mgs less heroin is needed than morphine to get the same effects. The rush is believed to be from the conversion from heroin to morphine happening in the brain.
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Indeed this is quite interesting. Do you know if a similar process occurs with methadone?
Since methadone is related to morphine, would you think the drug test would come out in morphine as well?
Or maybe methadone has a completely different composition..
 
No it does not convert to morphine like heroin does.
Methadone is metabolized to a variety of metabolites, the primary metabolite is 2-ethylidene-1,5-dimethyl1-3,3-diphenylpyrrolidine. Nothing you really care about or have ever heard of. Methadone has a slow metabolism and very high fat solubility, making it longer lasting than morphine-based drugs. Methadone has a half-life of 15 to 60 hours with a mean of around 22. However, methadone's metabolism varies greatly between individuals due to variables such as body weight, history of use, metabolic dysfunctions and renal system dysfunction.
 
Erikmen said:
Indeed this is quite interesting. Do you know if a similar process occurs with methadone?
Since methadone is related to morphine, would you think the drug test would come out in morphine as well?
Or maybe methadone has a completely different composition..
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Heroin is a morphine derivative and converts to morphine in the body. Methadone is also an opioid (like heroin) and works on the same receptors as morphine but doesn't convert into morphine and wouldn't test as such either.
 
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Doc., You really know how these things work. I´m impressed.
I had always known that methadone had a slow metabolism but not to that extent.
Maybe my doctor should really be more informative so I know more about what I´m using.
Thanks!!
 
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