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Heroin the *in* thing

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Bluelighter
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This is weird. Herion has always been known as "the worst drug in the world", nobody would ever dream of touching it. Now it seems everyone is into moriphine pills,codiene and various opiate pain killers. Think heroin is coming back? I'm sure phreex will be thrilled to see the e-tards switch over to smack...hahaha.
 
yeah, and the scene will get even better=)
ehh.. as much as i hate e i liked being dark and angry in rooms full of people on it.
heroin, now?
anyone ever notice how drugs are tied to the economy? like the heroin thing during the early 90s recession.
ehh... i dont see how people can change what they like so easily.
 
"man i get enough heroin in all the pills i eat, i dont need more!" -Stupid fucking ravers
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Such isolation is sometimes bitter, but I do not regret being cut off from the understanding and sympathy of other men.
I lose something by it,to be sure, but I am compensated for it in being rendered independent of the customs,
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|- But then when they want to roll so badly and everyone is dry, they score some smack, thinking it's the one that gets them high when they take E. That is when they realise the truth.......What truth?......There is no E.
 
Actually I am VERY happy to see heroin making the comeback, but sadly I am TOTALLY agsint the explosion in the abuse of painkillers by idiot teenagers - their actions could cause these drugs to be taken from those who *REALLY* need them...
Like I have said, heroin is easily one of, if not *THE* most dynamic drugs out there! It does less damage to the user then marijuana, and when used in a responsible manor it can truely serve as a *TOOL* ..
I think it starting to gain acceptance, which is wonderfull! I am in central Florida and we *NEVER* had wraps, it was only weights.. now we have a number of people moving packets... the purity has greatly improved which enables new users to snort rather then take risks with injection.. we are seeing less cut as well... price has dropped too..
More then anything, we are seeing a HUGE explosion in the number of *responsible* users - look at bluelight.. we are seeing a LOT of posts from people who have added heroin to their list of 'acceptable' drugs .. I started using about 4 years ago, maybe less, and heroin was something that didn't exist unless you were 'in those circles' ..
I think this trend will continue, at least I certinly hope so... of course the general attitude will still be that heroin is an evil drug, but more and more people just smile and nod when they hear that, because they know the truth...
I am also getting a LOT of mail from people who want to know how to inject IV - we are definitly making progress!
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
 
How can one say heroin does less damage to the body than ganja? Sure pot smoke has some tar content, but other than that WTF? With pot there is no physical dependence or no possibilty of killing yourself. Cant think of anything worse for your health than death. Curious as to the age of someone who would say something like this. 15?16? It seems a bit sketchy to promote such a dirty drug like heroin with bogus facts like that. Sure you'll prolly say "Well, hey, I'm phreex the heroin king! I wont get addicted or od!" Sure, maybe YOU wont, but what about all the other kids you are promoting this drug to? Saying shit like "it does less damage to the user than pot." Thats fuckin retarded dude. Wake up.
peas
Bombay M.D.
 
Look, the greenlighter is making noise!
This is an old argument, and I am insisting that you guys keep the arguments FRESH!
Now, did I say that heroin came with less risk then marijuana? No, I said that it does LESS DAMAGE TO YOUR BODY - and this is TRUE!
Yes, there are plenty of risks asscoiated with heroin use, but hey, you can negate those risks if you pay attention and don't do stupid shit... oh yeah, marijuana is addictive too - of course I would never say it has the addictive properties to the same degree tjhat heroin does, but IT IS ADDICTIVE!
But addiction is a factor of the mind my friend.. I have had my share of addictions and in EACH INSTANCE I can put 100% of the blame on MYSELF and NOT THE DRUG!
"Such a dirty drug" - see, there is my key to just smile and nod at you as I say "ooookay" ..
And please don't put "M.D." after your name unless you're a MEDICAL DOCTOR ..
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
 
I really never thought I'd be taking Phreex's side on an issue like this (or any at all, he he) but he does have a point. I used to be a hardcore pothead. I was really affecting my life and I couldn't stop, so regardless of whether or not its physicly addictive, I was addicted to marijuana.
As for heroin, not my thing, I know myself and I know I would use it irresponsibly if I started so I'm staying away from it. I recently started using the evil opiates (just codeine actually) and I havn't experianced any cravings stronger than those I used to get for pot. I'm not saying heroin is safer for tenth grade kids than herb, but just keep an open mind, its all about whats popular at the time. In ten years people might start realizing the amount of damage MDMA causes and label it the "dirty drug".
 
*snicker*
the only false information being given here is with you trying to rearrange his words into something completely different. heroin wouldn't be such an evil looked upon drug if it didnt require incredibly responsible usage.
pay attention class!
 
we shouldn't be saying that any of this shit is safe. I do not believe in the promotion of any drugs. IF we advertise drugs and more people use them , then things will start to go wrong.
Its the nature of humans. IT WILL BE ABUSED. That is why I give SOME credit to the law.
EXAMPLE
IF your in school and the teacher says that students who get thier work done can play computer games , what will happen????
Every time the teacher is not looking those games are being played.
One person can handle something , but people are animals.
lets tie in this......THE LAW
Caught with pot -- "Ouch my wrist hurts"
Caught with Heroin -- Rehab - Probation(drug tests) Jail time after second offense.
I hope this makes some sense....
 
EXAMPLE
IF your in school and the teacher says that students who get thier work done can play computer games , what will happen????
Every time the teacher is not looking those games are being played.
that makes sense to a 16-17 year old
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"IF your in school and the teacher says that students who get thier work done can play computer games , what will happen???? Every time the teacher is not looking those games are being played."
Correct, no one is going to disagreee that the *majority* of students would be playing their games or looking for something warm to stick their cock into, but there will still be the percent who would do their work, then go home and play said game or stick said cocks in said warm places - the latter will proceed to college, still able to maintain a good balance - schoolwork and nice warm places... yes, you CAN have both but this takes some strength on YOUR PART!
As for the laws - fuck it, it's all illegal, if you get caught with either it makes for a bad day... wear your track marks like badges of honor, the purple hearts of our own war! Besides, weed is easier to detect in every regard!
Do I advocate heroin use? Actually I have to say "no, I don't" - but if you asked me about my feelings on it I would say it's like any other drug in the regard that it can be *used* or *abused* - I can say it differs from other drugs in the sense that "to much" can be fatal, yet I can also say that "the right dose" would have ne negetive effects on the user, unlike some 'other drugs' ..
Think of marijuana like a 1984 Toyota Corola, and think of heroin as a 2001 GSX - they both get you from point A to point B, except if you're driving the Toyota you would have to keep stopping at 7-11's to get munchie foods, and it wont have a good system, it will have a crap ass AM radio that only picks up Greatfull Dead songs and christian talk radio.... it will emit toxic gassses and eventually those who ride in the Toyota will start to slow down a little... lets say yer driving and the sun reflects off the peurto rican flag-cd you have hanging from the rear view mirror (those are standard issue for all 1984 Toyota Corola's).. this distracts you and you crash into a tree, since it's engine is weak like baby girl, none of its riders would be hurt, they would just say "dude, that like, sucked" ... but the GSX, well thats a fine automobile.. you could fly around in it with your supermodel girlfriend as you blast hard trance in yer mack system, those who ride in it would wear expensive suits ... sadly if you crashed the GSX you would probably die... the moral of the story? Don't drive the Toyota Corola, drive the GSX, but remember that you have more power at your disposal, and one wrong turn could wreck you!
This message brought to you by the letter 'H' and the number '3' ..
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
 
Wear your track marks like a badge of honor?!
Not only is that stupidly superficial, but's visually sickening. Personally, if anything can give me the urge to regurge, it's physical mutilation and needless to say SOMATIC HARM of that sort..
heroin making a comback--
if it's in the ecomonical, political sense--i suppose that it's *marginally*sociologically progressive, for the advanced learning and acceptance of the drug, only benifiting the mature community of users...but god forbid that flow into the mainstream of pop culture.
The Heroin-Chic imagery high fashion designers bombarded us (the look died out in early 97, if memory serves) with was harmfully influential and vainglorious as fuck.
The day everyone goes back to shooting up in VAIN, the day i know that society has truly fallen off the brink of insanity and into the abyss.
Anything popular in the underground that's bumped to the main market of society is immediately exploited and glamorized (from shock to chic), so i know this would happen with heroin again.
heroin's addictive potential--
phreex, you always *allude* that heroin is addictive by mentioing it with irrelevant- by -comparison drugs, and then accompany that statement that anything that is anything can be addictive.
So, with that said and cleared, is H truly, truly addictive? Of course not. And you would know--you've been doing it for years.
ha...
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this territory is dangerous..*~
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Are you high? I mean, are you like tripping or something?
Is heroin addictive? YES! Of course it's addictive, when did PhreeX EVER SAY that heroin is *NOT* addictive?
Can you die from heroin? YES! Of course you can die from heroin, when did PhreeX EVER SAY that heroin can *NOT* kill you?
But can BOTH the above be prevented by using common sense? YES!
The entire "heroin look" thing went out awhile ago, and I don't think it's becomming a pop-culture-all-your-base icon, I think that people are starting to realize that much of what they have been told is wrong...
I wont correct your mistaking my sarcasam about track marks because the ASCII medium does not lend itself well to that type thing.. but I will kindly as that you shorten your sig..
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
 
PhreeX-- this is defenantly the view I hold, as I have abandoned every drug that I have tried (and used, abused...) (most varieties), and am now left with a bottle of opiates. Couple of questions, however: I used to do haroin (snorting only) and although I LOVED it, I certainly can't say that its a party or a social drug... I like people now, meeting new onse and being social, and think H would hardly fit. This is probably the reason I still find myself on coke every now and then (something that I do not want to keep doing). So, how do you remain social on H, or do you? 2: can you give some references to information on long term opiate effects, and what do you know about it? Also it would be intersesting to hear your parameters of usage (dosage, timing, etc...)
thx
 
I think that heroin is also the most over-rated drug avaiable.. I think that most anyone who does it would say "oh, thats it?" .. people think of "10,000 warm, fuzzy orgasams" when its really just a nice, mellow high...
Many people don't even care for it because it will just kinda mash them into the couch for a few hours - it gives me energy, and I am VERY social when under the influance..
As for refrences to its safety - um, it has a track record of several thousand years.. we know that the action of binding opioid receptors Delta, Kappa, and Mu is harmless, causes NO longterm problems in the brain.. I could dig up something that say it, but it's no differn't then, say, oxycodone in terms of its effects...
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PAK CHOOIE UNF! Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning, we are here to protect you..
 
gee phreex...u think you are the only one who uses sarcasm around here?
'twas nice to see you worked up and directly state that H is addictive.
and no--people aren't realizing the wrongdoing of heroin portrayal. I work in the business, it is an established aesthetic that isn't disapproved of. It's a fad. Just because it has been forgotten doesn't mean it's been demeaned--or abolished. As the quote goes...Fashion and history are the only things that repeat themselves, so expect a revival.
Presently the healthy look is in--the one coincidentally reminiscent of when ethnic model Gia Carangi--a heroin junkie herself--was dominating the style of the nonce.
i've been pondering possibilities for sig expansion in the future, btw, since i do dig that billboard effect. If you have problems with it~kiss my ASCII, hun! ;o)
 
phreeX got lots of good things to say. yay for him. keep up the good work.
//bTs
 
when i was a greenlighter i used to think what a fuckin idiot phreex was. but now im much more on his side and he has changed my whole opinion on opiates and lowered "E isnt bad at all" shit thinking
listen to him and im almost certain that you would change
 
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