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maxalfie said:
Thanks Kkat,I deleted my post as felt I had probably left myself open to ridicule.
I think it would probably take me a few 'dates' with the lady before I would feel ready for sex. Its been nearly 10 years for me since my wife died & i last had sex so I would have to really get on with the woman and like her or I don't think I could progress any further.
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Thats a long time to go without sex or, more importantly that level of intimacy and closeness you feel when your with someone intimately Maxalfie... sorry to hear about ur wife...how old are u if u dont mind me asking? I always thought u were quite young from ur posts? Did u get into gear to cope after losing ur wife or were u both using when u were together? There's someone out there for everyone and it'd be daunting going 'out on the pull' to find a partner nowadays. I met my mrs of 3 years online and I genuinely think its a wicked way of meeting smeone, you can lay urself bear through messages etc before meeting and so dont open urself up for ridicule, reckon its the way forward for lonely hearts.
 
@ Blondin I'm still waiting to hear your Sermon for the day fella? Preach Goddamnit PREACH! And I want to hear the rest of ur ten commandments, Thy Will Inject, Thy Will Not Snort, ;)
 
Sorry for all these posts everyone, Ive been to the footie (YES LEEDS!!), doubled up on me methadone and had a fuckin skinfull off stella, but a question Ive wanted answering for a while, Blondin maybe u can help me wiv this one? :)

Methadone and drinking; I think theres evidence to say that as an MMT patient, you should avoid excessive alcohol. Is drinking on methadone particularly damaging to the liver? When I was on the gear full time b4 the meth I lost all apetite for booze and got to the point where, after about 2 years without a drop, I was scared of a pint! (having been on the verge of bein an alci before in life, happily drinking 10 pints a night 3 days a week and at the stage of 1 pint would get me pissed afeter work cos I was 'topping up'). So how come having been on meth for 4 years, but only recently having more or less stopped using gear on top, have i suddenly developed an urge to drink? I'm now drinking a steady 4 cans of stella a night, and wen I get the opportunity really letting fly and drinking 8 pints in a day/night if not more. Ive read a lt of really serious stuff about mixing alcohol with methadone. I've read that alcohol interferes with how methadone works-does it? Does it mean u go into wd qiicker after a heavy night drinking? is there a genuine risk I could die in my sleep after a night of really heavy boozin? (Have been on 80ml daily for years). Gear seems to eliminate the desire to drink but meth dont, anyone else get that? Feel free anyone to chip in wiv there experiences or knoiwledge, sorry for long post and soz for posting 4 posts like I said Im pissed n fuckin gaggin for a smoke! hence why I doubled up on me green :!
 
@papavorsom

I'd also be interested in some of these answers , I drink way to much and on top of my jollop, it's been goin on years. im honestly scared to get my liver checked out , iv blown out of 2 appointments , but now my mrs has found out , and she's giving me shit. Iv cut down drinking in doors but still have 6 pints before I get home.
No other aspects of my life are that much of a proplem, just the drinking.
 
PapaverSom said:
Sorry for all these posts everyone, Ive been to the footie (YES LEEDS!!), doubled up on me methadone and had a fuckin skinfull off stella, but a question Ive wanted answering for a while, Blondin maybe u can help me wiv this one? :)

Methadone and drinking; I think theres evidence to say that as an MMT patient, you should avoid excessive alcohol. Is drinking on methadone particularly damaging to the liver? When I was on the gear full time b4 the meth I lost all apetite for booze and got to the point where, after about 2 years without a drop, I was scared of a pint! (having been on the verge of bein an alci before in life, happily drinking 10 pints a night 3 days a week and at the stage of 1 pint would get me pissed afeter work cos I was 'topping up'). So how come having been on meth for 4 years, but only recently having more or less stopped using gear on top, have i suddenly developed an urge to drink? I'm now drinking a steady 4 cans of stella a night, and wen I get the opportunity really letting fly and drinking 8 pints in a day/night if not more. Ive read a lt of really serious stuff about mixing alcohol with methadone. I've read that alcohol interferes with how methadone works-does it? Does it mean u go into wd qiicker after a heavy night drinking? is there a genuine risk I could die in my sleep after a night of really heavy boozin? (Have been on 80ml daily for years). Gear seems to eliminate the desire to drink but meth dont, anyone else get that? Feel free anyone to chip in wiv there experiences or knoiwledge, sorry for long post and soz for posting 4 posts like I said Im pissed n fuckin gaggin for a smoke! hence why I doubled up on me green :!
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So you were doing plenty of sitting on yer hands then , with the 4 goals and a sending off.

How did you manage to hold it down ?

Re. Booze n smack , i don'y like to combine them as the booze fuks up my nice opiate buzz.

But Methadone is a very different beast , i know loaads of folk that have got on mmt and taken up daily heavy drinking , i'm talkin infininte Special bRew here , personally i find it makes my methadone less effective n i end up in withdraw quicker 9if i drink.
 
strungout2010 said:
@papavorsom

I'd also be interested in some of these answers , I drink way to much and on top of my jollop, it's been goin on years. im honestly scared to get my liver checked out , iv blown out of 2 appointments , but now my mrs has found out , and she's giving me shit. Iv cut down drinking in doors but still have 6 pints before I get home.
No other aspects of my life are that much of a proplem, just the drinking.
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Dr B writes...
Methadone and booze are common bedfellows but the potentiation is at best low (try tagamet or grapefruit juice) I
personally dont get a buzz out of methadone anyway at best it just sends me to sleep.,
The danger lies in a depressed CNS which could cause you to choke on your own vomit or simply stop breathing the
booze will of course damage your liver but by no more if taking methadone. However most of you on here know your
limits but please bear in mind it COULD happen, The worst thing you can do is throw diazepam or similar in to the mix - but you all know that right?
 
btw papa i went to school in somerset - not a million miles away from glastonbury - anywhere near you?
 
brimz said:
Re. Booze n smack , i don'y like to combine them as the booze fuks up my nice opiate buzz.

But Methadone is a very different beast , i know loaads of folk that have got on mmt and taken up daily heavy drinking , i'm talkin infininte Special bRew here , personally i find it makes my methadone less effective n i end up in withdraw quicker 9if i drink.
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Totally agree.
 
been sick in bed all day
dragged myself to the pharmacy
and now have to go see a client
that's how it is with a habit tho
I do hope some of the posts here will stop even just 1 person getting a habit
 
kkattastic said:
I completely agree
single life is the only way

on another note-just completely broke down to my keyworker
i am now certain i will not get a fair trial as to get a fair trial you need to attend every hearing
i am also gonna look and smell like shit when i do attend
it is not only me that won't be attending-neither will my solicitor
i called 'release' and they said this was all true
even if the trial is supposed to be heard in the same country as the crime was committed-if you believe everything that is said of mmeI still never set foot in that country
it is just easier for the police dealing with the case-lazy fuckin plod
i am being treated as if i was guilty before even being tried
it's fucking outrageous and i have every intention of telling them on my one and only trip to court over there-i will NOT gop again regardless
just need to get this all on the record first
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ooh right a thought u ment u or ur lawyer wouldnt be attending court a mustv read this post wrong....am feelin a bit rough cause av been usein for the last 3 days and this seems to happen to me now wen a use for a few days dont no wat this is all about its like my body reacts to the gear has any of u long term h users experienced this...any ideas on this av asked people but nobody seems to know why am feeling like this wen am usein
 
Been absent a long time. How are you my cousins across the pond doing? I just admitted to my psychiatrist I relapsed on sub so he Rx me some (I've cut down to 2 mg/ day). If you all think methadone is disappointing- Oh well, I'll try to get off- but it helps my depression so much. In other news P-som was talking about drinking- this is a hobby i have took up in earnest. My local bar doesn't have the typical CA surf/ beach crowd- alot of Marines- current and retired- vets of all American wars from Grenada, to Lebanon, mostly Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, WWII, and everything in between. Here some epic stories from the retired ones. Alot of the vietnam era and some vets of the recent wars that discharged have med MJ cards.

Didn't get any buds from them personally b/c I don't have a card- but dispensary buds and hash is of amazing quality I have found first hand over the last several months, even by California standards, the quality always exceptional has reached superior heights.

And in the last 2 weeks, the feds reneged on their promise and have so far closed 62% of their dispensaries in San Diego County and as of the week before Thanksgiving 90 of 400 dispensaries and the casulty count is growing. Ironically you can still have delivery services and grow your own (disconcertingly the local 5-O has callaborated with the feds in contravention of state law. In northern CA there is less cooperation with the feds. Oaksterdam still stands in Oakland, and San Francisco is slightly less tolerant.

As far as other drugs, markets don't seem to be effected.

Sounds like the drought is still going on in the UK and Eire. Fuckin-A.

One thing I learned from a discharged US Marine is that they are getting involved in the Poppy burning business. Before the UK forces took the leading role in the south. He discribed acres of Poppies and Cannabis being burned (and having grown up on a farm in Iowa, refreshingly identified with the farmers in Afghanistan.) This is a short sighted appraoch, its gonna send more people into the extremist groups like Taliban, ect... and get more NATO troops killed- a man whose family is dying from starvation has nothing to loose- plus its gonna protract this drought.

You are having general strikes today. We have the occupy wallstreet movement. Its time to occupy shakedownstreet.:) and bring down the Narco-industrial complex.

Enough of my rant- missed you all and hope things are working out ok.
 
kkattastic said:
I do hope some of the posts here will stop even just 1 person getting a habit
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Me too, as I have said before, it upsets me that people on the 'drugs you wanna try' people say they want to try heroin...... I know trying it doesnt mean you will get a habit...... but a few of those people who try it probs will get one :| I can say 'its not worth it' till im blue in the face, but people will ignore me or come up with a reason to still try it :|

Hope the sickness goes. Stay Safe Kat. :)
 
I guess the people who say they want to try heroin are like a lot of us who thought that we could handle it and would no way end up with a habit.
I guess times and people never really change.
 
Once I did heroin a third time, I admitted to myself that it would be VERY possible I could end up with a habit..... but did I stop. evidently no!
 
I wonder how easily people on here got addicted to heroin? I was never around heroin growing up, i was around alcohol & every other drug know to mankind, but never heroin, my friends seemed to think all drugs were fine except heroin, they all looked down on heroin users.

The first time i came across heroin was at a small party, two people i sort of knew were smoking gear, straight away i wanted to try some, so i asked them for some, they weren't to keen so i chipped in money & they gave me a smoke. It took very little to get me stoned, but i loved the buzz! Strangely enough it didn't make me sick, i just had a lovely buzz all night! :)

The second time i used heroin was about 8 years later, i bumped into the same two people in the pub, they were gonna score & head home, so i chipped in again & went off & had a smoke with them. Again i took very little to get me stoned & i enjoyed every minute of it, great night!

I was always fond of having a few drinks & i enjoyed all drugs! I raved my way through the late 80's & early 90's taking E's, coke, acid, hash, K, speed, ect but i had only tried heroin those two times. Then about another 8 or 9 years passed & i started hanging around with a new group of people, heroin was part of that group so i found myself around heroin more & more. I'd smoke at weekends, then i wouldn't see that crowd during the week so i wouldn't use, but come the next weekend i'd meet up with them & use heroin again.

This is how both my boyfriend & i started using heroin regularly. These new friends were well used to their gear, we would all chip in the same amount of cash but at the time i could never keep up with the amount they used, so i wasn't long before my boyfriend & i decided to score on our own & go home & use by ourselves, & the rest is history........

I often wonder what life would be like if i had never met that group of friends? I rarely ever see them anymore. My boyfriend & i were perfectly happy with life before heroin, but i have to say we really enjoyed the first few years of using! But as time goes by it gets harder & harder to get stoned, you need more & more heroin just to feel well! Its worse then a full time job & we never have a penny for ourselves, heroin takes everything!

So now i'm sitting here all these years later, there has been a full on drought in Dublin for over a year. I haven't scored anything decent in all this time yet i'm still searching for it & wasting money on bash, hoping each time i score will be the jack-pot, but it never is.

I wasted another €100 on low grade rubbish yesterday, i sitting here now going over my used trays of foil trying to find any little bits that i missed & then i'm gonna smoke whats left in the tooter. The gear is useless so i don't know why i'm even bothering? But i can't think of anything else besides heroin, its an awful bloody habit......
 
Ructions My story is like yours except coke, meth, crack, shrooms, heroin. E, LSD, shrooms, cannabis, N2O, seconal, placidyl, halcion, valium, and especially heroin, specifically were my DOC during the early 90s dead scene. E, LSD, valium, meth, E, crack, cannabis. GHB. were integral parts of the rave scene in Sothern CA- actually their were overlaps between the scenes in NorCal- seems that those of us with widespread, indiscriminate psychedelic use were more susceptible to doing stuff (gear)- self medication to restore us to sanity is my theory. All the above drugs and more were part of the dead scene: peyotee, mescaline, ect....

I'll speak for my self- I was always suceptible to cannabis abuse. As a former hard core surfer it replaced the stoke and after all the psychedelic use made me feel grounded. Wonder if Charlie can relate. Point is there is always gonna be a % of us that need opiates, I don't care if the message cones from NYC, London, or Belfast, or Kompala, Uganda, the truisim endures.

Anyone disagree? Our countries are still democracies (though precarious ones).
 
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