Heroin Social Chat v4

[kkattastic]

Gonna have that gear tonight i reckons, dont have much
Does taking bupe reduce the effects? Had .3mg or so and 25mg promethazine/2 blues earlier, i remember reading that bupe on its own would block the effects and i've just double checked wiki:

'Blockade effect

Buprenorphine (Subutex) itself binds more strongly to receptors in the brain than do other opioids, making it more difficult for opioids (or opiates) to react when buprenorphine is in the system.'

Will this apply to the low dose of bupe i'm on? Hoping for a good nod tonight, and i'd take the word of an experienced BLer or user over wikipedia anyday , so would it dull the effects of the H? And if so, would it stop me noddign or getting pleasurable effects from the H?
Its good gear believe it or not!
Cheers

I been on subutex before
my understanding of using on top of bupe is that it is a bit like drinking on top of antabuse
you may experience a slight rattle but you can smoke your way past that
someone correct me if i am wrong
i am no expert
that's what happened with me when i used on top of my subbies

 

[Myshkin]

my understanding of using on top of bupe is that it is a bit like drinking on top of antabuse

Sounds fuckin' nasty.

Why not save the gear for the morra and stick to benzos tonight?

 

[jspun]

@Kat

hey JSPUN,if you still about i wanna ask something
I watch 'the wire'
i expect you seen it
is that what the drug scene is really like in the US?
do they make up names for the gear like 'WMD' or 'bin laden'?
how true is the shit they do on that show?

Hey Kat, howz it going?

In the Eastern Seaboard and I believe Chicago to some extent, #4 comes in glassine bags, or stamps as their called (I believe bags used by stamp collectors). Dealers name batches- a form of brand recognition, so the buyer can buy quality based on reputation. Anyway, this is my understanding and this has been part of the east coast sceen since the 80s atleast, maybe before. I think stamps have teeners in them. Bundles are multiple stamps (I think 10?)

Now the west coast scene I am intimately familiar with. This is tar country and 10th-1/4 grams, sometimes halves were traditionaly wrapped in cellophane which was wrapped in ballons which the dealer kept in his mouth on the streets. As I got degits, connections would just wrap the tar in cellophane or plastic bag wraping. But the term ballons is someimes synonimous with bags.
"Quaditos" quarter grams, were the units often sold to end users in the 90s in San Diego. In San Francisco ballons on the street often contained a teener of tar and a teener of coke- they were sold together as a matter of practice for some time.

But in answer to your question they do name their batches- those east coasters have always been brand concious- with cloathes ect...8)lol. Never hooked up on the East Coast first hand, though.

 

[Kronos]

Sounds fuckin' nasty.

Why not save the gear for the morra and stick to benzos tonight?

Did that last night, gonna use the brown tonight. I know in high doses subs have the effects kkat mentioned, but unless anyone with experience with low low doses (0.2-0.4mg of buperenorphine), sure thats much to small a dose to fill all the opiate receptors or however it works. Heres to hoping anyways.

I been on subutex before
my understanding of using on top of bupe is that it is a bit like drinking on top of antabuse
you may experience a slight rattle but you can smoke your way past that
someone correct me if i am wrong
i am no expert
that's what happened with me when i used on top of my subbies

What dose of subs were you on? I've only done 0.2mg 2 hrs back, and maybe some this morning my memorys a bit blurred, so im hoping as the dose is so low ther'l be no problems. Havnt done H for ages, looking forward to it! Heres to hoping it aint bash

 

[kkattastic]

Did that last night, gonna use the brown tonight. I know in high doses subs have the effects kkat mentioned, but unless anyone with experience with low low doses (0.2-0.4mg of buperenorphine), sure thats much to small a dose to fill all the opiate receptors or however it works. Heres to hoping anyways.



What dose of subs were you on? I've only done 0.2mg 2 hrs back, and maybe some this morning my memorys a bit blurred, so im hoping as the dose is so low ther'l be no problems. Havnt done H for ages, looking forward to it! Heres to hoping it aint bash

I don't recall the dose but i think it was higher than that
but it's what you are used to and how good the H is

 

[kkattastic]

@Kat

Hey Kat, howz it going?

In the Eastern Seaboard and I believe Chicago to some extent, #4 comes in glassine bags, or stamps as their called (I believe bags used by stamp collectors). Dealers name batches- a form of brand recognition, so the buyer can buy quality based on reputation. Anyway, this is my understanding and this has been part of the east coast sceen since the 80s atleast, maybe before. I think stamps have teeners in them. Bundles are multiple stamps (I think 10?)

Now the west coast scene I am intimately familiar with. This is tar country and 10th-1/4 grams, sometimes halves were traditionaly wrapped in cellophane which was wrapped in ballons which the dealer kept in his mouth on the streets. As I got degits, connections would just wrap the tar in cellophane or plastic bag wraping. But the term ballons is someimes synonimous with bags.
"Quaditos" quarter grams, were the units often sold to end users in the 90s in San Diego. In San Francisco ballons on the street often contained a teener of tar and a teener of coke- they were sold together as a matter of practice for some time.

But in answer to your question they do name their batches- those east coasters have always been brand concious- with cloathes ect...8)lol. Never hooked up on the East Coast first hand, though.

Thanks for the answer
have you seen that show?
i just wanted to know if it was accurate
is the scene that different in different states/areas?

 

[pinkpapaver]

hAY, I FEEL like i useta feel back in the old days afeter a lil smoke in the evening, just kind of, mellow, like i like to feel, not gouchy wrecked off it or anything, but that nice kind of levelled feeling, not smacked off it or anything,

anyone gotany good horror stories of this drought? for soo many people, jsut strange things have happened, cant explain it, but it really has been such a strange time for me this drought, well, its been a change, a change from teh old routine, and ive been learning about all sorts of new things in the process, or maybe im just having a midlife crisis, i dunno, but think its time to wake up and smell the spring time flowers or something, im a lovely gal really, has heroin destroyed me? has heroin stopped me from being who im meant to be? no, not a chance, its held me back a bit, but feckin work, and people pleasing have held me back, i got so much in my head man, so much in my head, that i just wanna share, its not fucked up stuff, i just love sharing the love, the peace the music the laughter, im just chattin shit with the computer here, coz the dogs gone to sleep...... yeah the drought, it just showed me how fucking hard i was working, and how much responsibilty i have for everything on me own.... perfect excuse to fuck up i think... been more fucked up since say jan, than ever at all in all me addiction, ask my son, he knows

 

[kkattastic]

hAY, I FEEL like i useta feel back in the old days afeter a lil smoke in the evening, just kind of, mellow, like i like to feel, not gouchy wrecked off it or anything, but that nice kind of levelled feeling, not smacked off it or anything,

anyone gotany good horror stories of this drought? for soo many people, jsut strange things have happened, cant explain it, but it really has been such a strange time for me this drought, well, its been a change, a change from teh old routine, and ive been learning about all sorts of new things in the process, or maybe im just having a midlife crisis, i dunno, but think its time to wake up and smell the spring time flowers or something, im a lovely gal really, has heroin destroyed me? has heroin stopped me from being who im meant to be? no, not a chance, its held me back a bit, but feckin work, and people pleasing have held me back, i got so much in my head man, so much in my head, that i just wanna share, its not fucked up stuff, i just love sharing the love, the peace the music the laughter, im just chattin shit with the computer here, coz the dogs gone to sleep...... yeah the drought, it just showed me how fucking hard i was working, and how much responsibilty i have for everything on me own.... perfect excuse to fuck up i think... been more fucked up since say jan, than ever at all in all me addiction, ask my son, he knows

how old is your son?
does he know about your habit?
i told my daughter about mine but told her i had quit
haven't managed to tell my son yet tho i reckon he knows

 

[jspun]

@kkat

Thanks for the answer
have you seen that show?
i just wanted to know if it was accurate
is the scene that different in different states/areas?

Very. In general Colombian #4 East of the Mississippi with the exception of Ohio which is tar country with a huge thriving scene. Chicago has a huge scene and its members dominate our heroin regional thread- from what i gather their is a mix of Colombian, Mexican, and to a smaller extent afgan and SEA heroin. The south seems to be in somewhat of a drought especially florida were pharm opiates still rein king. In "tar country" the general quality of tar varies depending one which cartel brings it in, ect... Arizona appears to have better dope than CA. The dope also tends to be better the closer you are to the border. As you go North, tar extends as far as Seattle, but once you cross the border into Vancouver the quality improves and you have #4 SEA and I've read reports of #3 afgan- I've read stories of Americans crossing into Vancouver to score. In San Diego they cross into TJ often.

So there are differences so far as I can tell, regional as well as variations in quality within a state or even city depending on who you know.

But every scene has its own lingo and peculiarities.

When I read Chicago posts they often use terminology thats is alien to me to describe weight, ect...

 

[CbRoXiDe]

Hey guys, hope everyone is ok, today is my first day of no gear. Got sub in my system so feel ok and feel positive about stopping! Was ok for a week or two when I had no tolerance and the constant supply of average stuff would give me an allright nod, but now paying same price for average stuff with abit of a tolerance again, i'm just paying to sustain myself and not be sick, and not getting any kind of high what so ever. Also come to realisation it's starting to effect my life again aswell, I always take that as a sign i'm overdoing it. Had only been uni one day last week, so didn't realise I had two deadlines for yesterday, not one. I'd finished one, but by time I found out there was another was too late, luckily it's a unit that's split into three, so I can hand the second part in late and get a maximum of 40% for it, but that 40% is only worth 30% of the hole unit. So with the other two parts I can hand in on time and bump it up. Fuck gear messing up my uni, time to stop !

Allthough I did try for the first time IV'ing crack few days back. As soon as I pulled the needle out I had to take my top of, I got so hot so fast. But fuck, it was intense. I do have a picture of what I look like, but it basically just looks like i'm getting my dick sucked I look that happy. So don't think i'll be uploading that !

On a side note, I think i'm gunna be ok stopping. Just I think i've now got myself a needle fixation. Is there anything you can do for this ? Or have you just gotta man up and resist the urge? Could you do something like just inject water, or is that bad for you ? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[pinkpapaver]

how old is your son?
does he know about your habit?
i told my daughter about mine but told her i had quit
haven't managed to tell my son yet tho i reckon he knows

14 and yes... i suffer from guiltyitis all the time and he has a touch of the brattyitis , course im not the best mom in the world, i mean its not a competion any way, i love my son, my son loves me, i work hard, i make mistakes, but guess what? i do a lot of stuff right a lot of the time, im just fcuked at the moment, but im a live, my son has wanted a dog for years, he's got a dog now, ive wanted a dog for years, i ve got dog now, here,ill do a pictuer of here tomorrow, so the dogs great.



PRETTY THING:
All these people hanging round 8)
Waiting for the world to change
All this pressure coming down
Life is not a pretty thing
Standing in the pouring rain
Lonely eyes and soaking skin
Wishing it was yesterday 8)
I say life is not a pretty thing
Trying hard to make it work
Losing all my faith in God
Shaking hands shaking heads
Why, please tell me why
Is all this sorrow and suffering
Still going on
All they ever wanted was a chance to live
Sometimes I just wonder
Can they forgive, how can they still forgive
All these people running scared
Seen so many times before
Life is something to be shared
Life is not a pretty thing
I can't see the sense in this
Where has all the feeling gone
Woke up this morning with a pain in my head
Tried to work it out but I went back to bed
This ain't the way that it's supposed to be 8)
This is not the day
This is not me
Half my life is wasted the rest does not exist
They're writing to papers 8)
They're making out lists 8)
Searching for reasons why everythings a mess
Why we sit and take it is anybodys guess
And oh, life is not a pretty thing
Life is not pretty, pretty %)
Life is not a pretty thing
Pretty thing :D
Pretty thing
When you're shaking hands and breaking heads
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/a/aslan/pretty_thing.html ]

 

[pinkpapaver]

the day the drought started for me ....9 th nov 10

Hey guys, hope everyone is ok, today is my first day of no gear. Got sub in my system so feel ok and feel positive about stopping! Was ok for a week or two when I had no tolerance and the constant supply of average stuff would give me an allright nod, but now paying same price for average stuff with abit of a tolerance again, i'm just paying to sustain myself and not be sick, and not getting any kind of high what so ever. Also come to realisation it's starting to effect my life again aswell, I always take that as a sign i'm overdoing it. Had only been uni one day last week, so didn't realise I had two deadlines for yesterday, not one. I'd finished one, but by time I found out there was another was too late, luckily it's a unit that's split into three, so I can hand the second part in late and get a maximum of 40% for it, but that 40% is only worth 30% of the hole unit. So with the other two parts I can hand in on time and bump it up. Fuck gear messing up my uni, time to stop !

Allthough I did try for the first time IV'ing crack few days back. As soon as I pulled the needle out I had to take my top of, I got so hot so fast. But fuck, it was intense. I do have a picture of what I look like, but it basically just looks like i'm getting my dick sucked I look that happy. So don't think i'll be uploading that !

On a side note, I think i'm gunna be ok stopping. Just I think i've now got myself a needle fixation. Is there anything you can do for this ? Or have you just gotta man up and resist the urge? Could you do something like just inject water, or is that bad for you ? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

jayus when i was at uni i had better thigs to do than i ving crack, feck me, ur a feckin wierdo you are, ive been watching yuo for months, and yer a bit strange alright, man, is this really you, is this really you, the way you go on there. theres something unbelievable....... yer arm willl fal off if ya keep goin on like an eejit "can i inject water" go on then son, inject water if ya like, sure it cant do any harm, yev beein injectin smack and crack, sure why not?

question, yer 1st day wi no gear........since when ? jays us my 1st day without gear in 11 whole years was 9th november 2010, etched into me brain it is,

what degree are ya doin ya hairy ,melon?

 

[CbRoXiDe]

I'm the weirdo, yet you've 'been watching me for months' ok then .

This is a harm reduction board, I can ask questions no matter what they are.

And why are you even asking what degree i'm doing after being an unhelpful and cuntish.

 

[xXBeLikeTyler]

It's so dry in my area it's ridiculous! I would settle for some methadones, vallies, anything... can't find shit around here though.

 

[pinkpapaver]

ok then heres yer harm reduction for ya..... stop the drugs its not big and its not clever.....watc h out if yer diggin gear, coz theres alot of shite around, but there might be some trong stuff out there too, so be very careful.... careful with the crack there, are ya sure ya can affod it.. if ye are diggin dont do it alone, make sure everything is clean

 

[Acidtek]

Iv'ing crack is proper bad for your veins mate, I know you probably know that already, take a few boots on the gear first to try and gauge the strength! It's a dangerous time to be iv'ing at the moment mate with such fluctuations in the quality of gear... I haven't used for 10 months but I feel for you at the moment. Try to stick to your script mate. Hope your ok

 

[CbRoXiDe]

ok then heres yer harm reduction for ya..... stop the drugs its not big and its not clever.....watc h out if yer diggin gear, coz theres alot of shite around, but there might be some trong stuff out there too, so be very careful.... careful with the crack there, are ya sure ya can affod it.. if ye are diggin dont do it alone, make sure everything is clean

Aye, stop the drugs. Thanks for that little golden nugget of harm reduction, I would of never thought of that one myself.

As for the rest, thanks again for not being helpful at all. But now... I AM GUNNA GO BUY 3 TWENTY BAGS OF GEAR AND 7 GRAM ROCKS AND DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME CAUSE IM SO FREAKING SUPER AWESOME AND COOL !!!!!!!!!!!

This is the social chat thread, I was just posting some chat about what i've done and been up to lately and how i'm doing. With it being the HEROIN social chat thread y'know, I thought i'd put some heroin related news, as there's the gibberings thread for general chit chat. And as per usual I get abuse and criticised for no fucking reason what so ever, I don't know why I even bother. You can all just fuck off.

 

[Kronos]

sweeey, guy just rang back and said he had another 2 bags. Smoked sdomne earlier and pinned one, fucked up the filtering though so ig ot fuck all off the pin while the mate got a niice rush

wish id had the call 20 mins soon as just doses loads of diaz and bupe so i can sleep, ahh well no rest for the wicked, gear should be here soon :D, il just have to be v careful. Hopefuly get that rush i was looking for thisd time ha

Vannae wait! Happy wednesdays everyone"

 

[Myshkin]

This is the social chat thread, I was just posting some chat about what i've done and been up to lately and how i'm doing. With it being the HEROIN social chat thread y'know, I thought i'd put some heroin related news, as there's the gibberings thread for general chit chat. And as per usual I get abuse and criticised for no fucking reason what so ever, I don't know why I even bother. You can all just fuck off.

Whoah! Easy, tiger! Or should I say hedgehog?

You've been around the multiple incarnations of this thread long enough to know it's a mutually-supportive affair (with the odd bit of dicksizing, abuse and BS thrown in fom time-to-time maybe, but hey, this is the internet).

I really think those words were meant as supportive advice rather than a lecture. Okay, maybe it's not what you wanted or needed to hear, and I notice you've made a decision to clean up your act, so well done on that. I really think it was meant with the best of intentions, so to react like that is a bit extreme, but understandable given the circumstamces.

At the same time though, you're mentioning having acquired a needle fixation and IV'ing crack for the first time the other day, both of which could be (and should be) seen as disturbing developments by many who've seen where that can lead. Not only that, but you had a picture of said event taken for posterity. Is it any wonder people are showing a bit of concern?

Well done for coming to the realisation that your future is more important than brown powder of dubious quality, and welcome back.

 

[brimz]

Thanks for the answer
have you seen that show?
i just wanted to know if it was accurate
is the scene that different in different states/areas?

I can confirm that the Wire is a pretty accurate account of the Drug trade in Baltimore. Many of the main characters Avon Barksdale, Omar etc are actually based on real people.
I luv the Wire n have seen the whole series twice. If u like The Wire i would recommend another Book/Mini Series based in Baltimore called The Corner .
It actually came out b4 the Wire and is an excellent piece of work . It is written by David Simon & Ed Burns and is true tale of a life of an inner city Neighbourhood.
i really reccomend it I've read the book n seen the Mini series , they are both availible from Amazon for a pretty reasonable price, I 'm sure u will really enjoy it although it can be a bit harrowing at times but thats real life 4 you.