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Heroin heroin - Recently started chasing

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Hey there, i'm new to the forums,

I'd just like to ask the advice of people who use heroin

I've tried a variety of opiates over the years but have never taken anything in particular frequently enough to consider it a habit.

I first tried H a year or two ago then used very infrequently with friends,

Recently (the last couple of weeks) I have begun smoking by myself as I now have a contact very close to me who who sorts me out.

I've always had some issues with anxiety and such like, and H obviously helps so much with that.

Basically I would like to know if I am being naive to think that I can chase on and off and not end up with a habit.

Can anyone tell me their particular experience with addiction or lack there of?

Any advice is appreciated, Thanks
 
Don't do it man. You might manage to chip for a few months, maybe longer but eventually it will become a habit. You tell yourself you'll never inject, but you end up trying it and it's all over. I have anxiety as well, and like you said nothing can compare to opiates in combating anxiety. There are a few problems with this. Sometimes your not anxious enough, basically you don't give a shit about anything and your life goes to shit. Also it eventually doesn't work the same as it used to. It could be months, and even years where the opiates help you out without any negative mental side effects. I'm lucky and unlucky that I could not enjoy opiates after a few months. Basically, I used to prevent withdrawals and being high would just level me out. Coming down, was very depressing; I was more depressed than I was before I started using opiates.
 
Thanks for the reply, I see exactly what you're saying.. my common sense is telling me that its a poor idea to try and self medicate, especially as I have quite an addictive personality as it is. The main problem for me is that when I feel down enough common sense seems to almost disappear completely. And now that I can get sorted in a matter of minutes means I've been binging a bit. have you been through a habit for a long time?
 
i know heroin is in a completely different league to all the painkillers except morphians however i did attempt to self medicate depression with opiates as i refuse point blank to go on anti depressants and put up with a load of Councillor bullshit etc. and although the results i had were utterly astounding eventually once i spent long enough on them without feeling depressed i forgot about the real reason i took them, i literally forgot that i was depressed and just started chasing a high, then when tolerance reared its ugly little head and i couldn't get high anymore i not only was reminded but went through my initial reasons for taking them and it was magnified ten fold, i thought my issues with my mood were bad before hand but i was/am in a whole new level of self loathing and really regret that choice, and now am finding myself moving up and up the ladder of opiates taking harder and harder ones whenever the chance occurs, what im trying to say is, yes they are a fucking brilliant medication for mental disorders and pain but they are not given out for mental disorders because of they're drawbacks, from experience i NEEDED to by high to reap the rewards they had whereas with pain analgesia occurs below the recreational dose *generally speaking* so long term use is not as much of a problem, do yourself a favor and seriously as impossible as it is, eradicate all memory of what that high is like and just forget that you ever tried this, i know it wont happen but if you manage to get out early you stand a lot more chance at living, i dunno if you smoke, but imagine being more addicted to something that is infinitely more threatening socially/physically and psychologically not only to you but the ones who you love.

all the best, seriously.
 
Things get bad with self-medicating for anxiety. I've been through it with many drugs including heroin. i still don't know what's worse: heroin addiction or xanax addiction. I shit you not, it has taken me literally ten years to get completely clean from xanax. I don't shoot heroin anymore, but in order to quit I had to shut my life completely down and start from zero again. As you get older, you'll realize that life is like a video game to an extent: you do have multiple lives, but falling down the pit and starting over will get very old very fast. It would be a good idea if you stopped doing smack. Chasing the dragon is potent and kicks in fast just like injecting. This will yield the same ups and downs, same sickness, etc. You're not there yet, but I guarantee that every hit you take will bring you closer.
 
Well I just got off my legals a little over two weeks ago and like a fool I have been using everyday. I was using once, maybe twice a week, before that for a month and before that I was away and was clean for over three months. I made the mistake of using everyday I didn't even take the time to get into it, and now I'm stuck with a habit. If I don't use within twelve or so hours I start feeling shitty. Bare in mind I have only been using 4 or 5 bundles a week for two weeks but still it sucks and I want to take breaks to save money, maybe lower my tolerance a little. Last year for six months I used every day straight OC's absolutely no days off and when it came to stop it was hell. I can imagine being on the stuff for years and trying to come off. Also, you pick up where you leave off in your addiction. I used everyday then quit for a couple months then started shooting dope on Friday's only because of my legals and I thought I had some control over it. My priorities where not to go to jail but once that was off the table I was off to the races. I can't say enough not to get into it man. I spent three months in a rehab people telling me the same thing and I brushed it off. Not me, I can control it, yada yada yada. Deadass.
 
Chase long enough and sooner or later its going to bite you in the ass. It always does.
 
I wouldn't continue to do that if you are not looking to be an addict. Especially since you are also self-medicating with it. I have been through hell and back just like pretty much every other long-term IV user. I never even thought I would ever IV. I snorted opiates for 4 years only using the point maybe 3 times throughout. I thought I'd never be hooked on the point. Before I knew it, I was slamming everything from fent to bupe to adderall to H to oxymorphone up to ten times a day.

Even trying to do the 'it's ok if I do it once a week' method is too much. Because I tried that after about the first year of doing opiates almost everyday and I was still just as hooked using only once a week. That's all I looked forward to, was that one day that week I could use. Or like if something came up super-cheap, then I'd give myself a reason to use twice that week and etc.

My advice is pretty much to try not to ever do it days in a row. Never get to a point to where you would withdrawal without it or to the point of needing it to be able to do anything. I used to always have to use to do homework while I was in college. Then that just grew to always having to use to go to class. And just got worse. To the point to where I was always in bed because I was either too high or too sick to get out of the bed.

I'm not saying you will get to that point or anything. I am just warning you. That is what it can get like.

My habbit started out as a little more of a thing my best friend and I would do a lot when we got together. I grew to like it more because it helped with my depression too. But slowly, more and more, were my best friend and I using until we were to the point to where we were always together and always using. And that we were. Using more times and using more miligrams. Before you know it you can't do anything without, shooting up up to 10 times a day, completely broke and etc.

If you can do it, get away with using once in a blue moon. More power to you then I guess. Because(to me) it's hands down, the best feeling in the world by far. But I'd hate for you to go overboard man. I was 17-18 once I started using opiates everyday. So I was young and had no idea of the dangers and pain of addiction and the withdrawal. No one warned me and I wish they would have.

Just be cautious, stay smart, and be safe.
 
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I wouldn't continue to do that if you are not looking to be an addict. Especially since you are also self-medicating with it. I have been through hell and back just like pretty much every other long-term IV user. I never even thought I would ever IV. I snorted opiates for 4 years only using the point maybe 3 times throughout. I thought I'd never be hooked on the point. Before I knew it, I was slamming everything from fent to bupe to adderall to H to oxymorphone up to ten times a day.

Even trying to do the 'it's ok if I do it once a week' method is too much. Because I tried that after about the first year of doing opiates almost everyday and I was still just as hooked using only once a week. That's all I looked forward to, was that one day that week I could use. Or like if something came up super-cheap, then I'd give myself a reason to use twice that week and etc.

My advice is pretty much to try not to ever do it days in a row. Never get to a point to where you would withdrawal without it or to the point of needing it to be able to do anything. I used to always have to use to do homework while I was in college. Then that just grew to always having to use to go to class. And just got worse. To the point to where I was always in bed because I was either too high or too sick to get out of the bed.

I'm not saying you will get to that point or anything. I am just warning you. That is what it can get like.

My habbit started out as a little more of a thing my best friend and I would do a lot when we got together. I grew to like it more because it helped with my depression too. But slowly, more and more, were my best friend and I using until we were to the point to where we were always together and always using. And that we were. Using more times and using more miligrams. Before you know it you can't do anything without, shooting up up to 10 times a day, completely broke and etc.

If you can do it, get away with using once in a blue moon. More power to you then I guess. Because(to me) it's hands down, the best feeling in the world by far. But I'd hate for you to go overboard man. I was 17-18 once I started using opiates everyday. So I was young and had no idea of the dangers and pain of addiction and the withdrawal. No one warned me and I wish they would have.

Just be cautious, stay smart, and be safe.
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^Read this very carefully OP. Its got a lot of truth to it. I can think of 5-6 kids off the top of my head, all 16-18 that got into it the exact same way. Almost to the T. It happens all the time. It gets a grip on you and before you know it you can't stop. Then after awhile when you start getting dope sick you HAVE to use. Honestly there were times I honestly had no interest in using that day, but I had to or I'd be sick as shit. Listen to what everyone else is saying, this is the real deal and it creeps up on you quick. VERY few people can successfully use occasionally. Heed the warnings and stop before its too late. Heroin can take your soul, change you from the inside and out, and completely turn your world upside down within a very small amount of time. It doesn't just happen to the people that use for 5 years it happens to a lot of people who are just starting out.
 
I dont think i get sick, went 3-6 days without it before and the worst i felt was a sweaty/hot feeling al over, sneezing and almost runny nose. it went away by 3rd day though and i was sort of ok. But I dont shoot I snort it and I dont use much, im talking like 2-4 points throughout 3 weeks to a month and I dont know what that is to a "bag" what i read on here and since i cant name a price that dont help.
 
you WILL get sucked in...no ifs ands or buts. But the good thing for you is that you are aware of it right now..and that sweaty hot feeling thats "ehhh...i kinda feel shitty" is gonna turn into something a hell of alot worse trust me..i was the SAME way man..first just a friday night..it was like my "reward" i used to look forward to it..then it was the weekends..then 3 nights a week, then..before i was physically addicted i started to get antsy and think about it all the time and say..well " just tonight" then it just snowballs..so right now your really playing with fire man!! and your little mini bouts of baby "dope sick" are gonna get worse and worse and uuuggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
 
don't even try. you will might be able to sure .. might, but if you fail and get hooked you will be sorry.
 
Thanks for the replies, Theres a lot of the same message in most of what you guys are saying. Thats really what I was looking for, I can now answer my own question with a resounding no: It's not going to be possible for me to have access to H all the time and keep a lid on using. I'm going to try and knock this one on the head before it starts and resist the urge of buying it when I feel like shit. I appreciate you guys letting me know from personal experience what this stuff can do, probably best to leave it well alone.

cheers again guys
 
Reddo_ said:
Hey there, i'm new to the forums,

I'd just like to ask the advice of people who use heroin

I've tried a variety of opiates over the years but have never taken anything in particular frequently enough to consider it a habit.

I first tried H a year or two ago then used very infrequently with friends,

Recently (the last couple of weeks) I have begun smoking by myself as I now have a contact very close to me who who sorts me out.

I've always had some issues with anxiety and such like, and H obviously helps so much with that.

Basically I would like to know if I am being naive to think that I can chase on and off and not end up with a habit.

Can anyone tell me their particular experience with addiction or lack there of?

Any advice is appreciated, Thanks
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I do not think that you can chase the habit without becoming addicted. I think that you said it yourself: that you are naive. I am in no way flkaming or trying to be harsh in any way, just simply trying to be honst. I, like you , thought that I could tame the habit, but I lost it. I was able to just do it occasionally, and not let it control me. But I lost control.

You may be different do not get me wrong. Everyone is different. But man, be careful.. Please. Chasing the dragon is a very deadly thing that can lead to catastrophic endings.
 
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the way you are using definitly points you towards addiction. I agree 100% that its the absolute best thing for anxiety but once you come down atleast for me the anxiety comes back worse then before. This would lead to wanting to do more, and you see where it goes. Just be super careful its really easy to slide, so many people I know had it creep up out of no where and before they knew it they were in deep.
 
You already knew the answer to this when you posted the question...see where you said that your common sense tells you its a bad idea...yep. Go with that. As everyone here has been saying, it will catch up with you and have a very definite impact on your life, most likely negative. H is no joke. Nobody here who has had any genuine experience will condone your proposal. The choice to abort now is wise and will save you a lot of pain.
 
I have a different story with H. I knew my friends were doing it and i already liked opiates, just didn't do them often at all. Decided one time that im gonna pick up a sack, the dealer hooked me up a fat bag of china white(around .5) . He obviously wanted to get hooked, i basically dove right in. Didn't care about spacing it out, just went straight to daily usage. How ever i was only doing like 3-4 bumps a day, not lines. Anyways i liked the high off other opiates more for some reason and knew that this stuff definitely had a pull to it. Once i ran out i told my self thats it, no more coming back for more. I wanted to experience it and i did, stuff lasted me over a month. Anyways my story is different from most people, usually they go back for more. I still love opiates but i basically just put a stop to my self
 
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