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Heroin or Dilaudid/Hydromorphone

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lovebuzzer

lovebuzzer

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I have been a Dilaudid user for some time now and I have been doing some Heroin for a while and for the first time because I can no longer get Diladid. I have actually bought a grams and tried different amounts until I felt like I got the most effect. After doing the Dilaudid's for so long, the Heroin felt like Vicoden compared to Dilaudid. I never got a rush that was anywhere near Dilaudid.

Another thing that is weird is that Dilaudid seems to have a broad range of effectiveness compared to most other opiates because when I can do 12mgs, 4 mg still give me a great rush. When I did the Heroin, I couldn't feel anything until I thought I shouldn't do anymore, which seemed risky. Has anyone else experienced this?

Can anyone that has done both comment on their feelings of which they liked better. If it was a one time deal then please mention that. I have tried both more then once and would like to know if it is just me that thinks Dilaudid is the most euphoric opiate or is Heroin better?
 
I know what you are feeling. I have been slamming oxy's for 6 years and when the OP's came out I switched to dilaudid. I was doing heroin occastionally, until I found a good hook. I was slamming a gram of h at a time and I wouldnt be that fucked up so I just thought that the pills were just better becasue they were made by drug companies with strict standards. However, when you finally find a hook with some really good china white, instead of some stompped on tar, then you will think that h is better. It also makes a huge difference if you are snorting it, smoking it, or slamming it. Obviously, if you are doing the first two with some so-so h, then you arent going to get as high as if you were slamming it.

Also, if you are just into Dilaudid, for me it is kind of a different feeling then like oxy's and h. I dont really know how to describe the difference but i prefer the high of oxy's and h as opposed to dilaudid and you might just like that high better...it just depends.

There are so many different variables...depends on your body, your likes, your tolerance, the quality of your drugs, your method...
 
I've never shot anything, but snorted, decent heroin blows hydromorphone away. Oxy is a unique uplifting high but Dilaudid has no real advantages at all over the H, just a weaker blander version of the same high.
 
you've obviously never had good heroin.

I find the hydromorphone rush rather intense, but still not as "nice" as a rush from good dope.
 
I've had plenty of different batches of powder and tar heroin on both coasts of the US as well as from the midwest. Not only does the rush not compare to hydromorphone for me, but neither does the sustained high for the next 2 hours. Hydromorphone gets me higher in every way no matter the dosage.
 
However, when you finally find a hook with some really good china white, instead of some stompped on tar, then you will think that h is better.

Just because its tar doesn't mean that its weak. In AZ (right near the source) we've got some really potent stuff up to 75% according to the DEA. White powder is around that percentage as well.

Good quality heroin is better than hydromorphone in my opinion. I very much enjoy the rush of hydromorphone but heroin lasts longer and very nicely euphoric.
 
Hydro is smooth everytime, no matter what. i guess being made in a lab has to do with that.

H on the other hand is the small dark barking a few streets away that when you finally take the time to pet it for the first time it rips your hand off at the same time you give you other hand to the small barking dog becauseyou'd rather have no hands then to ever live with the small barking dog again.
 
flybynite1974 said:
Hydro is smooth everytime, no matter what. i guess being made in a lab has to do with that.

H on the other hand is the small dark barking a few streets away that when you finally take the time to pet it for the first time it rips your hand off at the same time you give you other hand to the small barking dog becauseyou'd rather have no hands then to ever live with the small barking dog again.
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Stay away from the barking dog................%)
 
Yesterday I got two more grams of Heroin from the same guy. The first time I did a whole gram and I felt nothing. I then did another 1/2 gram and still nothing. Then I did a hit off my old cottons from my Dilaudid which probably has very little in it and it gave me a great rush.

The H I bought this time had did not completely dissolve in water like the first stuff did. I had a grey goo that floated kind of like the stuff with Oxy's when prepared for IV. Is this cut?

The guy I am getting if from is known for good stuff and he is from Detroit.

The stuff I have been getting is tan/grey in color. Is this normal?

What is good Heroin(powder) look like? Is it pure white if it is good.

I can't believe that the stuff had nothing in it. I do have a high tolerence to Dilaudid as I can shoot 16-20mgs at a time. Do you think the amount of H I was using was not enough. I know H is usually always cut but I should have felt something shouldn't I. Unless is had absolutely nothing.

This is my first experience with H and I did start out slow because I had no idea how strong it was. But working up to a gram and 1/2 is a ton isn't it?

Do you think what I got had nothing in it, or was is just not enough?

Damn, now I have to go through the trouble of finding another hook.

If H is really good, how do you know how much to do? Is it usually trial and error?
 
lovebuzzer said:
Yesterday I got two more grams of Heroin from the same guy. The first time I did a whole gram and I felt nothing. I then did another 1/2 gram and still nothing. Then I did a hit off my old cottons from my Dilaudid which probably has very little in it and it gave me a great rush.

The H I bought this time had did not completely dissolve in water like the first stuff did. I had a grey goo that floated kind of like the stuff with Oxy's when prepared for IV. Is this cut?

The guy I am getting if from is known for good stuff and he is from Detroit.

The stuff I have been getting is tan/grey in color. Is this normal?

What is good Heroin(powder) look like? Is it pure white if it is good.

I can't believe that the stuff had nothing in it. I do have a high tolerence to Dilaudid as I can shoot 16-20mgs at a time. Do you think the amount of H I was using was not enough. I know H is usually always cut but I should have felt something shouldn't I. Unless is had absolutely nothing.

This is my first experience with H and I did start out slow because I had no idea how strong it was. But working up to a gram and 1/2 is a ton isn't it?

Do you think what I got had nothing in it, or was is just not enough?

Damn, now I have to go through the trouble of finding another hook.

If H is really good, how do you know how much to do? Is it usually trial and error?
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Ive never done heroin but if you did 1 gram & 1/2 & got nothing out of it, pretty good chance it was bunk.
 
lovebuzzer said:
Yesterday I got two more grams of Heroin from the same guy. The first time I did a whole gram and I felt nothing. I then did another 1/2 gram and still nothing. Then I did a hit off my old cottons from my Dilaudid which probably has very little in it and it gave me a great rush.

The H I bought this time had did not completely dissolve in water like the first stuff did. I had a grey goo that floated kind of like the stuff with Oxy's when prepared for IV. Is this cut?

The guy I am getting if from is known for good stuff and he is from Detroit.

The stuff I have been getting is tan/grey in color. Is this normal?

What is good Heroin(powder) look like? Is it pure white if it is good.

I can't believe that the stuff had nothing in it. I do have a high tolerence to Dilaudid as I can shoot 16-20mgs at a time. Do you think the amount of H I was using was not enough. I know H is usually always cut but I should have felt something shouldn't I. Unless is had absolutely nothing.

This is my first experience with H and I did start out slow because I had no idea how strong it was. But working up to a gram and 1/2 is a ton isn't it?

Do you think what I got had nothing in it, or was is just not enough?

Damn, now I have to go through the trouble of finding another hook.

If H is really good, how do you know how much to do? Is it usually trial and error?
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Its simple, you got shit. You said you started low? You shot a gram!? That's not low. Low would be half a bag. 50-100mg or so. Tan/grey is a normal color for low grade heroin usually but you can't always tell by looking at it. Good stuff would be white but tar is also potent. More potent then powder except for the pure white stuff but that is usually on the East Coast. Find another hook-up, you got ripped off. A gram and a half would have some people dropping like flies. That's a lot of dope to. If you didn't feel it then it was probably fake.
 
obviously everyone has their own subjective view of all things, including drugs. Some people like dilaudid, some people like dope. Hell, some people even like injecting oxys. I think that when it comes down to the bottom line, all opiates are pretty much equal. I dont think anyone could tell the difference between a dope rush and a hydromorphone rush after doing both countless times. It is similar to how psychadelic abusers who had tripped more than 30 times on psilocybin, lsd, and mescaline could not tell any difference when given unmarked capsules. But, in my opinion, dope is better because it lasts so much longer. A dilaudid high is just a rush. A dope high, in my opinion, is a rush, a glow and a nod. And its SO much cheaper.
 
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I think that when it comes down to the bottom line, all opiates are pretty much equal. I dont think anyone could tell the difference between a dope rush and a hydromorphone rush after doing both countless times
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All opiates equal??? So what your saying is that codeine and propoxyphene are equal to heroin? No.

I've used opiates for almost 10 years and I can definitely tell the difference of a hydromorphone rush and heroin. Hydromorphone just has so much of a sharper rush and it doesn't last nearly as long. Heroin is more stable.
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
All opiates equal??? So what your saying is that codeine and propoxyphene are equal to heroin? No.
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Did you really think that I thought that Darvon was equal to heroin in terms of potency? When I said that all opiates were pretty much equal when it came down to it, I meant that all the objective effects are always the same (ie. filling opioid receptors). Thats why they are called "objective effects". Have you ever injected heroin and hydromorphone without knowing which was which and successfully discerned the two drugs? But, oh, how I do love that cool smooth sweeping rush of dillys.
 
I know what you mean. I think you might actually be more correct than I am. I, myself, would probably notice that it was dilaudid if i didnt know but just because it would either be dilly, dope, or rox and oxy feels just like dope to me. So i guess if i did a test with all 3 i could tell you which one was dilaudid easily because it would be the shot that "didnt fit" ya know what im sayin? But the original question was which is more euphoric and lets just leave that as unanswerable because it all depends... and if someone cant feel heroin it means the heroin is shit and you should be coppin it in patterson, NJ. Hahaha.
 
First I mentioned that my tolerance is very high. 16-20mgs of Dilaudid is a TON. If they gave you a shot at the ER for pain they would give you 2mg IV tops.

When I said I started slow, I didn't mean I started with a gram. I actually started with a pack which is 1/20 of a gram and kept moving up from there to the point that I shot a gram and then another half after no other amount worked.

I have already assumed that it must have been bad heroin but my question is did it have no heroin at all? I know if the heroin was as low as 10% then 1000mg(1gram) would only have 100mgs of heroin in it and with my tolerance that certainly would not be enough.

As far as not being able to tell one opiate from another, I'll bet a lifetimes worth or your favorite stuff that I can tell which is which with the exception of heroin. Shooting Oxy's is NOTHING like Dilaudid and even though I have never experience heroin, it to must be different or else people wouldn't be chiming in with their favorite.

I really want to know about the grey goo I said that floated on the top. With the previous grams I bought none of this had this. Has anyone seen this before?

I obtained this from a smaller town outside of Detroit. If the stuff I got was bunk do you think I should avoid this entire area because most everyone is selling the same stuff?

I had a hard enough time finding this connection as I did not want to go to the open market. I would think you would be more likely to get the good stuff from the same person, then just off someone on the street. Is this true?

Is Detroit the only place to get good heroin and if it is does it usually come off of the street?
 
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