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Heroin Heroin into morphine. Possible?

EtaipoFetish

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I heard a rumor that I know bluelighters can verify or not.

Lately here in the south, the heroin (black tar specifically) that people have been purchasing has been causing a "pins and needles" like effect that is very similar, if not identical to, IV morphine use.
It seems to be a rather frequent occurrence, which is why it has peeked my interest so much.
Very consistent dealers, now offering strange dope?
A friend of mine claims that in his own research, he has established that when diacetylmorphine ages to a certain point, it looses the diacetyl prefix and turns into straight morphine.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me but I am no chemist.

Can anybody touch on this? I have found nothing to back this up.
 
I think that heroin can degrade into morphine when it is in a solution for a while (hydrolysis), so if someone were to mix up a shot and forget about it for a few days, it would have started to degrade into morphine (also it would be unsafe to IV at that point due to bacteria growing in solution). It can also degrade due to the presence of moisture, but the process would be a lot slower than if it was in solution.

If you are getting black tar heroin, then there is some monoacetylmorphine in it, so perhaps these batches causing the "pins and needles" have a higher percentage of morphine than other batches do. BTH has diacetylmorphine as well as 6-MAM (6-monoacetylmorphine) and 3-MAM (3-monoacetylmorphine).
 
Very good point. What threw me off was the fact that it looks no different. Consistency, color, taste, smell, weight...
And these dudes are usually rather "on point" (no pun intended) with their shit. They run a very tight ship.
Thanks for the reply!
 
Very good point. What threw me off was the fact that it looks no different. Consistency, color, taste, smell, weight...
And these dudes are usually rather "on point" (no pun intended) with their shit. They run a very tight ship.
Thanks for the reply!

Here is the DEA intelligence brief so you can see the source of the info so you can see I'm not just pulling this BTH stuff out of my ass (no pun intended too).

"The DEA Southwest Laboratory (Vista, California) recently received a request for an analysis on a ten year old black tar heroin exhibit. The original seizure was made in late 1995 by U.S. Customs Service (USCS) personnel at the Nogales, Arizona Point of Entry, but was not analyzed at that time because the suspect escaped back into Mexico (he recently returned to the United States and was apprehended). The evidence originally consisted of a single package of suspected black tar heroin, wrapped in clear plastic and black electrical tape. USCS agents opened the package (in 1995) to conduct field testing (positive for heroin) and the evidence was re-packaged in two portions: Most of the sample was left in its original wrapping, but the small portion that was removed for field testing was re-packaged in a separate evidence envelope. Upon submission for analysis (in 2005), the two portions were analyzed as separate exhibits. The smaller portion (total net mass 6.4 grams (see Photo 7)) had a dry texture; analysis by GC/MS and GC/FID confirmed 22 percent heroin and 51 percent O6-monoacetyl-morphine (both calculated as the hydrochlorides). The larger portion (total net mass 204.7 grams) was still gummy and moist from being sealed in its original plastic packaging; analysis (same techniques) confirmed 4.1 percent heroin and 63 percent O6-monoacetylmorphine (again, both calculated as the hydrochlorides). This is believed to be the first analyses of ten year old black tar heroin exhibits by the Southwest Laboratory" (source).

So the "gummy" one with the moisture degraded a lot more than the dry one.
 
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