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Cider is made from apples, but the cheap stuff is just some mixture of chemicals and sweeteners
Personally, I prefer to turn water into wine
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Heroin in the UK doesn't seem right heroin feels trippy
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Personally, I prefer to turn water into wine
emkee_reinvented
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You should be able too, would love a sip.
Stopped drinking it as its felt more poisiouness then other Alcohol carriers. And nowadays its loaded with GlyFosaat.
RoundUp caused Parkinson is officially in France recognized as work related disease.
8 years with Parkinson and still like the Dutch, also a slave of the EU muppet show, its widely used in France.
So there no wine accept Bio rest is poison. Only the Belgium people, where the EU recides in Brussel said fuck it.
They dont allow its use, VELT has influence over there. https://velt.nu/
Its still illegal there like it was in the whole EU few years ago, until somehow it was reversed.
ehh money talks, Monsanto has factorys everywhere here, they rule the land. World.
emkee_reinvented
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Grow or pick Papaver Somniferrum, its legal to grow/ buy for decoration and the tasty black seeds.
No trouble with the law, not Heroine or even standardised. But at least not a mystery substance.
I would avoid those Russian roulette if you can before it hurting you or others around.
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Would you be interested in turning ibuprofen into oxymorfone? Asking for myself.
GulpingBatteryLiquid
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Could the trippiness be down to that Xylazine stuff that's showing up in the American "heroin"?
I was thinking that or maybe it is cut with some other dissociative like a PCP analogue or something. I don't think xylazine is a dissociative, just an anaesthetic, and haven't heard anything about it causing hallucinations but then again, i haven't heard much of anything about it's effects other than it just knocks you the fuck out. Who knows.
I've got a decently large amount of dried stems and pods sitting in my desk I forgot about. Maybe I'll put it to use some day....I tried it before with these and didn't get much more than a buzz. Tolerance too high I guess
A few reports where people KNEW they were getting one of the increasingly large number of etonitazene analogues suggest that the subjective effects can differ widely with some people saying they would vacillate between stimulation and stupor.
People are aware that the class was developed BEFORE fentanyl and yet they have never been used medically which does suggest that their were issues.
People are aware that the class was developed BEFORE fentanyl and yet they have never been used medically which does suggest that their were issues.
interesting..
There are hotlinks to Sci-Hub that covers all seven papers the researchers published on the class so there were a lot of different derivatives known. Ironically the MOST potent analogue isn't specifically controlled anywhere but hasn't. as far as I know, ever turned up on the market. I GUESS it's because the 1977 paper that provides a simplified synthetic pathway cannot be used... but it's also possible that the stuff is highly unpredictable.
But whatever the case, while fentanyl derivatives were never a success in Europe, there are people who actively seek the nitazenes so I strongly suspect that they WI:L become a staple of the regional market.
emkee_reinvented
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Ah oj and seawater into GHB
Agreed, I think they will get big in europe specifically because everyone is scared of fent here. I've seen people advertising nitazenes here with messages like "safer than fentanyl" etc. Crazy
If I can offer just ONE takeaway from my study of the nitazenes and reports from users - the stuff is HI|GHLY unpredictable.
One person will report how the stuff lasts 12+ hours and keeps them awake, another will report using the stuff and passing out for 8+ hours.
It's a CLASS of opioid and who knows exactly which one a dealer is selling? Certainly not the dealers. This class of opioids is a serial killer.
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BTW I think it's also worth noting that the prototype of the class (at least), etonitazene is a SUPERagonist. Don't confuse something being a superagonist and being super-potent. But in this case it happens to be the case.
The problem I foresee is that even high doses of methadone will not entirely prevent acute withdrawal symptoms.
The first documented case of clandestine production of etonitazene was a chemist at Morton-Thiokol. Apparently he dissolved etonitazene into dH2O and placed the mixture in a nasal spray. Witnesses said he was taking a hit every 20 minutes. He was caught and indeed provided with methadone. But for whatever reasons, he killed himself.
When it turned up in Russia in the mid 90s, it left a trail of dead but law enforcement were able to find the chemist. I sense that right now UNODC law only covers etonitazene and clonitrazene so Chinese labs will happily flood the market because in China the analogue are still legal.
The problem I foresee is that even high doses of methadone will not entirely prevent acute withdrawal symptoms.
The first documented case of clandestine production of etonitazene was a chemist at Morton-Thiokol. Apparently he dissolved etonitazene into dH2O and placed the mixture in a nasal spray. Witnesses said he was taking a hit every 20 minutes. He was caught and indeed provided with methadone. But for whatever reasons, he killed himself.
When it turned up in Russia in the mid 90s, it left a trail of dead but law enforcement were able to find the chemist. I sense that right now UNODC law only covers etonitazene and clonitrazene so Chinese labs will happily flood the market because in China the analogue are still legal.
What is the duration of this class? There are conflicting reports. I'm also curious as to ROA as the prototype, etonitazene is only supposed to have a short duration of action although it was trialled as a methadone alternative which MAY suggest longer duration (if less bioavailability) if consumed orally.
But as I have noted, it's a class of compounds, so who knows what's in the bag?
axe battler
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Did you know which one? Subjective effects better than H? Euphoria?
Its the yellow tablets you always see in the articles about nitz - maybe xyllazine? Theres a short 2-3 hour window of feeling good but then its like you've swallowed an alien and its trying to bust out through your stomach. Havnt vomited that hard in 20 years.
After about 3 hours you see this really fucking shit colour when you close your eyes - thats what I mean by trippy - just awful flashes of colour.
I suspect that there isn't a lot of crosstalk between consumers and producers. Back in the days of eunoiapharmacopia.com, people would write reports on new RCs and designs were revised to improve the products.
In the case of nitazenes, I suspect that Chinese manufacturers simply offer a compound and based on sales decide which ones to concentrate on.
In the case of nitazenes, I suspect that Chinese manufacturers simply offer a compound and based on sales decide which ones to concentrate on.
yeah, fuck colors, world was so much better when it was black and white.
Do you get flashes that kinda force your eyes closed? It is annoying consequence of jaw tension opioids tend to cause.