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heroin - I don't get it

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iameatingjam

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Tried it a couple months ago was extremely disappointed. I smoked and snorted about a quarter gram throughout the night. I was nauseous, dizzy and very very itchy. But that was it. I was nodding out like crazy, I could barely stay awake. All the signs of being high on heroin, right? Thats what I thought, but I had no euphoria, and other than no more than a mild relaxation I had no positive effects. Couldn't piss, couldn't walk, stomach hurt and it made me feel pissed off too.

I was with four other people. One was a regular user, the two had done it before and one was trying it for the first time with me. They all said it was really good stuff and they enjoyed it a lot.

I never have been a huge fan of opiates but I expected more from the king. I got more euphoria off oxycontin, from a hoot of opium even!

Might it be all the stimulants I've done?
 
People react differently to opiates and opioids. Some people love oxycodone but hate morphine. The "pins and needles," sedation and the like are loved by some and hated by others. It's all up to personal opinion I guess...
 
Kinda makes since that someone who likes stimulants would prefer more stimulating opiates I I guess. But really some people prefer apples and some prefer oranges. But as someone who has also done tons of stimulants, yeah, opiates are a different kind of euphoria all together. Not saying I don't enjoy them, but there's no love like your first love.
 
Like everyone has said personal preference. For me heroin beats the shit out of oxycodone.
 
this happened to me after 30mg OC. but i atleast got to nod and feel great for an hour before puking/itchiness/restlessness/muscle cramping for 12 hours
 
The only thing I can do is reiterate what others have said: everyone's body chemistry is different, maybe your body doesn't react positively to H. Or maybe your friends were experiencing placebo and it was just bunk?
 
Ime, heroin wasn't all that, so to speak. Mind you, I had a significant tolerance at the time, but I did nod out and all. It's just that heroin turned out only to be another opiate - surprise surprise, I know - simply a highly powerful narcotic. I think I was expecting some super drug or something - more than anything could live up to. Of course, it was definitely the most powerful opiate I've ever had, but after trying it a few times, it's no longer my idyllic paradigm of illegal drugs. That award goes to LSD.
 
Heroin is played up in the media and movies,etc. as being some kind of super opiate ,which it is very potent and the euphoria is very pleasurable if you are into that type of drug,if you are a stimulant person like me then it might be disappointing especially just snorting or smoking it, the only way to enjoy the full pleasures of heroin is through IV use in my opinion.I am a stimulant person myself and it's certainly a different rush or euphoria from stimulants as oppsed to heroin or opiates.I like the occasional blast of heroin,but I am a Stimulant type myself and i can understand your disappointment ,considering the hype surrounding heroin as being a drug of super great coolness as depicted in movies and stuff..It's just not my high of choice,heroin or any opiates altho they are very nice on occasion.
 
Heroin is pharmacologically just morphine with double potency. It metabolizes into morphine.

I like the occasional oxy or hydro, and I have been hospitalized with a morphine drip before. But opiates just are kind of boring IMO and the euphoria is more subtle than something like coke or mdma or mephedrone. And the WD symptoms are a bitch, I don't like how you can't just stop suddenly without feeling sick for several days and having horrible cravings.

I don't judge people who like them, and hell I will take an oxy once in awhile just to chill myself out, but I can certainly see why one could find H disappointing.

I do think a lot of the appeal is the painkiller effect, I know for me I have plenty of aches and pains and not having to deal with feeling any physical pain does make opiates more appealing.
 
girlygrrl said:
I do think a lot of the appeal is the painkiller effect, I know for me I have plenty of aches and pains and not having to deal with feeling any physical pain does make opiates more appealing.
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YES. Honestly heroin is the only drug - illegal or prescription - that completely eliminated my back pain. In fact, that was the most pronounced and pleasant effect for me.
 
Yeah, considering what a powerful drug Heroin is, it's amazing just how subjective the effects can sometimes be. My first experience of it was when a mate of mine shot me up with a small dose when I was 17 (and a self confessed speed freak at the time) and I loved it - it made me feel sooo 'groovy' (that's the best way I can think of to describe it) in a way that was similar, but at the same time completely the opposite to being on speed. Over the next 10 or so years I used it occassionaly (on the foil) and every time it made me feel great, but I also noticed the physical side effects becoming more apparent - especially the nausea. Then I had a break of several years. When I next tried it, as soon as I took the smoke down it felt like someone was squeezing my guts from the inside and twisting them into knots. It made me violently sick and gave me a banging headache and made me feel just generally shite. This happened every time I had it after then, but stupidly i persevered because I knew what it 'should' feel like. Looking back, it was like my body was rejecting it and trying to tell me to stop, otherwise I would be in deep shit - but I didn't listen and carried on using until I got a habit - which has continued for the last 15 years. So the moral of this story is, listen to your body - if you don't like it, don't carry on until you do, otherwise there will be no turning back..................
 
As an illustration of how differently H can affect different people..... After slamming 3/4 grain each, my best friend would be on the nod & drop his cigarette into his belly-button, while I'd be up manically rearranging my DVD collection. As time passed, I could tolerate doses that'd floor him, but I'd be happily still cleaning every single one of my guns.
Be careful with H.... what one can handle, might kill you.
 
I was addicted to IV morphine and cigarettes in a past life and I still occasionally get cravings to shoot up or smoke, even though in this lifetime I have never done H nor even tried tobacco.

Sorry for all those who don't believe in reincarnation. But I do have pretty strong memories and that's probably why I've avoided those specific drugs and not other ones.
 
That's similar to my first experience too, I disliked it and got dysphoric effects from it for ages. Especially if you're into stimulants, it's a very different sort of high, and if you're comparing it to a stimulant high you can be disappointed. Stimulants give you what I'd describe as a true 'high', whereas opiates give you a sense of absolute satisfaction and warm contendness. If you're used to stimulants, it can be subtle, and you have to kind of adjust your expectations.

A big thing for me though was the nausea, that really killed any enjoyment from opiates for me, but when I discovered anti histamines, I began to like them a lot more, unfortunately.
 
Oh.... I don't EVER suggest that anyone try it...... I had a MASSIVE opiate tolerance.....
But slamming a speedball of decent tar with some excellent shards about blew my mind. Next to the first time I candy-flipped, that was probably the highest I'd ever been.

Afterwards.... I realized how incredibly stupid that was, and went back to just taking my morphine and smoking the damn shards. LOL
 
Honestly, count yourself lucky that you don't like it.
Heroin is often a one way ticket to addiction, certainly not a place you want to be.
 
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