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Heroin Heroin DETOX!!

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Despaired

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Hi everyone, I've been using heroin now for the past few months now with no more then one day off. Lately I haven't had any days in between using bc the detox starts sooner and sooner. I'm trying to figure out the best, easiest, most pain-free way to detox if it's possible. If anyone can help or suggest other meds to help reduce the detox it would be of great help! I haven't been able to get my hands on suboxone or that would be my first choice of self detox.
 
^ like madog said taper, and try to get some clonidine it helps with sweats, chills, sleep, and a general sedative feeling.. if you can't find anyone who has some, it is very easy to get from a doctor since it has next to 0 abuse potential.
 
yeah.. unfortunately it's really hard to taper with short acting opiates like heroin, especially due to the fact that they are so fiendish. For right now, you might want to try and limit the ammount of dope you do in a day. I'm not sure what your habit is, but if you're like me, you're probably using more than is actually necessairy to stay well.

For instance, when I was heavy into heroin, I would use 1 to 1.5 bundles of IV dope a day, doing shots around the clock. Needless to say, I could have definately gotten by with probably half a bundle, but I wanted to get high as well. If you're an I.V drug user, I imagine you're probably doing a couple shots in a day. I would first try and limit the ammounts of shots you do. If you're using four, try and go down to three, than two.

The problem is that it's almost unheard of for someone to taper off of heroin. It happens of course, but the ammount of will power it would take, would be far more than impressive. If you can't get suboxone or methadone, try using Immodium (loperamide HCL). Another useful drug is Gabapentin, which will take care of many withdrawal symptoms and make kicking way easier.
 
with the immodium i would use it as directed to just help the diarrhea and it will help with stomach discomfort but im not in favor of those extremely high dose tapers using the drug.. i think it is good for what it is intended to do.
 
I actually I have some clonidine. Yea I would do a few shots a day but I've been trying to ween off. I brought my shots down to one bag a shot when typically I would use 3 to 4 bags in a shot multiple times a day. I'm at the point now that I'm just trying to not get too sick but I'm not sure if by doing that I'm just resetting my brain and the withdrawals. thank you guys
 
That's great that you have clonidine.. if i were you i would detox the fastest BUT most painful way.. just stop your heroin intake cold turkey and take .3mg clonidine 2-3x daily as needed and in 3 days you will be saying you're glad you went through hell and made it out.. than all you gotta worry about is relapsing.
 
Get some strong weed and a benzo like xanax. I know people will say you will switch your addiction to xanax but that isn't true, just have will power and you will stop the xanax after a few days. It will help a bunch combined with weed, you will be able to sleep well and eat as well as having a better mood.
 
OP, do you have access to Tramadol/Ultram/Ultracet? If you have clonidine youre half way home in terms of a solid detox kit but if you could access some tramadol along with loperamide (immodium) and either a benzo (like xanax or valium) for sleep then you will be set.

Also, if you could switch your ROA with the heroin that would also definitely help. Can you snort or smoke your dope? I never got as far as the needle but I know for a lot of people ditching the needle can be just as difficult as ditching the dope.
 
Thanks again everyone it's a great help and I'm feeling more optimistic detoxing. As far as changing my ROA, yes your right ditching the needle is just as hard as ditching the dope. When I detoxed from IV'in oxycodone a few months back I found myself wanting to IV anything just to use the needle. No other ROA gives the instant gratification like the needle. I'm so set to kick this habit now that I feel and hope the needle will be the least of my problems. I know I don't want to keep using cutting it cold turkey is what scares me the most!!
 
I'm working on the Xanax I have a few low dose Xanax and clonazepam that I can use sparingly for right now
 
Wasn't there a post on here that said using Tramadol to detox from other opiates was NOT a good idea?

And im in the same boat as you homie, I'm detoxing from a 2-3 bag a day sniffing habit. It's brutal, and I only have 4 clonidines left. I am going to have to score some subs or idk if i'll be able to make it.

Good luck! You got this!
 
Mass what day detox are you on now? Did you do it cold turkey? Keep a positive mind you only have to go through this once (of course if u plan on staying clean) that's what I keep in my mind! Good luck to you as well you alrdy started the process try to stick with it
 
Mass08 said:
Wasn't there a post on here that said using Tramadol to detox from other opiates was NOT a good idea?

And im in the same boat as you homie, I'm detoxing from a 2-3 bag a day sniffing habit. It's brutal, and I only have 4 clonidines left. I am going to have to score some subs or idk if i'll be able to make it.

Good luck! You got this!
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Some people on BL are just Tramadol haters. I don't mind ultram, but I stay away from the preparations that contain APAP (ultracet). Tramadol may not give a buzz (which may explain some of the hate) but it is a very effective detox tool IMO.

I would try cutting your clonidines in half and taking 1 in the AM and 1 before bed.

Good luck bro
 
Despaired, I'm on day two. This isn't my first time doing this sadly, the clonidines are leftover from when I got out of detox a couple months ago. Had 21 days clean but relapsed for 8 days straight and now i'm paying for it. This time the withdrawal is bad enough that I honestly don't think ill relapse again, hopefully thats just not wishful thinking :)

BiggDirty, it wasn't like they were hating on it for the debatable euphoria that it gives but that something about it specifically made it dangerous to take during opiate withdrawals, I believe it was related to the SNRI properties of it. You really think .05mg will help at all? I also have a bunch of 50mg doxepin's to help with insomnia, any ideas if these could also be of service?

-edit- Also despaired you should check out The Dark Side here on Bluelight. It was a big help for me to be honest and get professional help a little while ago and it's just a good place to find motivation and support. GL dude
 
Mass, I just got off H a couple weeks ago. Was snorting about .3g/day or doing ~150mg hydro a day and I really wish I had clonidine for the WDs. I used 100-200mg tramadol for a couple days, took a lot of loperamide (30-50mg a day) and some clonazepam at night though I didn't get much sleep the first few nights. Started feeling much better around day 6.

When shit got really uncomfortable I would drink a bottle of wine but always end up regretting it.
 
i don't want to downplay an addiction but a few months isn't that long... i woould definately advise against bupe or methadone... i would cold turkey, get some loperamide, maybe some codeine/apap if its really too tough, and some benzos (optional, there is a high risk of addiction there too)
 
A 2 week bupe taper, foloowed with colonidine and immodium possibly a few days (as MOST) of a low dose benzo, but mostly clondine and immodium to get through the paws after your bupe taper
 
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