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Heroin Heroin cut with benzos? Not high but passing out regularly and a close call.

trevic

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I made another thread earlier today, so sorry for the bombardment, but I just really need some input on something I've been experiencing.

This one guy has the best heroin I can get, it's near the premium stuff that used to be around years ago before the general quality, at least in the UK, dropped so much. This was true until my most recent bag.

Basically, I keep passing out. This is smoking it and I have a pretty decent tolerance. I can smoke sheet after sheet at this point and not really catch much of a high (and my technique is good, I'm not losing vapour). Recently, I just keep passing out, and it's after this guy's gear. I'm going to do exclusively some other stuff I have for a couple of days and see if this is just something weird going on with me or something -- I have no idea what that would be though. I previously was pretty sleep-deprived and chalked it up to that, but that is no longer the case.

For whatever reason, there's a rumour that this guy cuts larger orders with benzos. I'm in the process of digging deeper to see if anyone tested and found that with a wedinos sample or something but multiple people have echoed this. I also did a urine drug test last week that came up positive for benzos. I am unsure when I last used benzos but it was atleast 20 days - probably over a month and it would of been diazepam. I am not a regular user of benzos at all, I use them very, very irregularly. I only use them when I've done too much pregab, and a couple of times so I could smoke weed without the anxiety that normally stops me from doing it (xanax those times). I have not done that for probably a couple of months though. I know diazepam can be detected in urine after a decent while, but was still surprised to see it come up.

This gear makes me incredibly sleepy but again, not really "high" in the sense that there is no euphoria or anything. With my tolerance, just smoking, I don't really expect there to be, but I also don't expect there to be that sleepiness. I have a pulse oximeter and my oxygen saturation is good on it, but I'm shaking my head trying to wake myself up yet without any of the good feelings. Previously, my problem was staying up for well over 24 hours on heroin often but now I can barely stay awake for a few hours, though I feel fine when I'm walking about doing things.

Anyway, I decided to put that bag to the side and move to one from someone else that is usually good but not as good as I'm used to from the first vendor (or used to be). Smoked a sheet and actually felt pretty nice, only a very mild high but was pleased to have any high -- this was two hours after smoking 230mg of the sleepy stuff which I smoked after waking up from passing out. Got partway through a second sheet and started nodding, then passed out. Woke up gasping for breath, sats were in the 80's (and was probably lower before as I was breathing heavily while getting it and waiting for a reading). Perhaps if that other guys' stuff is laced with benzos then some decent gear on top was just too much? No nausea or anything, though. Actually felt fine once I got past the panic/ enough time passed that I knew I was most likely out of the danger zone.

What's going on? I have not had an issue with either of these vendors previously and tbh since I've got a decent tolerance, and I'm only smoking, I do kind of hoover the sheets down. Is heroin laced with benzos a common thing these days? It hadn't even occurred to me before, or could it be something else? Can benzos even be smoked? I ordered bloody 14 grams off this guy and obviously not using isn't really an option at the moment. I'm just trying to get through to next month when I'll be getting on maintenance, I'd rather not die in the meantime.

The only cuts I've really worried about is fent and zines but they wouldn't produce this weird sedative but nothing else effect right? I'd be too high ,not just feeling stable but super tired? I'm gonna use more cautiously now but I'm just really confused by this, I've never experienced something like this with heroin before.

Can you buy strips to test for benzos? I don't think that's a thing right?
 
You can definitely test benzodope. Don't be certain it will pop, even if it is laced. Lots of things with different structures bind to gaba receptors, but there are strips for it. Just look up benzo test strips and look for one that includes the most drugs to test for. Like rcs and such. Don't buy from dosetest
 
Really? I found one but it was like 100 for one strip. I spoke to my drug worker and they said they’d b be happy to send to wenidos for testing for me so i think ill do that and see, just a shame it’ll take a fair while to get the results.

I’m worried though,that even aside from the risks inherent in this combo (especially since I’m not benzo tolerant). I’m worried about picking up a physical dependency on benzos too…. It’s truly the last thing I need. Is unexpected benzo withdrawal something you’ve ever heard of when someone is started on maintainance but has no knowing history of benzo abuse?

I can try to space that stuff out a bit with other bags but the vast majority of what I have is that tranq stuff. If there is Diaz in if it’s likely to be in relatively small amounts tho I’d imagine? If runs really nice and clean with low heat which I don’t imagine would happen if it was very heavily benzo cut?

I just know that a different batch of some stuff he had a few months ago tested positive for Diaz as major on wendinos but last in the list and I guess it’s ordered by concentration?

God damn I fucking hate myself for getting back on this poison.

Thank you for getting back me 🙏.
 
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You can definitely test benzodope. Don't be certain it will pop, even if it is laced. Lots of things with different structures bind to gaba receptors, but there are strips for it. Just look up benzo test strips and look for one that includes the most drugs to test for. Like rcs and such. Don't buy from dosetest
Sorry, I always forget to reply. My post above was supposed to be a reply.
 
Fentanyl?? Tranq? Sorry if this was mentioned OP but if not, you may have some fent cut in there.
It would explain no euphoria and the passing out for damn sure or possibly he's cutting with that or Tranq for more profit to get by on holidays?
 
Fentanyl?? Tranq? Sorry if this was mentioned OP but if not, you may have some fent cut in there.
It would explain no euphoria and the passing out for damn sure or possibly he's cutting with that or Tranq for more profit to get by on holidays?
Perhaps yeah, benzo wouldn’t have been my first guess except it’s benzo like in the absence of anything but sedation + there’s semi reliable evidence his stuff tested positive for diazepam several months ago + me coming up positive on a piss test for benzos. I know diazepam stays for a long time in your system but I used I think 20mg the last time and it was atleast 3 weeks before that test, possibly over a month. I know in chronic users they can test positive a longer time after but I hardly use benzos so that is a big part of what makes me think it might be that. Plus the sedative effect is there but it’s not like it zombifies me, I pass out when I’m relaxed and settled laying down or sitting on the couch but can talk and do things and you wouldn’t really know. Smoking a different guys stuff today tho and no passing out, no out of proportion to the high sedation, however it is overall weaker in terms of the opiate side too.

Tbh I’m happy to smoke it lightly to push back w/d and leave it there, I suppose it’s good practice for me about to go on maintainance which I plan to take seriously (atleast at getting off opiates). The idea of developing an additional benzo dependence scares me but I was wondering if you guys often hear about people going on maintainance just to then w/d from benzos/xylaxine/ whatever additional sedative since some form of that is such a common cut now.

I’ve got enough assorted gram bags to last me 4 days so I’m thinking I’ll do that and see if I encounter any unusual withdrawal indicative of benzos or whatever. I’ve been having bits of confusion and fuzzy memory here and there beyond this most recent passing out on the first bigger bag I got from him which is causing what I’m talking about, but to an extent I kinda expect that with H, this passing out is so bizzare though. Part of me wants to think the other two bags I have of his will be better but I ordered close together so it’s got to be the same batch.
 
Keep us posted and be careful buddy maybe grab a fentanyl test strip as well.

"but I was wondering if you guys often hear about people going on maintainance just to then w/d from benzos/xylaxine/ whatever "

I've heard of folks trying the bernese method to transition from fentanyl addiction to suboxone..which apparently is a hell ride. But sorry I'm not too sure as far as being on maintenance and then dealing with benzo WD, maybe try the search here and you might find something.

But yeah it wouldn't surprise me being that most (including myself) fall into the trap of benzo habit after kicking opiates so I wouldn't say it's uncommon but your situation is different and more specific.
 
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Yeah h, fent and bromazolam is a def killer. Been lot of reports in PA some time ago.
Y'all be safe as possible, please.
Thanks
P
 
Well I ended up with that same weirdly intense sedation later in the day with some other gear. I don’t get it, I didn’t feel it earlier in the day. Maybe the cut hangs around longer and builds as I smoke more through the day. I went months using without this issue tho yet suddenly two different vendors gear is affecting me like this.

I’ve ordered some test strips for fent, nitazines, and xylazine from exchange supplies so I can atleast rule those out (or know it’s in it) but it’s gonna take awhile to come cause of Christmas.

If I send to wenidos myself, anyone have any experience with this? Can I send multiple samples? Can I just put a bit in tin foil or something and wrap it up? The instructions on their site are sort of confusing. I know I won’t get the results for awhile but atleast I could post the reference number on the forum of the market I use (I buy off the dn) and warn some people.
 
I made another thread earlier today, so sorry for the bombardment, but I just really need some input on something I've been experiencing.

This one guy has the best heroin I can get, it's near the premium stuff that used to be around years ago before the general quality, at least in the UK, dropped so much. This was true until my most recent bag.

Basically, I keep passing out. This is smoking it and I have a pretty decent tolerance. I can smoke sheet after sheet at this point and not really catch much of a high (and my technique is good, I'm not losing vapour). Recently, I just keep passing out, and it's after this guy's gear. I'm going to do exclusively some other stuff I have for a couple of days and see if this is just something weird going on with me or something -- I have no idea what that would be though. I previously was pretty sleep-deprived and chalked it up to that, but that is no longer the case.

For whatever reason, there's a rumour that this guy cuts larger orders with benzos. I'm in the process of digging deeper to see if anyone tested and found that with a wedinos sample or something but multiple people have echoed this. I also did a urine drug test last week that came up positive for benzos. I am unsure when I last used benzos but it was atleast 20 days - probably over a month and it would of been diazepam. I am not a regular user of benzos at all, I use them very, very irregularly. I only use them when I've done too much pregab, and a couple of times so I could smoke weed without the anxiety that normally stops me from doing it (xanax those times). I have not done that for probably a couple of months though. I know diazepam can be detected in urine after a decent while, but was still surprised to see it come up.

This gear makes me incredibly sleepy but again, not really "high" in the sense that there is no euphoria or anything. With my tolerance, just smoking, I don't really expect there to be, but I also don't expect there to be that sleepiness. I have a pulse oximeter and my oxygen saturation is good on it, but I'm shaking my head trying to wake myself up yet without any of the good feelings. Previously, my problem was staying up for well over 24 hours on heroin often but now I can barely stay awake for a few hours, though I feel fine when I'm walking about doing things.

Anyway, I decided to put that bag to the side and move to one from someone else that is usually good but not as good as I'm used to from the first vendor (or used to be). Smoked a sheet and actually felt pretty nice, only a very mild high but was pleased to have any high -- this was two hours after smoking 230mg of the sleepy stuff which I smoked after waking up from passing out. Got partway through a second sheet and started nodding, then passed out. Woke up gasping for breath, sats were in the 80's (and was probably lower before as I was breathing heavily while getting it and waiting for a reading). Perhaps if that other guys' stuff is laced with benzos then some decent gear on top was just too much? No nausea or anything, though. Actually felt fine once I got past the panic/ enough time passed that I knew I was most likely out of the danger zone.

What's going on? I have not had an issue with either of these vendors previously and tbh since I've got a decent tolerance, and I'm only smoking, I do kind of hoover the sheets down. Is heroin laced with benzos a common thing these days? It hadn't even occurred to me before, or could it be something else? Can benzos even be smoked? I ordered bloody 14 grams off this guy and obviously not using isn't really an option at the moment. I'm just trying to get through to next month when I'll be getting on maintenance, I'd rather not die in the meantime.

The only cuts I've really worried about is fent and zines but they wouldn't produce this weird sedative but nothing else effect right? I'd be too high ,not just feeling stable but super tired? I'm gonna use more cautiously now but I'm just really confused by this, I've never experienced something like this with heroin before.

Can you buy strips to test for benzos? I don't think that's a thing right?
So I had a similar problem. I got in trouble once bc my guy had stuff cut with benzos. My doc at the methadone clinic at the time told me how careful I needed to be bc I tested positive for benzo and that lots of benzos were cut with fent. I said "oh sorry no I'm not doing benzos cut with fent but my guy got fent cut with benzos" she looked at me like I was crazy. I might be. The test affirmed my suspicion it was benzos because whenever I take benzos I yawn a lot and my eyes water like crazy. No one sells H near me anymore you can really only get fent unless you order from Europe off the internet. I've adjusted and it still gets me high but I used to mess with fent years before it became a scourge and a girl I would run with that had RA used to get the suckers. Hell a friend had to save me at a show once when I went into a porter John to do some blow and accidentally nod out with a sucker in my mouth he had to rip the door open and pull the sucker out. I'm pretty sure that just like heroin your brain turns fent into morphine. Anyways in the last 6-12 months stuff with xylazine started showing up around here and I stay away from it. I hate it. Where with benzos I can tell what's going on, with xylazine (tranq) it just like my consciousness instantly turns off. I go from fully awake to ptfo in seconds. I can also tell it's xylazine because when I wake up (sometimes on the floor in whatever mess I was carrying) my mouth is incredibly dry and my thirst in unquenchable. I ended a 8 year relationship with a plug over the stuff in a physical fight. Keep that shit away from me. It may be the end game of my addiction bc if that's what's going to be going around I really want nothing to do with it. Be safe out there.
 
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