Heroin & Crack - throwing up

[thenozzle]

My friend has smoked H before, and felt fine, didn't throw up or anything. He also has smoked crack before, and same thing, felt fine, never thrown up at all, even on big hits.
However, one time he decided to smoke some H, and then smoke crack afterwards. Every single time he hit the crack (while being high on H) he threw up. He said it wasn't unpleasant, like when you vomit after drinking too much, just kinda 'bleh...okay im back whats up' And he didnt vomit any other times, only immediately after hitting the crack.

Has anyone experienced this before, or can you explain it?

 

[1038947]

Never experienced it. I was accustomed to go for a speedball at least once a day when I lived in Copenhagen, but I never threw up. That was IV however...

 

[nAON]

Well, opiates are notorious for their histamine nausea, and i've sometimes felt a bit sick when rushing on stims, so I can see how together it could make him vomit.

Recommend picking up some antihistamines OTC (benadryl, zyrtec, etc., they're marketed as allergy or travel sickness meds), take em before you do any drugs and it should take care of any sickness or nausea.

 

[forbiddenlife5]

That's not really shocking I have a friend both and was throwing up several times everyday from mixing the two it's mainly the reaction from the crack being a stimulant so it increases your heart rate etc and your already on heroin too your lucky it's only just throwing up and not oding

 

[thenozzle]

Alright, it just seemed weird so i wanted to see if anyone else experienced this as well.
As far as ODing, not a problem since it was only a very small amount of H (like if you only smoked half a bowl of weed between 2 ppl kinda small)
and smoked it, not shot it.

 

[Ecstuhcy]

Heroin+Crack don't mix?

 

[Sepher]

^ They mix perfectly well if you like that sort of thing.

TheNozzle, both would tend to make you puke anyways if you're not used to them or do a big enough hit. Might well be ok with them on their own but mix them and when the crack rush hits it pushes you over the edge, that's all. Little tip: if the rush turns to nausea and you're sweating with your stomach flipping, get to a sink and run plenty of cold water over your wrists, or soak a cloth for a cold compress to the base of the skull / back of the neck. You'll feel better almost immediately. Can stop the feeling you're gonna puke in its tracks.

 

[ms4104]

Heroin+Crack don't mix?

Yes they do like bread and butter or macaroni and cheese.

 

[thenozzle]

Yes they do like bread and butter or macaroni and cheese.

Hahaha. I think the best way is to do the bread, then when the comedown starts to hit and youre fiending and cant sleep, have some butter. Then you get the feeling of bread on its own, and butter on its own, instead of the 'Buttered Toast' effect. To each his own, though. lol

 

[Violenza666]

Anything can make you feel nausea even if you have done it before. Maybe you ate something bad, you're stomach felt bad... Maybe it was the product. There is no way to determine.... Heroin makes alot of people feel nausea... I have never experienced the nausea but I have seen people projectile vomit and smile about it.. lol

In the spirit of harm reduction... the mixture is very dangerous because the cocaine doesn't last as long as the smack. So if you did too much H nausea would be the worst of your worries.

 

[The Rock Monster]

crack and heroin are known to make u throw up

 

[Lord Armagoth]

never puked on the two and have done both many a time in large doses, dangerouse mix is an understatment, ive seen people drop like flies on good dope and crack. be careful

 

[ugly]

crack and heroin are known to make u throw up

Its so good to have this information here. I wish this had been posted a few years back, when I learned this the hard way. It might have been in a post that I missed but still... I thought my oxycontin would be good after a stim high. I threw up. I wouldn't ever do that again and wish I had known.

Harm reduction must include keeping space monkeys like us from throwing up. So don't ruin your h stone with crack. Or visa versa.

 

[thenozzle]

Well the two together are more dangerous than either on their own, but H after the crack eases the comedown. Thats the only upside though. Just seemed odd it only happened immediately after a crack hit,but not in between or when they are used only on their own.

But yeah, stims and downers are opposites, so one has to be very cautious when used together. There are countless people(and celebrities) who have died from this combo.

 

[thenozzle]

Okay so, some of you have said that heroin with crack just could be a bad combo. But my question is, how long does the crack remain in your system after you take that last hit? If you were to, say, have a night's session of smoking rock, and then smoke H diuring the comedown afterwards, would they still interact?
Heroins effects last a couple hours at least, so if that comes first, then obviously it would be a combo to smoke crack subsequently. But how long after the last hit of crack would one need to wait until its no longer active in your body?

 

[effie]

Well the two together are more dangerous than either on their own, but H after the crack eases the comedown. Thats the only upside though. Just seemed odd it only happened immediately after a crack hit,but not in between or when they are used only on their own.

But yeah, stims and downers are opposites, so one has to be very cautious when used together. There are countless people(and celebrities) who have died from this combo.

There is no intrinsic danger in taking an upper and a downer together - it's a myth that they somehow work against each other or confuse the body. The danger lies in one masking the other then leading to an overdose when it wears off (for example taking too much heroin because the crack masks it, then ODing). It is a very dangerous combination, you are quite right, but not in the way a lot of people think.

Okay so, some of you have said that heroin with crack just could be a bad combo. But my question is, how long does the crack remain in your system after you take that last hit? If you were to, say, have a night's session of smoking rock, and then smoke H diuring the comedown afterwards, would they still interact?
Heroins effects last a couple hours at least, so if that comes first, then obviously it would be a combo to smoke crack subsequently. But how long after the last hit of crack would one need to wait until its no longer active in your body?

Cocaine has a half life of an hour so you'd need to wait several hours at least if you want most of it to be gone. "No longer active" is an interesting concept, it depends on the half life and on the blood-concentration needed to exert significant effects.. it's not something we can give you an exact answer to (well, I can't anyway) but in terms of OD risk, I would wait until you can't feel any stimulation at all from the crack. In terms of vomiting I am not sure but I would imagine the same applies. If in doubt, go carefully and slowly.