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Heroin - 5 bags - scary hallucinotory OD - plugged

lee harvey

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I quit smack about 3 months ago - as in being hooked on it. So last night after about 3 months clean I decided to have one single very nice big blast.

Mind you I have had high doses before and I was prepared for the intensity of it - at least I thought I was.

So I loaded up the needless syringe with what about 5 bags and plugged it. The comeup was INTENSE and the euphoria was amazing, but after about 2 minutes, I knew I had too much because I was still going higher and higher and feeling like I was going to pass out.

That scared the piss out of me and I stood up and paced back and forth for a few minutes to try to shake it off and get to a place where I could enjoy it. Then I sat down for a second and instantly nodded off into a hellish hallucination where a I was driving my car up a hill in the summertime somewhere and a truck was in the wrong lane and crashed right into me - I yelled and jumped right up out of my chair. I could barely stand up straight. My voice was almost non existant, I couldn't really talk and I had to keep forcing myself to breath cuz I noticed many times that I stopped breathing and didn't even notice it.

I was having both auditory and visual hallucinations at this point, in every dark corner I saw a face or spiders or bugs crawling around. One time in a dark corner I noticed that there was a big coil of wires all wrapped in a circle, I went over to pick it up and it was not actually there. Any time I stood still for more then a few seconds my mind woud instantly zone into a strange awake dream where all these strange things from my subconscious would emerge, I was talking to people that weren't there, I saw visions of myself in a hospital bed, spiders dropping down on lines from the ceiling, I thought I was at work, it was like the floodgates to my subconscious were wide open. I was sinking deeper and deeper into passing out which scared the fuck out of me.At this point I was gripped with paranoia and was not feeling the precious euphoria I sought. I thought that if I passed out, I would really stop breathing.

So I stumbled up the steps to the garage where I grabbed 3 cans of coke and chugged all three in like 2 minutes. Amazingly the caffeine had no effect on me and I was still sinking deeper down in delierous thinking and I started thinking I was in different places. I remember that if I could find something to focus on, I could stay alert and in reality. So I tried to type on my keyboard but my fingers would take forever to hit just one key, and I couldn't hit the right keys, and I would completely lose my train of thought and start to stumble back down into unconsciousness.

I knew that in cases where you know you've had too much smack, you should never fall asleep so I was trying to stay consciouss. Things got so bad that I was vomiting in the sink but I was hallucinating that I was vomiting blood.

I was seriously contemplating calling 911 because if I stopped pacing back and forth and making myself breath for even 1 second I was instantly sinking into unconsciousness and possibly to my death. I seriously think that if I would have just laid back and passed out I would have died.

I kept moving around and stumbled up the steps again and it took me like 5 minutes to pour myself a glass of lemonade. I thought the sugar and wter would be good for me. So I took the whole pitcher of lemonade and turned on some music really loud to keep me awake. I was in the saddest shape I've ever seen.

I managed to keep myself together and came out of it after about an hour that seemed like 5 hours.

I have had more then 1 good friend die from an OD and that episode was enough to scare me straight so I finally flushed all the rest of the dope down the toilet.

I could have just chalked it up as a simple OD and be proud that I played it out smart and next time just don't do so much but I'm sick of this game and I have too much to live for. That was way too fucking close of a call.

I'm a big boy, about 210lbs, and I think that dose would have pretty instantly killed anybody 150lbs or less. All I can say is that I hope I finally learned my lesson this time.
 
lee harvey said:
I quit smack about 3 months ago - as in being hooked on it. So last night after about 3 months clean I decided to have one single very nice big blast.

were you genuinely trying to stop using heroin permanently, or just avoiding it for a while to lower your tolerance levels?
 
^ heroin OD's fucking suck.
it instantly turns into terror when you cross a certain line. glad you didn't shoot all five of the bags at once.
take care
 
wow, glad u came outta that ok lee harvey, and i bet it felt like shit coming down from it again
i admire ur strength, 3 months is realllllly good, and remember how scared u were then wen u feel like doing H again - u can do it!
i cud neva imagine being strong enuff 2 flush a drug stash like that, thats sum tough shit
 
^It's not tough shit when you are freaking out on such a scale. I think when someone is freaking out and thinking they are dying, they get this sudden urge to flush the drugs or get rid of them instantly, because maybe something deep down inside them tells them that if there really is a God, it will see how keen you are to get out of the situation and survive and not make the same mistake again. Think of it like showing God how desperate you are to get that one more chance.

I thought you of all people (I've read a few of your posts) would know better than to have so much Heroin after abstaining from Heroin for 3 months, knowing your tolerance would have been practically non-existant at this point. I really do hope you learned something from this scare, but it's good to see you come out O.K.

One question: Did you experience any intense anxiety when all of this was happening? Because, when I just recently (a couple of months ago) insufflated my first line of Heroin in 10-11 months, a similar thing happened, but without the hallucinations. I think I reported it somewhere on Bluelight. It's like I had to really struggle to retain my breaths as well, but yea... I think if you don't give in and REALLY fight the urge to black out, then to a certain extent it really is possible to defeat an overdose.

Also, I have a funny feeling that this might have been scopolamine poisining, because I remember another time when I was borderline overdosing, I was nodding out hard on the couch and found the experience rather pleasurable and actually got really pissed at my ex for waking me up every five-ten minutes because she said my breathing went all funny.
Ohh, in case anyone was wondering, scopolamine is an anti-histamine, which in high enough dosages has deleriant effects, and is a very common adulterant found in Heroin.

So I'd imagine rather pure Heroin, the overdose wouldn't be so unpleasant?
 
Mean Girl said:
were you genuinely trying to stop using heroin permanently?
I was at the time, but you know how time can soften the memory of withdrawal and being in detox for 5 days. I'm still trying to cheat the system because I'm an addict that still wants to believe he isn't. This was like a near-death experience for me. All I can say is I hope I've finally learned.
 
Diacetylus: You're right, it's lot easier to dump 200 dollars worth of dope down the sink when you're in the middle of a horriying OD. In my mind the "God" that you talk about seeing my good deed was actually me. I felt way better to know that that shit was out of my reach. And I said to myself; "OK, that's the first good, guilt-free thing I've done to escape drugs and a layer of evil seemed to lift from my troubled mind. A first step, is better then no step, or holding on to what I thought was a substance of pure evil. There was a major conflict in my mind when I threw it out, it was totally symbollic to myself that I can eventually overcome the brain-drain of always thinking I'll never be happy without a little dope here and there. I went back and forth and finally I saw the faces of my kids and my wife and it was like there was a choice to be made; them or dope, and it was a great pain and plasure all at the same time to dump it.

This whole thing was stupid of me. I get drug tested and I had 4 days off from work so I thought to myself, OK one big blast and then I got 3 days to get it out of my system. Another one of my experiments - failed.

Did you experience any intense anxiety when all of this was happening?
Hell yeah, I was shaking with adrenelin and it was the only think that kept my heart pumping. And I did think to myself that this shit might have been adulterated but this is the same stuff I've gotten from the same guy for year. I believe it was a little more pure this time. I did something stupid no doubt. It was like I was so hungry after a 3 month break, it was like I hadn't eaten in a week and I just shoved as much food down my throat as I could all at once. This is how most OD's occur. Tolerance drops and you go back to the same dose you did before. Stupid.

It's a bad thing to ignore the wisdom you've gained over 20 years of drug abuse.
 
^ lol.
yeah my mistake.

EDIT: actually it's not:) i meant shooting, not plugging.
so i meant it was good he didn't IV all five in stead of pluggin' em
 
How effective is plugging them? Is it better than snorting?


Luckily that didn't end up being too much Lee. After reading what you went through when you were WDing, maybe it's for the best that you had a bad experience and flushed the other half. Glad you made it through. :)
 
Carl Landrover said:
How effective is plugging them? Is it better than snorting?
Far better, absorbtion is around 90-95% and you get a rush. snorting is only around 70% absorbtion. I'm a plugging master.

1. Use HOT water - not scalding - but hot
2. Use one of the needless syringes you get from infant tylenol - they work the best and hold the most
3. Lubricate the syringe and go about 3 inches in - this will prevent leakage
4. Plug an additional 2 to 4 ml's of warm water after the initial, it will contact more surface area and you will get better and faster absorbtion.

5. Don't be stupid like me.
 
-=navel=- said:
^ heroin OD's fucking suck.
it instantly turns into terror when you cross a certain line. glad you didn't shoot all five of the bags at once.
take care
i know man. it's like some of the worst anxiety i've ever had..really dulision thinking to the max. i could really do without that.
 
DexterMeth said:
it's like some of the worst anxiety i've ever had..really dulision thinking to the max. i could really do without that.
Yeah I'd say half the OD was the intense delusion, I mean I was totally hallucinating like I was on a psychadelic. Freeking out, seeing my own death, seeing myself in a body bag, I'm surprised my heart didn't palpitate, all that just to stay above water, just to stay conscious. Looking back on it now the memory is becoming dangerously soft, like that was a different person.
 
Wow, tough shit. I've had doses where I pass out 2 minutes after the shot and not realize it until I come to hours later. What your experience must have been - the hallucinations and such - must be like as if I stayed awake, plus a few more bags.

With that realization, I simply cannot imagine how strong you must be, and how well you must know heroin. After reading this story, I feel like just a little kid who's only seen the top layer of heroin, the fun side that you see on the outside like the front of a cereal box. I feel like some dumb kid going into the military thinking it will be all fun and games and your some veteran who's gone through Vietnam. I truly do not know heroin at all.

The strange thing is, is that I've played with the needle for over two years, and over a year with heroin. Despite being a successfuly chipper, having used a little over 200 times and still never used regularly long enough to ever catch a slight increase in tolerance, this story brings a strange realization to my life. I know I am content in my usage, that I have recognized a plateau for enjoyment rather than seeking to get as high as possible, that with my newbie tolerance its harder to OD = but still, this report makes me really examine my life.

I do not believe this will cause me to stop. I don't know exactly the impact it may bring. It has shed a new light onto heroin, and definately made me realize where I am in the whole run of things.

Onto a lighter note, I know a guy who shot 4 bags of some dope that was definately worth more than 6 bags of the normal Baltimore dope. It was the strongest dope I have ever seen in my life. While it wasn't me who died for a few minutes in someone's car, it was definately pretty nerve-wrecking to see that happen to someone. He puts the needle in, I turn my head to pull out onto the road, and I hear a thud and see him slumped from the chair to the ground.

Great read. I talked to lee harvey the night he OD'd, this story is all true and so much more.
 
^Man, I can only faintly remember nodding in and out of that AIM conversation, I think it was after the worst was over but I still was nodding out right in the middle of keystrokes and having to make trips back and forth to throw up in the sink.

Good to hear my experience gave you a healthier appreciation for heroin. At least something good came out of it. If nothing else one should be very careful about passing out after a strong shot with nobody else around to monitor your vitals.
 
My tolerance is up to about 5 bags right now actually. Plugged heroin is a very different high than IV, IMO. I don't really enjoy it as much.
 
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