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Henry The 1/8th: version - 2.8 grams

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I don't understand why they'd bother to import weed when it can be (& is, albeit often to shite standard when done commercially) grown here easily. That plus the actual hassle of importing a large quantity of a relatively bulky & smelly product, think about £100k worth of weed compared to £100k worth of cocaine, would make me not even attempt it if I was someone in that position. They'd be far better investing their time & money on a decent grow op in the UK & actually produce stuff to Amsterdam standards rather than importing the high-grade shit.

I can't figure it out myself either... The sheer amount of space and stink! Why don't they just import the guy who grows it and sets it up? It's not like it's that much easier to grow on an industrial scale over in the Netherlands. They're so pissed off with their rep for it that they are cracking down harder than we are. Dutch 'criminals' are just a cut above the rest when it comes to everything though to be fair. To be honest though this country is basically just a sieve. The Dutch have obviously cracked getting whatever they want through somehow, so they're just pushing any old product they have to hand in on top of the decent coke and mdma cus they can.
 
Why don't they just import the guy who grows it and sets it up?

Good point.

I think you might be right about them just being able to get whatever they want through customs though. I'd never really thought about it before but think about the amount of MD/pills that must be getting imported. When you consider how much coke is cut up after it's been imported there must be about the same amount of MDMA coming into the country as there is cocaine, but you very very rarely hear of a large MDMA bust.
 
Good point.

I think you might be right about them just being able to get whatever they want through customs though. I'd never really thought about it before but think about the amount of MD/pills that must be getting imported. When you consider how much coke is cut up after it's been imported there must be about the same amount of MDMA coming into the country as there is cocaine, but you very very rarely hear of a large MDMA bust.

They seem to be seizing more mdma than coke up your ways:
http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/p...m-increase-in-disruptive-operations-1-2419310
 
Lol at their new tactics

“For example, if a courier was leaving with £60,000, in the past, when success was measured by the amount of drugs seized, the temptation was to wait to get our hands on the drugs. Now the focus is on
disruption and seizing the cash.

“Senior investigating officers are forced to think about what impact that would have on the crime group – 99 times out of 100, we would go for the cash.”

When the net closes in on a crime boss, instead of carrying out covert operations, local uniformed officers are encouraged to make regular contact, checking their car is taxed and insured, for instance, in an effort to hassle and frustrate.

Basically, they're skint & can't afford to do the job properly. Good news haha.

The first part is a load of nonsense. Surely they don't believe that actually works? Criminal gang has 60k to buy drugs, the police take the 60k but the 60k worth of drugs are still there waiting to be bought. What do the criminal gang do? Raise that 60k asap, probably rob something, or just take another 60k out of their massive stash of money lol.
 
All the best weed I've ever smoked has been UK grown, and from UK, or US genetics, bred from very old landrace strains. I'm not talking about commercial scale UK grows, just people who grow their own, and sell a bit of surplus to, ahem, "cover their costs" =D

I've been to A'dam a few times and never had any commercially grown there of any particularly great quality. A Dutch friend grows some superb hazes, but it's been a while...his strains are old African, South American based genetics, and blow any other Dutch weed (that I've smoked) out of the water...

Every time I've been to the Dam I've taken my own bubble hash with me, cos fuck paying their prices for ISO/bubble.
 
Lol at their new tactics



Basically, they're skint & can't afford to do the job properly. Good news haha.

The first part is a load of nonsense. Surely they don't believe that actually works? Criminal gang has 60k to buy drugs, the police take the 60k but the 60k worth of drugs are still there waiting to be bought. What do the criminal gang do? Raise that 60k asap, probably rob something, or just take another 60k out of their massive stash of money lol.

So err, what we've been doing is making a right nuissance of ourselves. Proper pissing off organised criminals by doing really petty shit. That seems to have shown them whose boss. If only the Columbians had worked out that checking road tax would have made Pablo fuck off to another country to deal huh.

If you caught the cash at the right moment that could cause some serious trouble... If one lot ticked it, sold it, then were about to pay off the guy they'd ticked it from and the police caught them, that's them up shit creek. I just hope they aren't going the way of America where they deliberately let criminals get as big as possible before they take everything they have to finance themselves like the DEA do.
 
All the best weed I've ever smoked has been UK grown, and from UK, or US genetics, bred from very old landrace strains. I'm not talking about commercial scale UK grows, just people who grow their own, and sell a bit of surplus to, ahem, "cover their costs" =D

I've been to A'dam a few times and never had any commercially grown there of any particularly great quality. A Dutch friend grows some superb hazes, but it's been a while...his strains are old African, South American based genetics, and blow any other Dutch weed (that I've smoked) out of the water...

Every time I've been to the Dam I've taken my own bubble hash with me, cos fuck paying their prices for ISO/bubble.

It's got to be the right time of year for Amsterdam, then you've got to go to the right shops. Some shops sell some sativas that take 5 months to grow now. They are so cerebral they are more of a trip than a stone. Grey Area all the way though.
 
Some growers in UK are growin sativas with 6 month flowering cycles, grown from simple 2 strain hybrids, or even from original strains collected from seedcollecting trips to southAmerica, US, Australia, Africa...(when I say some growers I only personally know of one or two who grow to these standards)...

I know one NL grower with similar standards.

I'm sure there are many more people in UK and NL who grow to this level of dedication, but you won't find that sort of thing in a coffee shop, even in the hallowed Grey Area.

And I have smoked weed from Grey Area. I may even have smoked more weed in terms of quantity and number of strains than you MSB, I know it's hard to believe, but just imagine, just for a moment, that you aren'tthe most knowledgeable person on these boards, just on one subject.

Haarlem has better weed than A'dam anyway, they have a haze festival there every year, or used to in late 90's....

I'm not disputing for a moment that for most people in UK the weed in A'dam is much better than what they can score here. But for me personally, I've never found weed there grown with the care and attention to detail, the care in sourcing and provenance of stock plants for breeding that small scale obsessive hobby growers put into it....
 
I reckon any weed grown on a personal scale is gonna knock the bollocks off any commercial scale weed, whether thats commercial weed grown in Amsterdam, UK, California, wherever. Its not like its hard to grow top notch bud, in fact it's pretty fucking easy. It's just that the commercial growers are more motivated by money.

I've been sold 'Dutch import' before, but I don't know how true that is. Like PTCH says I cannot see why anybody would want to import weed on a large scale.
 
I wasn't putting forward that I know any more than you do. I'm just saying that I have tried the weed you're going on about i.e. the non-commercially viable, truly dedicated smokers/growers shit, but I just prefer stuff from Grey Area during the right season. I don't doubt that you've probably smoked a larger variety than I have either. I just don't like the head high from pure sativas, and I have tried the strain hunter varieties. I know it's hard to believe, but just imagine, just for a moment, that other people have different tastes in cannabis to you. I've said it before, my favourite strain is reclining buddha all the way. And I can't find anywhere in the 'dam that grows it like the guy who used to grow it round here either... (and I didn't get the 5 month sativa from grey area, it was a limited run thing that I was pointed toward's by a very friendly but clearly obsessed enthusiast who worked in the cannabis museum)
 
hahaha, unlucky, I know a grower of reclining buddha, not had any off him for over a year, but you've just reminded me I should get in touch. Ta.
 
I just don't like the head high from pure sativas, and I have tried the strain hunter varieties. I know it's hard to believe, but just imagine, just for a moment, that other people have different tastes in cannabis to you.

I only mentioned the sativas cos you said this

Some shops sell some sativas that take 5 months to grow now. They are so cerebral they are more of a trip than a stone.

But the same goes for indicas/hybrids...

You won't find the same quality in any coffeeshop, whatever your tastes..and I agree we all have different tastes.,..

at the moment, I get what the grower is growing, i don't really have a lot of say in it.
 
Honey bee is quite similar, have you tried it? Also, I see that there is G13 x RB is that any good?

never tried honey bee, never tried G13 x RB.

I have had the pleasure of growing G13 x C99, now that was very special :D

edit, btw, you'll be pleased to know you're still on ignore, I'm just selectively ignoring :p
 
never tried honey bee, never tried G13 x RB.

I have had the pleasure of growing G13 x C99, now that was very special :D

edit, btw, you'll be pleased to know you're still on ignore, I'm just selectively ignoring :p

I am indeed pleased.

I've never tried C99, nor had I even heard of it until today. What's your favourite commercial strain?
 
Cinderella 99 was created years ago for Bros Grimm, it was stabilised from a seed found in some Jack Herer, very fast finisher, indica style, but a racy, almost edgy for some people sativa high, beutiflu grower, but very susceptible to budrot....

I couldn't tell you my favourite commercial strain, probably well grown Amnesia, but I only buy from growers now, so get what I'm given, at the moment it's Powr Plant, last month I can't remember, the month before was an excellent g13 cross, can't remember what it crossed with, but he's running a few G13 crosses now, crossed with Parvati Farmhouse, Manala, and ESB.

My favourite strains I've grown are UGORG creations, Old Times, Smile, bred from very good old genetics.

Also I was very lucky some years ago to get hold of the Aeric77 clone of Cali Orange, bears no resemblance to Cali Orange hybrids available now.

Also Apollo 11.

And the G13 x C99 was a real showstopper :D

God I miss it. :(
 
so out of interest, overall: indica or sativa?

i love indica dominant strains, prefer the relaxing stone, i prefer smoking a sativa in the morning but here we rarely get a choice

a few friends grew some cracking super lemon haze, huge cola's, one got burnt by a lamp so it got smoked early (RIP) still was unreal stuff, so crystal covered and dense! cant wait to get my own garden some day........some day!
 
i prefer sativas, but they really not commercialy available in UK, commercial growers need a quick turnaround and manageable plants (stocky indicas/hybrids)
 
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