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judas priest

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ok i just took a 10mg ambien and i feel like im gonna die. i lost my motor skills and i feel like im bout to hurl and i wuz hallucinating.is this normal!??!?! what do i do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hahahahaha! r00fle 0wn3d greenlighter! HAHAHA! Oh dear god, I dropped the cookie I was eating.. to quote this thread:
http://www.bluelight.ru/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=19&t=010847
"ok.... i justt learned like 5 mins ago that u can use this shit to trip or wutever. what class is this in.(barbs,benzos?)or are they not? and wut are the recrational doses"
I guess you found out what the WRONG dose is! And the funny thing is, well, this whole thing is fucking funny, but what makes it FUNNIER is that people told you NOT TO in the previous thread..
This is one for the archives!
 
The source I buy my Xanax from sells Ambien in 10mg pills. That must mean that 10mg is a starter dose, and you'd probably be better off with 3 or 5 haha, so anyhow, this guy was tripping off one pill? Damn, maybe I should order them next time, instead of the Xanax.
(Please don't email asking me for sources. Everytime I mention in a thread that I order from an online pharm I get a couple emails asking for the source. I found it the same way you can, with a good old search engine. They go out of business all the time as it is, no point risking another one getting shut down sooner than it already will. They are a ripoff anyway.)
 
Originally posted by dan0125:
[QB]The source I buy my Xanax from sells Ambien in 10mg pills. That must mean that 10mg is a starter dose, and you'd probably be better off with 3 or 5 haha,
Actually, because it is meant to put you to sleep, and not just relieve anxiety while still allowing you to function (xanax), 10 mg is a pretty good "recreational" dose, if you could call the stuff recreational. If you want to "trip", just don't go to sleep...I personally only use it as a sleeping aid.
 
Dan, Don't waste your money on Anbien. I have a script and all they do is make u sleepy and hard to type. Not to mention $45 for 30 - 10mgs. Hell, I take 20 mgs. and haven't hallucinated once.
 
Hey! Stop making fun or else, (tell em Judas Priest)..YOU GOT ANOTHER THING COMING! (I'm geting old)
 
I don't think the archives are an appropriate place to store gems like this. We need some sort of "hall of shame" or something that is linked to on OD that contains posts of this nature. Maybe it would discourage people from posting stupid shit before they lurk for a little while and decide to actually read the rules.
I'd even be willing to code something up that keeps track of the stats and displays who has posted the most/dumbest shit.
 
While we're on the subject...
Has anyone ever actually been prescribed ambien as a sleep aide? Is it effective? I have had a lot of trouble sleeping lately (usually takes me between 1 and 3 hours to fall asleep, that's not normal is it?) and I am considering seeing a doctor about it. Would Ambien be a good solution?
Thanks in advance.
 
Originally posted by TABula rasa:
While we're on the subject...
Has anyone ever actually been prescribed ambien as a sleep aide? Is it effective? I have had a lot of trouble sleeping lately (usually takes me between 1 and 3 hours to fall asleep, that's not normal is it?) and I am considering seeing a doctor about it. Would Ambien be a good solution?
Thanks in advance.

I heard it is a very effective sleep aid. But you can also try OTC things (ie.Melatonin), which proved to be quite effective for me.
 
personally I don't like ambien as a sleep aid, or as a recreational drug, it's just a messy drug with what seems like a very crude mechanism of action (see above)...even when used as prescribed in my experience it seems to carry a lot of unwanted side effects
others:
imovane (zopiclone) is fairly decent
sonata - don't know, heard it is similar to ambien, but it has the advantage of being very short-acting
short-to-mid-acting benzos (xanax, ativan, or k-pin) are always an option
 
Personally in my experience and the experience of those I have known ambien is way more effective for sleep...maybe this is b/c the 10mg pills are just alot higher dose than normal benzos.
The reason they prescribe ambien for sleep is that its mode of action is tailored so it is long enough to keep you asleep all night but let you wake up in the morning. The company that makes it also claims that it keeps your sleep patterns more naturual (i.e. ratio of differnt types of sleep rem etc..). This is probably true...and probably doesn't mean much (there is a guy who can't have REM sleep at all..but is a succesfull lawyer and has no apparent difficulties).
It was also my impresion that xanax was the benzo that had some of the least sleepy side effects to other effects ratio.
I tend to think Judas actually posted this as a joke or had been imbibing other substanes b/c I have never heard of anyone taking ambien and thinking they were going to die. Sure you can sorta hallucinate (not anything serious) and lose motor skills...but if you are taking it for sleep you are almost certainly just going to be asleep at this time
 
Originally posted by quale:
The reason they prescribe ambien for sleep is that its mode of action is tailored so it is long enough to keep you asleep all night but let you wake up in the morning. The company that makes it also claims that it keeps your sleep patterns more naturual (i.e. ratio of differnt types of sleep rem etc..). This is probably true...and probably doesn't mean much (there is a guy who can't have REM sleep at all..but is a succesfull lawyer and has no apparent difficulties).

I think I read somewhere that this appears to be true in general for benzos and their non-anxiolytic derivatives, in particular that unlike barbiturates, they do not decrease the amount of REM sleep. The absence of hangover symptoms seems to correlate simply with the duration of action of drugs of this class, hence triazolam's common use as a sleep-aid.
In my personal experience, Sonata (zaleplon) was minimally effective as a sleep aid, with doses ranging from 10-70mg (it is more or less equipotent to ambien) not reliably inducing sleep, whereas xanax tended to make me pass out at doses above 5mg. Is the sedation of benzos and related drugs completely mediated by action on GABA-ergic neurons? I seem to have an unusually high tolerance for sedatives, though i do take other sedating drugs nightly (mirtazapine and primidone). i'm aware that GABA-mediated cns depressants generally exhibit cross-tolerance, but does this extend to anti-histamines (specifically mirtazapine) as well?
also, about the "hallucinations," i experienced similar effects with sonata. once, after taking 70mg and smoking a fair bit of pot, the hallucinations became so intense that i for some reason became convinced that my friend had dosed me with acid as a joke, despite the experience not being particularly similar to psychedelic intoxication at all. anyway, this has never happened to me after taking benzos (alprazolam, clonazepam, or lorazepam), so my guess that ambien and sonata amount essentially to benzos without the anxiolytic effects seems to be wrong.
 
5-10mgs of Ambien isn't bad if you're just trying to get to sleep. But you have to take it laying down in bed. If you take it and think you're going to wait to get tired, most likely you are going to experience unpleasant effects.
As for benzos as sleeping aids.. what a crock. There are a million other more effective alternatives with less side effects. I'm sure this practice will go out with the wind in the next few years.
The ultimate one I've found is Seroquel. It's actually an anti-psychotic. Those doses start at 100-200mgs. Curiously, though, it's made in 25mg pills. 50-75mgs is perfect to knock yourself out. You'll wake up forgetting you put any chemicals in you to get to sleep. I'm fairly sensitive to lots of medication, but this has given me no side effects at all.
More thought.. I was taking sleeping pills for months straight. My sleep schedule never changed. My manic episodes continued. My panic attacks persisted.
I'm am thouroughly convinced that the only true way to conquer a serious sleep disorder is changing your cognitive thinking. It's like the will power thing when it comes to keeping yourself from becoming physically dependant on drugs.
 
Benzodiazepines actually work very well, and are especially nice because 1)their hypnotic effects don't seem to really decrease much with time, and 2)they are without serious risks or side effects. I don't doubt that they aren't working well for you, but they're still really great drugs (in the clinical sense) in general.
Seroquel, I will second, works wonders. On high doses of benzos (eg 8mg clonazepam) I wandered around drunkenly all night, though I remember none of it now. 100mg seroquel knocked my ass out... I fell asleep sitting outside at a bar, and I could think of nothing but finding a bed and crawling into it. I also noticed it had some (unpleasant) hallucinogenic/psychedelic effects.
Of course, being an antipsychotic, it carries its share of dangers... the most serious (though rare) is irreversible tardive dyskinesia.
 
Originally posted by SovietContin:
As for benzos as sleeping aids.. what a crock. There are a million other more effective alternatives with less side effects. I'm sure this practice will go out with the wind in the next few years.
Huh? I findthat benso work wonderfully as sleep aids... I can be up on god knows what - a night of rolling, a week long speed binge, or whatever - .5mg of Halcion or 4mg of Klonopin and I am out in 30 minutes.. I sleep all night and wake up feling well rested.. I am not sure what you base your statement on... next to barbituates I think benzos are the ideal sleep aide..
 
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