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Northern LIGHTS

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Hey, decided to join bluelight since i unfortunately have anxiety from making too many stupid decisions over the last year and a half. I'm pretty sure that my issues are largely due to using too much MDMA over this time. I know there are plenty of these threads around, but i really don't care as it doesn't hurt asking.

Now for a little personal history. sorry if it is long, confusing, and exhausting, as i only want to be as accurate as possible so people have accurate ideas of me.

To start off, I am now 20 years old (as of january 26) and am 5'11, weigh 170. i smoked weed and drank first at 12, and did it regularly after 15. I also tried coke first at 15-16, but didn't do it again until december of 2011. I also smoked cigarettes starting september of 2011.

i first took molly around late september/early october 2011 during ACL in austin, only a point. Started out by spacing my rolls a good couple months apart, and used only 3 times between then and february of 2012. during this time, i also took LSD twice (candy flipped the first), got a bad batch of LSD (suspected DOB?) in december, and did coke several times. This is where i started to get really stupid with it. I never did research on the long term affects and just believed that i was fine so long as i didn't OD. So i went to a rave and dropped a half gram in a night, along with some coke as well. In 3 weeks later during an excision show, I took tabs for the first time, (took 2 of them) and they were probably dirty as i had crazy insomnia for about 3 days. did coke that day too. Also had two days somewhere in there (a week or two apart) where i dropped a ten strip and half a strip of pure LSD.

The next experience (probably my biggest binger) was at Nocturnal Wonderland music festival, and during the first day, i did a gram of blow, took a tab of E (felt pretty clean, kinda speedy), smoked DMT, drank, and smoked weed. The second day i took a point of molly, smoked synthetic and real weed, drank more, took about 5 hits of LSD, and finished the night off with 2mg of xanax.

following that weekend, i had a several experiences with coke. Only a few with rolls, some with shrooms and other psychedelics, which all were slow until the summer. Everything picked back up mid summer, as i rolled many times after quitting blow. first roll after a long break was 2 tabs which made roll WAYYY too hard at a show. then, I took .3 one day about a month later (with about a gram of blow), .25 the next weekend at a show, .2 at two instances during parties (had a small 5 second seizure episode at one of them). Also had a bad trip (25-I suspected) where I blacked out and looped, and to this day me nor my trip buddies knew where i was for about 6 hours.

The worst day of them all was a follow up to a .2 roll the night before back in early september of 2012. My buddies and I found an "acid" connect, and well, it wasn't acid at all. I never followed the "bitter-spitter" rule before, and this time made me aware of that. I took 5 hits (suspected DOB by me. told by an experienced person that it could have been that special dragonfly we all have heard of, but i probably wouldn't be here if it was), and then took another .2 of molly. I had mild serotonin syndrome or hyperthermia, as i was throwing up and uncontrollably shaking. These were like conscious seizures i was having, and was aware of it all. Later that night, i had to help a suicidal friend back to senses so they wouldn't jump off a 8 story garage, then went on to trip for another 1-2 days (about 55 hours total for the trip) before going to ICU, where they gave me xanax, ativan, valium, ambien, and some other random shit. i was prescribed ambien and xanax afterwards, and everything (besides weed and drink) slowed to an eventual halt. I rolled twice since (once on tabs, once on pure MDMA) and realized I lost the magic. tripped once at a bassnectar show on 2 hits of suspected DOB (on sugar cubes so couldn't taste any bitter), and did coke once. Took xanax and ambien only a couple times, tried fentanyl once, and smoked weed regularly. stopped ALL hard drugs after my last roll in november (1 point of pure and i freaked out) except for my prescriptions of xanax and ambien ONLY WHEN NECESSARY. I occasionally smoke weed and drink, and have almost successfully quit smoking cigarettes after a year and a half of use.



So, to conclude i rolled about 20 times (including samples and key bump days). In those twenty rolls, I took tabs 4 times (estimated 6.5 tabs), and got pure stuff 20 times (my connects always tested for purity before selling, and would be honest if it wasn't). I tripped LSD about 10 times, got fake acid 3 times, and did shrooms only 2-3 times. I did coke about 30 times, and was never big into abusing pills as that is how my best buddy back home fucked his life up as it led him to heroin. I was however prescribed xanax and ambien (as stated above) took celexa for one day (which stopped due to a bad reaction the first day) and now am on buspar(?) for the anxiety starting today. All of this was during the last year and a half.

The odd thing is that the anxiety/depression came in around christmas (about a month after my last roll) and has worsened ever since. There definitely are contributing factors, as my mom had open heart surgery which bothered me a lot, and several other instances like my suicidal friend that 5 hits of what the fuck night, and a night my mom called me during a rolling/coke binge to tell me she is killing herself and just took a bunch of sleeping pills). Now, about 2-3 months after any rolls, I have episodes of crazy anxiety and mild depression, and the old me that loved and enjoyed so many of the simple things in life is almost gone. It sucks.

So I wrote this long winded speech to ask for some advice from those who were in the same position I am (or still are) and to see how and when i will be back to normal. I also wanted to warn people that by being an idiot like I was, you are messing with your brain and even worse, your life. Please be responsible with your drug use. I am grateful to be here to tell my story, as plenty of us are much less fortunate. IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU. DID TO ME AND I HAD THAT SAME MENTALITY. IT CAME VERY QUICK WITHOUT WARNING. You only get one body, one mind, and one life. Care for it.

Thanks to those for any advice given, and I will give a updates to try to give a timeline for my recovery in order to help people have a sense of scale for the recovery process.
Jason
 
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It took me 3 years to recover from 10+ years of using and abusing MDMA with occasional light use of selected other drugs. Anxiety, depression and leading a shadow life of your former self are all par for the course with E / MDMA abuse. Good news: you do heal. Bad news: it takes patience and time....sometimes a long time.

Recovery from E / MDMA abuse occurs in stages. For me there was rapid recovery in the first 3 months followed by a slow, sustained recovery from anxiety and cognitive impairment over the span of several years. I don't know if it was time or me starting to see a mental health professional about 7 months ago, but one day I realized that I felt that familiar, old spark of my former intellectually curious and optimistic self. At that point I knew I was going to be just fine; and I'm back in the business of enjoying life to the fullest.

Best wishes. :-)
 
Good news: you do heal. Bad news: it takes patience and time

it doesnt happen over night but it does happen...

try to stay positive as hard as it may seem.

good luck
 
It took me 3 years to recover from 10+ years of using and abusing MDMA with occasional light use of selected other drugs. Anxiety, depression and leading a shadow life of your former self are all par for the course with E / MDMA abuse. Good news: you do heal. Bad news: it takes patience and time....sometimes a long time.

Recovery from E / MDMA abuse occurs in stages. For me there was rapid recovery in the first 3 months followed by a slow, sustained recovery from anxiety and cognitive impairment over the span of several years. I don't know if it was time or me starting to see a mental health professional about 7 months ago, but one day I realized that I felt that familiar, old spark of my former intellectually curious and optimistic self. At that point I knew I was going to be just fine; and I'm back in the business of enjoying life to the fullest.

Best wishes. :-)

This is exactly what happened to ne too though my abuse lasted only 2 years. fast recovery to a point but the cognative difficulties and depression/anxiety hung around for about 2 years after stopping all drug use. you could even recognize when you got better. It would just hit me one day that I was alot better than I used to be with memory or social anxiety and that would give me more hope for my recovery.
 
i was on the same page my friend..i abused ecstasy (no knoowing if every pill was pure cus i never tested).for a year to a year n a half...i started becoming very depresd.i was scared of the world for no reason.scared to live because i was so scared to die...depression was realy takin over me.i didnt hate my life but death became such a big phobia i felt i rather kill my self n get it over with than wait till death came for me...my use was very heavy tho..it got som bad i would pop maybe 3-4 days a week.at times 7-14 pills a day (no joke) ..would alwasy be coming down..lost my job...and nearly lost my life..i O'd the first time out of ecstasy.n second time from ecstasy n coke....but the last time i overdosed i kinda jst slaped my self out of it..thank god i was able to pull through..BUT ANYWAYS AFTER 2 YEARS GOOD NEWS IS..I RECOVERD.N STILL AM RECOVERING..BUT IT ALL DOES GET BETTER!!! :D DONT THINK NEGATIVE...ALOT OF US HAVE GONE THRU THIS..I KNOW U WANT IT TO HURRY AND GO AWAY BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME...MY DEPRESSION WENT AWAY SLOWLY AFTER GETTIN OF THE DRUGS..MY FEAR OF DEATH WAS DISAPEARING SLOWLY BUT SURELY TO THE POINT THAT I WOULDNT THINK ABOUT DYING 24/7...BUT THEN ANXIETTY HITME LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER..I WAS HAVING PANIC ATACKS WHERE I THOUGHT I WAS DYING..SOMETHIN WAS DEFF. WRONG.I WOULD GO IN IN OUT OF THE DOCS.THEY SAID I WAS HEALTHY FOR MY AGE AND NOT A THING WAS WRONG.SO THEY RECOMEMDED A PSYCHOTRIST (SPELL CHECK)..GOT ME ON CELEXA.WICH DIDNT WORK.AND THEN PAXIL..I WAS REALY CONVINCED IT WASNT A MENTAL ISUE BUT PHYSICAL THAT I FELT SO SICK.BUT SURE ENOUGH A GOOD 5 MONTHS WENT BY AND I RELIZED I WASNT HAVIN SO MANY ANXIETY ATTACKS..I WASNT FEELIN LIKE SHIT EVERYDAY OR FEELIN LIKE IM DYING...SLOWLY U START RECONIZING YOUR GETIN BETTER..

MY ADVISE IS STAY STRONG.KEEP UR SELF BUSY..I FOUND THAT A HOBIE WILL KEEP UR MIND OFF OF THINGS..TAKE UP ON THE MEDS THEY DO HELP JUST GOTA FIND WHAT SUITS U.EXCERSISE DAILY.DO LOTS OF CARDIO.FIND THINGS THAT MAKE U HAPPY AND DO THEM DONT BE SCARED OR KEEP UR SELF LOCKED INDOORS..

I ACTUALY STARTED GROWING MJ PLANTS CUS IT REALY TAKES ALOT OF UR TIME..I LEARNED ALOT BOUT THEM.KEEP ME BUSY SO THAT I FORGOT ALL BOUT MY ANXIETY..I STARTED WORKING OUT HITTIN THE GYM EVERYDAY I WENT FROM 183 LBS TO 138 IN ONE YEAR..BEST SHAPE OF MY LIFE :)..IT REALY IS ALL ABOUT STAYING BUSY,FOCUSED, ACTIVE...STAY POSITIVE...ULL GET THRU IT..SORRY FOR THE LONG STORY I JST FEEL LIKE WHEN I WAS ON HERE ASKING THE SAME THAT U WERE.NO ONE GAVE ME GOOD DETAILED ANSWERS...HOPE THIS HELPS...JUST STAY OF THE DRUGS EVEN WEED.(UNLESS IT REALY HELPS) AND YOULL BE GOOD MAN..
 
Hey Northern LIGHTS,
I'm a brand- new Bluelighter just up the road in Waco. Your post made me think a lot of myself. I haven't done illicit drugs in a few years (I'm on methadone), but the anxiety, depression, and panic attacks that have developed recently I blame on the amount & variety of drugs I did during a large part of my life. I have never in my life been depressed, anxious or had a panic attack, I thought that was for older ladies who didn't have all their brain cells intact! In fact, I didn't even know what a panic attack was, really, until I had one.
I only did E a few times (maybe 5 or 6 times) and that in the mid 80s, though my interest in it hasn't died. Waco is a hard place, though, to acquire it.
My family tells me, just like you, that the old me is gone or nearly gone. The me that loved and enjoyed so much about life, and the simple things, too. I stress way too much about life now, the depression, anxiety, the methadone (I hate being still "hooked" on something). I have a family now and a career, which adds a whole new level to the stress. Children help, though, a lot, with the view and approach I take on life. With them, nothings very serious and everything is play & enjoyment & innocence. It's really wonderful to have kids.
Hey, I don't know if you're a BBQ fan or not (I am) but you've got two of the best places in the world in Austin. They're both fairly new, too. La Barbeque and Franklins. You've probably heard of em both, especially with the drama of La Barbeque, the former J Mueller BBQ. I'm a huge Texas BBQ fan and the best in the world is Franklins, though there is always a long line that has to be dealt with before they inevitably sell out of meat before noon.
Anyway, it's good to hear from a fellow central Texan right up the road. Take heart in that there is healing available for emotions. They do heal naturally, and there's also lots of different treatment options as well (especially in Austin). Damage done from drugs apparently is not permanent in most cases, but low usage or abstinence is often or usually required for full healing & restoration. Sometimes, though, abstinence actually makes it worse, as in my case. I've found that I don't function at my emotional/mental/physical highest unless I have an opiate coursing through me. I'm so thankful for methadone, and a very low dose at that, but I see myself on this stuff for a long time if not the rest of my life. But life is better with it than without it, and I've had a couple of doctors tell me I probably have a low natural endorphin production level, which makes methadone a Godsend as it heightens endorphin levels. The other cool thing is I can't abuse any opiates/opioids while on it & I don't do any other drugs & am not really interested except possibly occasional ecstasy if I can manage to find some without going to jail. E is not addictive, however, so the rare E use does not concern me.
Well, this is too long for my first appearance here, so I'll just say I look forward to participation here on Bluelight and, "Hook Em Horns."
 
It took me 3 years to recover from 10+ years of using and abusing MDMA with occasional light use of selected other drugs. Anxiety, depression and leading a shadow life of your former self are all par for the course with E / MDMA abuse. Good news: you do heal. Bad news: it takes patience and time....sometimes a long time.

Recovery from E / MDMA abuse occurs in stages. For me there was rapid recovery in the first 3 months followed by a slow, sustained recovery from anxiety and cognitive impairment over the span of several years. I don't know if it was time or me starting to see a mental health professional about 7 months ago, but one day I realized that I felt that familiar, old spark of my former intellectually curious and optimistic self. At that point I knew I was going to be just fine; and I'm back in the business of enjoying life to the fullest.

Best wishes. :-)
Do you have a story of your recovery avalible? its far a long time...:)
 
^^ 8 years for me. It just started going away but itself. Who would have thought life would be boring and demotivating without crippling anxiety, paranoia and ptsd to keep you on your toes. I missed it somewhat, no lies.
 
WOW people recovered after several years!! you give hope to people that like me are in the good way of recovery....i dont five a fuck about how long it wil take...but its sure that reading this i will stand and wait and fight (i mean sport and live) until that times come!!
 
figured i would throw in a little update right now since i cant think of anything else to do. things have been a lot better of late. one month can make a huge difference WOW. 4 months without molly, 5-6 since everything else (but weed, drinking, etc.).

i've been finding that anxiety seems to have subsided a huge deal. maybe i've just learned to cope with it and ignore it, or maybe this is a sign of good things to come. being involved in other things and just spending time out of the house really has helped me a ton. still have a good way to go, but im relieved a shit ton that im not spending every minute of the day worrying about worrying and putting myself into mental loops. though not everything worked out as i am still struggling with nicotine addiction and such. was only able to quit cigs for 3 weeks, but thats 3 weeks better than the last time i tried.

4 months and counting.
 
It took me an entire month to get out of total panic mode - emotions were completely out of control - which involved crying myself to sleep every night/ hating myself/ being a complete mess. After the second month anxiety was far milder and I was able to experience a neutral mindset for the first time.. I am just starting to get some ups to accompany the downs which is very promising, but like you, have some way to go.

I too have been unable to quit my pack a day habit. I wonder how much this is holding back my recovery but I don't have the will power to find out. I have no doubt that smoking has been a huge obstacle to my progress. Think I'm going to give quitting a serious go in a month or two when, hopefully, my improved mood will have improved to an extent that enables me to deal withdrawals etc. (maybe the "in a month or two" thing is just the tobacco addict in me doing its thing... will find out soon enough)

A high dose omega 3 regimen (12 grams + a day), multivitamin, gingko biloba and almost daily weightlifting are some of the main things I have relied on to get back to where I wanna be, and I'm happy with the progress so far. Think mindset is important as well. You need to be sufficiently positive to get back to where you want to be, yet realistic about a possible time frame for recovery - impatience will only lead to frustration and disappointment in this situation imo.

Good luck!
 
^^ 8 years for me. It just started going away but itself. Who would have thought life would be boring and demotivating without crippling anxiety, paranoia and ptsd to keep you on your toes. I missed it somewhat, no lies.


8 years to recover from taking MDMA. Thats what happens kids. You have been warned. =D

I think people with this sort of complaint have underlying issues and lots of them. 99+% can take MDMA without any serious side effects. And these 99.9%mod people do not post on bluelight about how they "came out the other side"after they rolled balls on MDMA.

When reading bluelight everything must be kept in perspective.
 
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