Help... Was on black tar now subs

[iamstone]

First off, thank you for reading this. I do hope to get straightforward answers instead of judgements...

I was on moderate black tar h on and off for about 4,5 months, been through some horrible withdrawals and also weak ones towards the end after I realized it's because of my on and off crazy uses.

I forced myself to go out of the country to cut off the physical dependence, and got about 40mg of suboxone with me. After about 20 hours since last use, withdrawal started kickin in (much less severe) but still noticeable. I then took 4mg and stabilized after an hour. Ever since I took only 2mg -3mg till today the full 72 hour mark. I am in a pretty hot place in Asia and I'm still feeling shivers/chills sometimes... Is it because my body is still detoxing or is my body just weak from the h? Even after my 2mg of subs this morning I still feel anxiety and my brain can't stop thinking about my ex that I broke up with about 4 months ago...

I am pretty sad and sorta depressed. And been hoping to get a little high or satisfaction. Even a little. A lot of ppl been saying it's possible to get high on subs, how can I do so with the film? I tried sticking it up my nose and I got barely any feeling. I'm sorry if it's against your beliefs, but I am just really bored and empty. The subs helps me with some craving and stops most of my withdrawal, but there's this empty void in me that I can't manage at all!!!

I'm going crazy...

Any advice is appreciated... Either to get a little high off subs, or how to manage this detox. I am not planning on taking the subs pass a week regardless of whatever. I cannot afford to go through the never ending subs withdrawal......

 

[matt561]

if you're looking to kick the dope, i would write out on paper (or keep it in mind) a taper with the suboxone. being that you only have 40mg of suboxone, it's going to be a quick taper. either that or you're going to be a little uncomfortable and drag out the detox process for a while. that's my two sense (cents). good luck with your detox.

 

[LlZARD99]

My experience is that it takes a good 6-7 days for the h to get out of your system. What I do (am doing again now) is a day after my last h-dose, I take 16mg of sub, wait three days and take 8mg, then i go as my body tells me. If you are looking for a high, the only time i felt highg off sub was the very first day, so as far as im concerned ur bummin. But a buzz just like with anything has to do with taking more than your body needs....so if u save up 16mg for the last day, splurge and let me know if u get a buzz. good luck

 

[Justin Sane 53]

I don't think you have enough to get buzzed again. When I went through withdrawals I just took melatonin or diphenhydramine to take the edge off- pretty much just sleeping through it works. this method only helps with the urge to get high, so you'll still need the suboxone to deal with the physical effects. Everytime you feel like getting high just go do something (productive hopefully) or hang out with people so you can't get high.

The depression is pretty typical so don't think you're an alien; it DOES go away with time, though. If you think you're useless then go get good at something silly!

 

[TTZ234]

On a pharmacological level:

Just mentioning that with subs less is more..this is because it(buprenorphine the active ingredient in subs) is a partial agonist/antagonist on different receptors..
While its main metabolite Norbuprenorphine is a full agonist with its own unique pharmacology .
The only thing here is that Buprenorphine has a much higher affinity for your receptors then norbuprenorphine..so when you take a low dose 1-2 mg more receptors is available for norbupe ..wich is why they perscribe buprenorphine in much lower doses to pain patients (temgesic 02,/0,4 mg)..
There is also ways to convert more buprenorhine to norbuprenorphine by adminestering a CYP450 (enzyme in your liver) inducer..you can find more info on this if you do a quick search around this site..

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

If 4-8mg of Suboxone doesn't get you high then exceeding your dose is not going to get you any higher. In my opinion there seems to be a ceiling effect with buprenorphine. Putting films up your noes is not really going to get you high. IV'ing it may not even if you are taking it on any kind of basis. You need to have a small tolerance in order for that to really work. And bumping your dose from 4mg onto 16mg isn't going to make any real difference, maybe help your cravings a little better.