help required

[edarrin]

I have a question and I think this is the most likely place to get an answer. Move if appropriate mods.

OK. I'm tapering with suboxone (7 days). Short I know but I have a reason for this schedule. I will be out of town(country in fact) starting March 14. I am on a shitload of drugs. A walking prescription some might say.

Anyway I have Mirapex for RLS. It is a dopamine agonist. Worked great (if I make mistakes it's because my brain is on pause) when I was shooting 20mg hyrdromorphone and/or a point or 2 of H per day,. I also have Seroquel, which will knock out a horse at the right dose, and is a dopamine antagonist.

My question is do you thinkit is dangerous to stop .125mg Mirapex (smallest dose there is) and Zonk out with Seroquel? I don't want another benzo addiction. I know they work but I can only use them very speringly.

I cannot sleep on the damned Suboxone. I know this has been covered but I have never seen this particular topic discussed.

Opinions/expereinces anyone?

 

[Hammilton]

I don't believe that the Mirapex will be very useful if you take seroquel. Quetiapine isn't a strong dopamine antagonist. I remember reading something about a dose only having about 30% receptor occupancy at any one time, which is pretty low. It doesn't cause that total blackade a la haldol, thus the lower, but not absent, risk of TD.

If you have RLS badly though, seroquel will make it MUCH, MUCH worse! One night I just forgot to take my methadone, and left it hat home. So the next time I could take it, it was 36 hours after my last dose. Nothing major, but I took 25mg seroquel and had a small glass of wine. Worst RLS of my life. I'd have thought the seroquel would have just knocked me out. Nope, instead I was stuck in a terrible half awake state with terrible RLS that'd move from leg to shoulder to arm to foot, and repeat.

 

[edarrin]

Try 50mg next time. I know that place you are talking about.

That dismal almost asleep but not really. Waking up like a truck ran over you.

50mg knocks me out. I think I'll try double the dose of Mirapex first to see if that works. Fuck I hate opiates(at tmes like this anyway). I'm not sre I can stop. I may end up on methadone too. At least I can sleep and work. trouble is when you want to travel.

Especially going to U.S. I've been denied entry before for stuff that happened years ago. I have a pardon in Canada but not in U.S. I got an I-195 (I think that is correct name). It states I canentr country but they can still deny me entry if they want. Bloody paranoid asses IMO.

I have a letter from my pain managment doc stating I need the hydromorphone . However, I don't think hydromorph contin is sold in the U.S. and they could deny entry or confinscate it.

 

[Hammilton]

They won't take your pallidone or whatever it's called (that's what it used to be); as long as you have a valid prescription, that'll be left alone. It's not as if it's a CI.

 

[edarrin]

^ Have u gone through U>S> customs with hydromorphone?

The reason I'm concerned in the first place is because the reason I was denied entry was, lets say, drug related.

Now here I come waltzing in with narcotics. Even with the docs letter they can deny entry. Says it right on the form, up to , to use the term loosely, officers opinion. Well they are not medical/healthcare related people and they have one track minds. These guys have totally bought into the 'drugs are always bad' horseshit the U.S. gov is constantly on about.

 

[edarrin]

Well, Have you or not. Didn't think so. Thanks for the advice though.

And Pallidone was not continuous release I don't think. That's what contin means. Even if it was that is my point. It has been taken off the U.S. market. They can confinscate it if they choose. I have read the Homeland Security website and CBG site, snow bird sites and they all basically say the same thing, 'leave it in it's original container (one with your name on it) and hope to fuck they don't take it. I realize people bring drugs back and forth all the time. Most don't have my history.

And exactly what is a C1 schedule drug. Heroin and others deemed to have no therapeutic value as found by the U.S. government .

The only way you can undo that mess is through the political system. Make your votes count. I'm glad that Obama won. He certainly has his hands full after Bush. Yikes!

Incidentely (sp?) do they have Nabilone in the U.S.? I think that may be 'worse' than trying the hydromorphone for some demented reason based on nothing substancial. Is it C1 or C2 I wonder?