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Help please!!! Natural anti anxiety or otc

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kkgb1035

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Long story short got kicked of my kpins which is a,blessing in disguise I think and some,stuff happend,to me over thhe last couple days that makes me just get benzos out of my life.
I do have some left over but does anyone know anything natural or otc that will help my anxiety.
Im pretty desperate
 
Those could work. Honestly, you should go get prescribed Gabapentin. Easy to get and really helps. Orc is tricky. As above poster said, kava or Keaton can help. They work for anxiety. You have to be careful with the Kratom though. It can have its own side effects. If you use Kratom as a tool, don't party with it, use it lightly to cover or get you through withdrawal. The Kava works well. Do a little reading on it. Try to get bulk powder. It's the best.
If neither of those are options are available, you will have to stack with really otc stuff like lots of valerian root capsules( sold most everywhere that vitamins are sold) chamomile tea and occasionally Otc sleep medication like diphenhydramine or doxylamine. I say occasional because that can hurt a benzo taper.
As far as those extra Clonazepam you have. How many do you have? Anyway strech them out, taper them as best and slowly as you can. If you only have say less than 5, I would halve or quarter them and use them as a hold you over medicine. Use them sparingly to alleviate withdrawal symptoms.
How long has your habit been and how high of a regular amount are you coming down from?
This is very important. Please let us know.
 
im thinking of purchasing some kava but have read reports that its fairly weak like valarian! which ive used in the past and had no noticable effect on my anxiety. so is kava the same?
 
im thinking of purchasing some kava but have read reports that its fairly weak like valarian! which ive used in the past and had no noticable effect on my anxiety. so is kava the same?
 
My benzo tolerance in through the roof
I have just been taking 1mg a day for the past week ,I definatly can feelthat I have,a tough road ahead of me.I talked,to my dr and she,saod of,things get worse then im gonna go into detox so I can be under medical attention.and iv been on and,off benzos for 4 years.this last year being the,worst as in the,anount iv been taking.
Thanks for the reply speedking
 
I'm so happy your going into inpatient detox. That has to be the safest yet uncomfortable way to detox. See it for the positives. It is better than trying to taper yourself. Congrats again. Please PM me when you get out. I would enjoy hearing your experience. If interested, PM me any time.
 
Please don't double post. People will ignore you. Read up on what your asking. Kava Kava is a root from Hawaii and areas like that.
The pills they sell in health stores are weak/ junk. Kava can be real strong, depending on how it's made.
Kava has nothing to do with Valerian. Valerian is great in its own right. It works for certain people in different ways.
Do a google search on Kava and see what it says.
 
kkgb1035 said:
My benzo tolerance in through the roof
I have just been taking 1mg a day for the past week ,I definatly can feelthat I have,a tough road ahead of me.I talked,to my dr and she,saod of,things get worse then im gonna go into detox so I can be under medical attention.and iv been on and,off benzos for 4 years.this last year being the,worst as in the,anount iv been taking.
Thanks for the reply speedking
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I wouldn't call that through the roof. I used to take .5 Klonopin 3x a day for many months and when I quit em I switched to Ativan (unusual I know, usually it switch from a short acting to a longer acting when tapering) but cold turkey at this point doesn't scream danger to me. Although since you still have some try as Speed King has said and do a quick taper to make things as comfortable ams safe as possible.

EDIT: Sorry, I thought you meant you had only been on benzos for a week. By all means if a medical detox is available, take it.
 
gabapentin can alleviate anxiety but i found the side effects troubling..blurred vision, sexual dysfunction, decreased motor skills are justa few and i was taking low doses of gabapentin(600 mgs a day)..

kratom will lower your anxiety, certain strains will..do your research as certain strains could increase your anxiety!

i found L Theanine to be an effective anti-anxiety product that is very cheap and legal OTC..granted, it doesnt work like a benzo but it decreases anxiety..
 
"gabapentin can alleviate anxiety but i found the side effects troubling..blurred vision, sexual dysfunction, decreased motor skills are justa few and i was taking low doses of gabapentin(600 mgs a day).."

Heh, well all those side effects you listed are actually part of what I enjoy about it.
 
Kratom can be alright if you already know about it. I'm referring to using it in a taper. I've used Kratom a few times and have a deicent understanding, but I'm far from fluent in it.
I noticed some stimulation effects while it was wearing off that might be bothersome at high dosage, or in a person naive to it and uses it during a taper. I'm still learning though.
I never tried L-Theanine but heard it is good.
Gabapentin can have a bunch of side effects, but when your going through hard core withdrawal, it can be a gift from God.
The side effects aren't shit compared to the benefits it provides during many types of withdrawal.
I don't want to get carried away here and throw the thread off, but Kava is nice IMO. If you could stack it correctly, full blown Kava effects crossed with a Kratom high would be awesome(at least theoretically. That may be a little heavy on the liver though.

Deal is, if there is a medical detox available, take it. The preferred choice.

Tapering on ones own using various medicines and chemicals is completely doable, but you have to have will power and be able to read your body so you know when to use X medicine or chemical at the appropriate time.
Again, Gabapentin or Lyrica, is one of my favorites for detox.
 
Speed King said:
Those could work. Honestly, you should go get prescribed Gabapentin. Easy to get and really helps. Orc is tricky. As above poster said, kava or Keaton can help. They work for anxiety. You have to be careful with the Kratom though. It can have its own side effects. If you use Kratom as a tool, don't party with it, use it lightly to cover or get you through withdrawal. The Kava works well. Do a little reading on it. Try to get bulk powder. It's the best.
If neither of those are options are available, you will have to stack with really otc stuff like lots of valerian root capsules( sold most everywhere that vitamins are sold) chamomile tea and occasionally Otc sleep medication like diphenhydramine or doxylamine. I say occasional because that can hurt a benzo taper.
As far as those extra Clonazepam you have. How many do you have? Anyway strech them out, taper them as best and slowly as you can. If you only have say less than 5, I would halve or quarter them and use them as a hold you over medicine. Use them sparingly to alleviate withdrawal symptoms.
How long has your habit been and how high of a regular amount are you coming down from?
This is very important. Please let us know.
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How can otc sleep aids hurt a benzo taper?
 
Speedy, you know I got love for you man but gaba sucks. It works for a while and then is just a dependency. The withdrawals can be just as shitty as benzos and can totally destabilize your brain if you don't taper it right. Unlike benzos, there is no quick fix for gaba withdrawals, eg inpatient detox can't help you. You have to taper it really slow. It works okay, just the dependency and withdrawal are often minimized IMO. It is not a safer alternative to benzos, that's what I thought, now I have to spend a year of my life or more painfully tapering this shit. Yeah, the withdrawal, if you get it, is a total mind-fuck. I have seen some people totally fucked off for over a year because of gaba and still having issues. Just my .02
 
Snake Eyes, certain ones like diphenhydramine may aggravate some withdrawal symptoms. YMMV, but they became bothersome for me. Might be okay, but still be cautious.
 
Well, I shouldn't say it sucks, it's better than benzos. Pretty much all anti-anxiety drugs have some type of withdrawal. It's okay but more dangerous than people give it credit for. HR and all that, ya know? Seeing what the withdrawal does to some people has kind of turned me off from it. If it had no withdrawal, I'd be all about it. It does work reasonably well, I don't know, kinda conflicted about it, but not looking forward to another withdrawal personally.

Something that has always interested me is afobazole, you can buy it on amazon. Damn russians make some pretty cool drugs.
 
jammin83, buddy, that afobazole sure sounds promising. I'm going to check it out on Amazon.There seems to be a plethora of Russian drugs that seem very worth while.

Back to an earlier post. I have had to withdraw from, in my case, benzodiazepines at a much quicker than suggested or safe rate. Now older, wiser, faster, stronger (sorry Daft Punk fan) I understand different methods of tapering for different occasions.
Now, I've never been this bad in recent memory, but if I for example were facing a nightmare withdrawal from something as dangerous as benzodiazepines, I would be looking for something that may help cushion the drastic blow I was about to receive.
In regards to Gabapentin, sure you can get "addicted" to it, and its own withdrawal can suck, but when used to help with the acute (most dangerous period) of benzodiazepine withdrawal, the benefits outweigh the risks. Mix in a proper tapering method and the withdrawal side effects will be minimal.

jammin83 is correct in pointing out how important a proper tapering plan is.
The more time you spend learning, planning and sticking to a proper taper, the safer and easer a withdrawal will be.

I forgot to add, I'm suprised that no one mentioned magnesium and its nmda blocking effects. It's suppose to aid withdrawal.
To whomever, there are many options and much information on this subject if you wish to delve any further into it. Search engines and diffrent threads on this site will help a great deal.
 
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