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Lynn8514

Lynn8514

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HELP!! I took 50mg of lyrica this morning and I just now took a 600mg gabapentin on accident. I feel so bad I just wasn't thinking. I can't find anything online and what I have found says don't do it. I'm already not ok but will I be worse? I've already had a Xanax this morning but that was a waste- it didn't help.

this is day 9 of methadone withdrawal which is why I'm taking this stuff at all.
 
You'll be absolutely fine.

It's nearly impossible to OD on gabapentin, and 50mg of Lyrica is a very low dose. Xanax in combination with those shouldn't make it any worse, unless you took an ungodly amount. The combination will not have any detrimental effect (or in all likelihood won't) unless one medication or the other has had bad effects for you.

Don't worry about it.

If something does get nasty, go to your local emergency room or urgent care center. But like I said, this does not sound like a cause for alarm.

I pray the combo gives you some relief.
 
Toothpastedog is absolutely correct on all accounts. I really hope you feel better. If the Xanax isn't helping it means you need a larger dose because it does work. Of course none of the meds will make you feel 100 percent better. They are just too soften the blow. When was the last time you slept? Going without sleep will make all the symptoms so much worse.
 
Really really good point CJ - sleep is one of the most important thing we can do to heal during withdrawal. It's so hard sometimes, but rest is key. Without enough rest it make everything else more painful and harder to cope with.
 
Thank you all! I haven't noticed anything since taking both. No bad effects- no effects at all really.
A few days ago I took a gabapentin and slept all night. After that, i didn't get much sleep even when I increased the dose. I didn't have many of those so I switched to lyrica. The lyrica and Xanax allowed me to sleep last night. I took the lyrica this morning because it really helps with my restless legs. I usually only take 1 mg of Xanax.

My main't problem right now (when rls is under control) is eating. It takes me a couple hours just to get one ensure down.
 
Tolerance builds to gabapentin SUPER fast, so it doesn't surprise me it isn't as effective as it had been (although a day or two is rather fast). Shouldn't be as much an issue with pregabalin. Keep taking it for RLS, works great for that. Alprazolam and pregabalin def should help with sleep. Although alprazolam isn't the best benzo for sleep during w/d it's better than nothing for sure.

I feel you, eating is one of my biggest problems, more so withdrawing of methadone than any other opioid. If nausea is a problem, perhaps try something like Dramamine/meclizine or another OTC motion sickness kinda pill. If you don't mind and have access, cannabis can help a lot with the nausea too. If you have a doctor you can get it from, see if you can find yourself some Zofran/Ondansetron. That's the best anti-nausea med I've ever encountered or heard of next to cannabis. I remember when I was last kicking how even the smell, or the mere thought, of food was enough to send my stomach cartwheeling. I've been told tramadol can help with nausea, and of course general w/d symptoms, but I'd feel a little strange taking a quasi-opioid while trying to withdrawal from opioids. I feel I'd be too tempted to just start relying on tramadol...

If you have enough of it, I'd recommend trying higher doses of the pregabalin. Try 300mg if you can, I've never heard of anyone not being able to tolerate that (and considering you're in w/d the worst thing that would happen, unless you have a preexisting seizure issue perhaps, is that you'd get drowsy or fall asleep). You should notice a bit of a diff at 300mg, and if it helps try going up to 600mg, up to 900mg. Those two higher doses should make a significant difference - many people who tolerate pregabalin well (which it sounds like you do) find it eliminates most major symptoms of w/d.

Good luck! I'm sorry to hear it didn't make you feel any better. Hope you find some relief soon.
 
Its great that you slept. I went 10 days without sleeping my last kick and I swear that's not an exaggeration. Going to a doctor for more comfort meds is a solid idea. Zofran and clonidine are drugs any doctor will write you that will really help.
 
Toothpaste, I think we have the same exact symptoms! If I even look at food I feel sick. Ugh. I do have some zofran I'll try in the morning. I didn't have a lot of gabapentin so the dose was low anyway- that's probably why it didn't work. Thankfully I have plenty of lyrica and I can take it during the day and at night. I've been doing 300mg and it's been working great. I've heard it can be addictive but I'll be on day 10 tomorrow so I hope I don't need it long enough to form another addiction. I have Valium but it just makes me cry for some reason. The Xanax has been doing the best so far. I know it's addictive too so I hope I won't need it much longer.

Today I had a friend come visit and it really helped a lot with the empty depressed feeling. Music also helps a lot. I'm honestly a little nervous because I'm not sure I'll recognize true normal sober when it finally comes.

Almost day 10!!!!!
 
crimsonjunk said:
Its great that you slept. I went 10 days without sleeping my last kick and I swear that's not an exaggeration. Going to a doctor for more comfort meds is a solid idea. Zofran and clonidine are drugs any doctor will write you that will really help.
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Since I have the lyrica and Xanax, and it's almost day 10, do you think I should still see a doctor? Im ridiculously weak and my back hurts like no other but shouldn't the worst parts be over by like.. Tomorrow?
 
I am really not trying to discourage you right now but I have real doubts the worst will be over tomorrow. You should 100 percent go see a doctor for more comfort meds. And even if the worst is over tomorrow (and I really hope it is) you will still get good use out of those comfort meds in the weeks to come. As you start feeling better what will happen is you will have days where you feel normal followed by days where you feel like you are back in full blown WD. Basically the Waves phenomenon continues.

Load up on the comfort meds tonight and try to get some sleep. I would say you are at or near the half way point .
 
It's interesting to note that different folks prefer different strokes. I'd recommend using as little meds as you need, if you need them to sleep. Always try to use less, when you can, since getting your body used to itself is part of the process. And it will!
 
Normally, I would take as little as possible but since the withdrawals are so bad at night, it's better to take more. I hate waking up in the middle of the night to take more meds and then wait for them to kick in. I'm really greaful to even get sleep.. I've never been able to before but this lyrica is amazing for rls. I wish I'd known about it before I started methadone.
 
I'm also hoping there is something to take that motivates my brain to produce its own serotonin, dopamine and endorphins. I hope maybe a doctor will know...
 
Hey Lynn...I know you feel like crap, but at the risk of repeating myself...Exercise (i.e. movement of your body) whether walking, dancing, running will be essential for endorphins. YOU will have to be the "motivator", sweetie. YOU CAN do this. Baby steps (pun intended) at first...push the stroller around the block. Get your friend or your mom to stroll with you and your baby. Take breaks if you need them. You'll be amazed at how much better you'll feel with the sunshine on your face, breathing deeply...being thankful for the moment.

Crystalized ginger will ease the nausea. If it's horrid, Phenergan suppositories are a go-to for nausea...and they make me drowsy, which would be helpful for you at night. As I said earlier, I've never experienced addiction, so I don't know if you can take the supplement for sleep called "melatonin". Is that allowed? Try some Pedialyte popsicles to keep your metabolites balanced.

(((HUGS))) of support.
 
Melatonin can sure help, but when it comes to acute opioid w/d it's not all that effective. I think we can pretty much all agree that the less medication necessary, the better. Anyone can detox of an opioid (more or less) without any meds, but there's no reason to suffer needlessly. I guess it's good to experience discomfort in withdrawal, as a kinda deterent force, but I don't think masochism is very useful. Balance, as in everything :)

And while meds can be important and very valuable, I think what we do outside taking meds while detoxing is even more important. I.e. exercise, healthy diet, sleep, avoiding too much stress, being good to yourself, doing things you love, etc.

I've tried a number of ginger products in opioid withdrawal, cause I love ginger and generally find it very effective at combating nausea. But honestly, in acute withdrawal, if I'm feeling nauseous, ginger anything just is not going to do it. Even cannabis won't really solve the problem, although it can help. Only thing that works for me (granted, I've crohns disease) is Zofran. The Zofran should make a big difference with the nausea! I'm stoked to hear you have some available. I find it take a little while to kick in, and it doesn't really solve the lack of appetite issue, but it does make a big difference in terms of making is actually possible to swallow! :\

I wouldn't worry too much about developing a pregabalin habit. I mean, it is a concern, absolutely, but the majority of people can have a month of pretty damn regularly pregabalin use and walk away pretty unscathed. It's great that is avaliable. The gabapentin is also good to have. It obviously isn't as useful as the pregabalin, and requires much higher doses to be as effective (as in like 4g doses vs 600-900mg). Gabapentin can also create dependency, so in that regard it isn't a god send. Probably lower potential for it than pregabalin given potency, but it's possible for both. In your case I wouldn't worry about this though.

If you're that uncomfortable, I'd totally take as much pregabalin as necessary, safely of course. Go get a message every day or every other day, at least when you're feeling especially shitty. That makes a huge difference. And jacuzzis/saunas are amazing. Manicures can also be awesome, anything that makes you feel good about yourself and how you look. Look good, feel good, right?

And I also agree with CJ again, day 10 of a methadone detox isn't nearly over the hump. It's more like you now know what the hump is. I doubt it would get much if any worse though. The worst thing about methadone detox is the insomnia IME. It tends to go on and on, which is why I begin to obsess over healthy ways to get some sleep pretty early on in the process (exercise, massage, medication, low sugar, no caffeine, etc. etc.).
 
I really really hope the zofran can allow me to at least eat a little of something. Does anyone know how many ensures a day a person needs if they can't eat? I want to exercise, I'm just in a lot of physical pain and have a hard time moving anywhere at all. I was proud that I sat on the front porch with my best friend today lol. I really don't understand why this is so bad since I tapered like I was supposed to.
my husband is getting a little upset because he thinks I should be better and wants all the housework done. I'm trying so hard to keep my 1 year old happy and do housework but my body is just extremely weak. He thinks I should just take the dose but I won't do it. I'm just not going to. I just need some strength and energy.
 
Ah man, I'm sorry to hear that. Taking care of your little one is frankly enough work when you have to take care of yourself, although keeping things tidy can be a great way to distract one's mind. Try to keep it on the bright side I guess.

Ensure isn't supposed to replace real food/meals, but the general idea is to take no more than three/day. I strongly suggest getting some fruit juice (like real juice, not that fake sweet bullshit) and some veggie juice. Like real OJ or berry smoothies (with yogurt for protein or something along those lines) and carrot juice or some multigreen blend would be a very very worthwhile addition to your ensure diet :p

Let us know how the Zofran works. IIRC it takes about 45min for the Zofran to kick in. If you are having trouble swallowing you can take it sublingually/under the tongue, but I tend to think it worked better swallowed.
 
Thank you I'll let you know how it works! I know I'm going to have to start slow with food since its been so long. Honestly, I've only been able to get down one or two ensures max. My energy is like zero. I'll make someone go get me some real juice. Thank you for the suggestions. This feels like it's taking forever lol
 
When I see my friend tomorrow, I'll get her to take me. Pray I can sit still through it! At least that will make me actually shower and get dressed. It sucks feeling like death lol
 
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