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Help Opiate via iv caused burning/needle sticks to spread down arm

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Gixxer1k

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New here. I have my personal presence my brother is injecting yellow opiates. Had no problems until recently , soon as he was done pushing in the crease of his elbow his arm starting burning and felt like being poked all over from his elbow down, arm turned really red, and white welps popped up all over his arm. I think the burning didnt last too long maybe a min not exactly sure, arm stayed red for a while and the welp around injection site stayed the longest but was gone the next day. He did use q-tip to filter out of spoon after crushing on counter he always does. After that he started not using a filter and just crushing on a card folding and dumping into 30ga, 100 unit pen then pulling up 50-60cc of hot water and thumping till dissolved and that seemed to be working until today on the same arm, same site (has used this site in between instances) it started itching as he pushed in and white welp formed around site but no burning, redness, or other welps. What caused this. I would prefer he would stop but if he's going to continue I want him to do it the safest way possible. Thank you for reading this any help suggestions much appreciated and is there a better, safer, cleaner way for him to get it broken down and filtered or not filtered. Also is there any danger to not filtering it
 
He is fairly new to doing this, maybe 3 months now. For te most part says he always filtered as I described above so any tips or things hat he may or may not be doing that needs to know would be appreciated
 
At first it sounded like he stuck it in an artery. That'd burn hot and prickle, as the dope heads for the nearest out..pores, sweat. If he's fixing something that is water soluble, don't worry. As long as it's heated to sterile, shouldn't be a problem.

Heating your shots does nothing but damage your body-brutus
 
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Not sure if this is his problem but pills do have a lot of binders and fillers in them and nomatter how well he filtered there will always be some in there. So, yes, there is a fairly large danger whether filtered or not and there's really no way to avoid that danger.

Now, obviously a few times won't kill him (don't just go by me on that, it might, i don't really know what yellow opiate he's using or how his body/tolerance may react), but i would recommend he quits while he still can.

Just my ¢2.
 
Backloading, and it sounds like he hit an artery? Lucky if his arm doesn't fall off. At least filter that shit. Jesus H Christ, we have the internet now, why do people still do this dumb shit?
 
People make mistakes. Don't be a dick. Sounds like an artery-- yellow opiates? Like dilaudid 4mg?
 
Histamine reaction, IMO.

Yeah, he really really really really does need to filter those pills before shooting them, this is utter madness....
 
Histamine release. Whats a yellow opiate? Like above posters said, dont shoot pills. If you ignore that advice (like most of us) use micron and/or wheel filters.
 
8) A lot of people on here shoot pills. The only yellow opiates I can think of that are easy to crush up and shoot are 4mg dilaudid? Right? Dunno... so many of the others are white. Hm. Anyway, chill out guys, your brother should be okay. Check out some harm reduction feeds for tons of tips on shooting up safely. If, like me, he does not have the patience to get micron filters of whatever, make sure he uses clean, new, q tips AND, if you are really worried, filters the drawn solution multiple times with new qtips each time. Educate him about cotton fever, abcesses, how to treat tracks, not shooting in arteries, and ^^histamine release. That's very sweet of you to care, he is lucky to have you.
 
soundz like a couple bunch of idiots, that are harming themselves soo much more than they think. I mean Injecting WHOLE pill. "oh sure just throw it in the pin , add a lil hot water and mixer up!" hahah thats so stupid I cant even comprehend it...You guys need to filter and then filter again. That is only if you Live a nice long lifeor you cold keep doing your thing and die young.
 
Just because you haven't been in a tight spot without tons of clean cottons everywhere in some kind of theoretical hospital clean like world does not mean we are idiots or want to die. YOU sound like an idiot.
 
Sounds like an artery to me. But I'm not exp with any yellow opiate. Or dillaudid shooting. I've watched an old friend hit an artery shooting dope. He had horrible veins and tracks.

Yes u never heat heroin or opiate pills to sterlize. Its a myth/urban legend. Room temp is fine. Even I used to think u had to heat H, burnin' spoons etc...

EDIT: not filtering is dumb. Thart last part of the op story sounds like it could be some kind of infection or something. But hitting an artey sends crazy pain down the arm and hands a lot of times.

Did he bleed out after taking the needle out? This certainly not good. Plz filter pills if they must be IV.
Re Edit: is this person not an experienced shooter? Are they even registering for blood? The needle can be pushed thru by accident too even after registering, or slip out of the vein. Leaving poorly filtered pill matter in your arm. That person needs help/education about needle drug use.
 
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It sounds like you missed part of the shot. If you miss part of a shot you'll get a lump under the skin that goes red, with histaminergic opiates like Morphine the histamine reaction adds to this and makes a big welt that looks something like the rash you get after being stung by nettles. Apply a hot compress to the area and the swelling will go down pretty quick.

As for the burning pins and needles sensation down your arm, that's normal with IV morphine and with higher dosages of other opiates, again it's part of the histamine reaction. To me it's part of why IV Morphine feels so damn good, but to some it's more of an acquired taste or something they don't like.

It sounds like you just need to get your technique down better to avoid misses mainly. Misses can lead to abscesses and other complications. When you feel you've entered a vein, pull back on the plunger to ensure blood enters the syringe - if no blood gets drawn up, you need to try again at hitting a vein. If blood comes up, you can start slowly pushing down on the plunger, but if you notice the needle moving at all, or you feel any resistance when pushing down (or any pain/stinging for that matter) then you've quite likely slipped out of the vein and need to make sure you're in and draw back the plunger again to check. The itching you got when you pushed in says you weren't in a vein at the time.

Do not push down the plunger if no blood is being drawn back as it means you're not in a vein and shooting your drugs under your skin instead - not only is this not really any more effective than other ROAs that wouldn't involve you having to use a needle in the first place but the risk of infection with IM/SC injections and street drugs or pills is very big.

Also not filtering pills is crazy and asking for you to lose an arm, even with a really good wheel/micron filter it's not a good idea to IV pills, and IVing them through cottons even worse, but IVing them without filtering is just going to destroy your veins incredibly quickly, and the possibility of losing the limb you're injecting into is very real. Those pictures you've surely seen of Krokodil? That kind of shit can happen with poor filtration of pills and bad technique too. You need to at least use a cigarette filter/cotton if you aren't willing to get micron/wheel filters, but the latter is pretty much something that should be a given if you're injecting pills with any sort of regularity.
 
Thank you guys for all the replys it would be nice if he'd quit but for now just gotta do what I can to keep him from loosing that arm. So help me out what the heck is a micron/wheel filter and where can I get some cuz ill go pick them up for him if that's the best filter.. He's gone back to filtering with a q tip grabbed straight out the box, used to didnt wash his hands, after that shit he washes his hands before touxhing anything and I'm assuming this ok but he's been putting a few drops of alchol in his spoon and on the counter and wiping it down before crushing and getting it in the spoon. He was using hot/warm water till figured out you could use room temp water, half the time he gets it out of the sink which I don't like, I think he should use a brand new bottled water personally, just seems a little cleaner. I told him about filtering more than once and he thinks he's gonna loose more of his hit, which is fine by me if he doesn't loose his freaking arm. It happened to him in another part of his other arm this morning, this time no burning down the arm just kinda burning and itching is only way he knew to describe it, it looked like he had a huge purple bruise with a white spot in thd middle. bout as round as an orange. It welped up a little but not like a miss and not like last time but it looks almost identical. Within 30min his arm looks almost back to normal, still some snall areas really white and sone purpleish red and a little sore to bend he says. These don't seem like the misses iv seen and yes he pulls back to check for blood pushes a little in checks again and if he's good he pushes through. His problem was he has good veins so it was easy to push out the other side. If he pushes to fast and in area that's seen some use could he blow out his vein or something? Is it possible to be partially in a vien, like get a little blood but some of the pill not make it in the vien cuz he said after he calmed down he was somewhat high like he got some of it. I'm rambling. Besides micron filters and filter more than once any other tips
 
I know that's a lot to read just trying to give as much info as possible so I can get as much help as possible. And a couple of you were right about which yellow opiate he's using,
 
Not sure if anyone's said this yet, but someone said "heat it until sterile." YOU DON'T HEAT PILLS. It causes the binders and fillers to melt into your solution and then you're injecting that garbage along with your goodies!!

DON'T HEAT PILLS.
 
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