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help needed (tonight!) - possible PMA powder? (Melbourne)

lsd303

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Below is a copy of a post I just put up in the pill testing forum - it explains the dilemma I've got at the moment! I thought I'd post it in here, too, with another request - if anyone in the south/south eastern suburbs has a reliable tester (an E2 would be an advantage), could you please be a legend and email me ASAP so I can drop over and test this shit I've got hold of? I'd be happy to part with $5 for the inconvenience
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I'm just in a hurry to find out what this is so I can sort out whether I need to chase after a refund tonight or not..
Anyhow, here's the message from pill testing:
Ok, need some opinions here.. I just got hold of what's supposed to be MDMA powder, from what has been a reliable source in the past, which has been heralded as "the best MDMA I've ever had!"
Here's the problem though - I didn't have a tester with me when I bought it, and unfortunately the only tester I have access to at home is very old and the fluid has turned pale brown. I'd go and grab another one, but it's past 6pm and everywhere's shut
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Anyway, I last used this tester a few weeks ago on a white dove (the fluid was brown at the time, too) and it gave a purple reaction, which indicates to me that even though it's old/dodgy, it still (kinda) works. I tested this "MDMA powder" a few minutes ago - it bubbled for a couple of seconds, but that was it.. no colour change at all (and I watched for at least a minute). The stuff _tastes_ right (ie bitter to start with, then VERY bitter after a few seconds), but has a strong smell which I can't really explain accurately .. a bit like licorice is probably about the closest I can get, which is why I'm now suspicious that it could possibly be PMA.
So.. what do you guys think? Simply a case of a really dodgy tester that's not working right (ie the stuff _could_ be MDMA), or more likely PMA (meaning it's time to chase a refund!) ...? Help ASAP would be muchly appreciated!
thanks..
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Today a young man on acid realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively - there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves.. here's Tom with the weather!
 
I can't help with the tester, cos a friends got it - but I will say that you're doing the right thing here. Just make sure though that if you can't test it you continue to do the right thing and don't take it... find something else more reliable if you must - remember you can test it another day, it's not going to waste!
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Good luck in your quest!
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Yeah, thanks.. there's no way in hell I'm going to take it/give it to anyone else to take until I can get a reliable test result on it. I figure if I use a fresh E1 and it still gives no colour change I'll just take it back to the source and ask for a swap/refund.. if it shows as PMA under an E2 then I'll definitely take it back and warn the dude not to sell _any_ more to anyone else!
Anyway, the request still stands - if someone can help me out with access to a tester (preferably an E2) then it'd be a huge help!
thanks..
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Today a young man on acid realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively - there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves.. here's Tom with the weather!
[This message has been edited by lsd303 (edited 08 September 2001).]
 
i have a fairly new E2 although im all the way up in berowra :P
Sorry dude.
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I said....nice one brova!! :)
 
LSD303 --- take a lot of care at every stage of your testing:
a. If someone you don't know is coming to your house to test substances have the SMALLEST amount possible, if not just the test sample in view. Put all other substances well out of sight, even in another house. This is not to doubt the integrity or good-will of Bluelighters, but merely common sense when you're handling illicit substances around people you don't know.
b. MDMA powder also can smell like licorice. What colour is the powder? Is it white/gray/brown/yellow or some other colour? Did it come in capsules or just loose? A tester may help you with initial identification. See if you can grab a new one today from a smoke shop or similar.
c. If you're going to try some of this powder yourself, TAKE CARE... use extremely small doses to begin with, and take time between top up doses if you are using that strategy. Reduce the risk by waiting a couple of days between test doses. Remember that some substances in powder form have dose ranges well below the usual 100mg range of MDMA. Some powders have dose ranges as low as 5mg and you never know what you've got unless the powder is accompanied by eg. IR spectrum, or H-NMR results.
d. IMHO Avoid combining this powder with other drugs until you are very familiar with its effects.
BigTrancer
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To answer the questions above - the powder is fine, very white, and came 'as is' (ie not in caps). This situation has taken an interesting turn, so here's an update:
I bought new testers today (E1 & E2) - my old tester (E1) was obviously pretty far gone to give no reaction with this stuff _at all_, because the new E1 did give a strong reaction. What happened:
E1 - bubbled, straight to purple, then to black over around 30 seconds
E2 - virtually the same reaction, just a slightly 'richer' purple!
I've already posted in pill testing about this, but I'll ask here too - from what I've written above, it looks to be like this stuff is very potent MD. What do you guys reckon? And also - any idea why there wasn't any 'blue' in the E2 reaction as per the colour chart?
Anyhow.. it definitely _didn't_ give the PMA reaction on E2, and as I said initially, it's come from what has always been a good source, so I have no real reason to suspect anything dodgy. It looks like it's possible for the last dregs in the bottom of an E1 that have been sitting around for months to go off!
[edit: btw, could someone please post a link to whichever thread here that has a comprehensive list of E1/E2 reactions? I saw it once but couldn't be bothered hunting for it again - am currently basing my tests on the colour charts that came with the testers.]
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Today a young man on acid realised that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration... that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively - there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves.. here's Tom with the weather!
[This message has been edited by lsd303 (edited 07 September 2001).]
 
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